Ranger Templates for New Frontiers -in-

Slytale

Loyal Freddie
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It's been quite some time since we've seen that NF is coming to Europe soon...

And in that light - we have to prepare ourselves for that. It's been quite a while now that i've been looking at some templates for Rangers , and came to the conclustion " It's nearly impossible to get all the good stuff " in one template.

So basically you have to make a choice - Sniper , Melee , or Hybrid.

I've seen alot of templates - and well they all sucked. Because people try and do too many things with them... ie. I WANT 26 DEX CAP OMF IT WILL MAKE ME UBER ... or I WANT +200 HITS . or whatever...

Problem being - you CAN'T get all that , because :

1 ) there's just not enough utility in the jewlry / Artis we get .
2 ) Just not enough Imbue points on the armour we craft.
3) You're just stupid and suck at making templates.

I've done my 1st real attempt at doing an archers template specifically aimed at Snipers in NF. I will include RA listings and RR too.

Now before you start telling me how bad it is etc. Take this into consideration.

GSV gives and extra +3% melee resist @ lvl 4 ( afaik) so i included that ontop. The resists and skill u see here have been clipped / changed to reflect their exact capped values. ie. if a resist was overcapped @ 29% and capped @ 26 , i made it 26.

I woulda loved to cap hits @ 240 and get my AF capped @ +50 too , woulda been nice but u can't get it all.

@ RR7

My current spec is:

50bow ,39 pierce , 21 cd , 33 stealth , 16 pf ( no autotrain ) 1pt left

RA listing for NF:

Aug dex 2
Aug con 2
Tough 2
AoM 2
Mastery of Stealth 3
Falcon's Eye 2
IP 2
Purge 2


Config Report INCLUDING AoM2 and GSV

Stats

Str: 80 Int: 0 Hits: 232
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 90 Cha: 0
Qui: 44 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 31 Energy: 31 Crush: 29
Cold: 30 Matter: 30 Thrust: 29 (3)
Heat: 29 Spirit: 27 (5) Slash: 28 (2)

Skills
11 Stealth
11 Recurve Bow
11 Piercing
11 Celtic Dual


Cap Increases
20 Dex
40 Hits
5 Str
7 Quick

Other Bonuses
8 Archery Damage Bonus
3 Style Damage Bonus
4 Melee Damage Bonus
2 Melee Speed Bonus
3 Archery Speed Bonus
11 Archery Range Bonus
20 AF Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Golden Scarab Vest
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 4 Archery Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 4 Archery Range Bonus
Utility: 46.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Piercing - 99 imperfect Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 3 Stealth - 99 rough Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 4: 13 Strength - 99 imperfect Fiery Essence
Utility: 66.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Piercing - 99 flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 2 Celtic Dual - 99 uncut Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 25 Strength - 99 flawless Fiery Essence
Gem 4: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Utility: 65.33

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 7 Cold Resist - 99 imperfect Icy Shielding
Gem 2: 28 Quickness - 99 perfect Airy Essence
Gem 3: 19 Dexterity - 99 faceted Vapor Essence
Gem 4: 7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Utility: 59.33

Hands
Name: Marisha's Sharkskin Gloves
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Energy Resist
Effect 2: 4 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 4 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 6: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 7: 3 Recurve Bow
Effect 8: 3 Archery Range Bonus
Effect 9: 3 Archery Speed Bonus
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 63.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 7 Thrust Resist - 99 imperfect Airy Shielding
Gem 3: 25 Dexterity - 99 flawless Vapor Essence
Gem 4: 19 Constitution - 99 faceted Earthen Essence
Utility: 63.33

Right Hand
Name: Legendary Adze ( Heat-Cold)
Level: 51 Quality: 99
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 28 Constitution
Effect 2: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Utility: 50.67

Left Hand
Name: Crocodile Tooth Dagger
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 27 Strength
Effect 2: 27 Dexterity
Effect 3: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 3 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Utility: 36.00

Ranged
Name: duskwood Astral bow of Dismay
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 6 Recurve Bow
Effect 3: 2 Archery Damage Bonus
Effect 4: 2 Archery Range Bonus
Effect 5: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 40.00

Neck
Name: Sililia's Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 7 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 7 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 7 Body Resist
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 56.00

Cloak
Name: Feathered Wrap
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Thrust Resist
Utility: 70.00

Jewel
Name: Gem of Lost Memories
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Constitution
Effect 2: 24 Hits
Effect 3: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 4 Body Resist
Effect 5: 2 Archery Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 2 Archery Range Bonus
Effect 7: 2 Archery Skill Bonus
Utility: 38.67

Belt
Name: Belt of Lightning
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Matter Resist
Effect 2: 18 Constitution
Effect 3: 48 Hits
Effect 4: 5 All Dual Wield Skill Bonus
Utility: 63.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Tempest
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 6 Body Resist
Effect 4: 5 Stealth
Utility: 57.00

Left Ring
Name: Zahur's Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 60 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 6 Body Resist
Effect 6: 6 Spirit Resist
Utility: 75.00

Right Wrist
Name: Blackened Wrap
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 2: 3 Stealth
Effect 3: 16 Dexterity
Effect 4: 16 Quickness
Effect 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 7 Quickness Cap Increase
Utility: 46.33

Left Wrist
Name: Zahur's Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 60 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 51.00
 

Gesp

Fledgling Freddie
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Slytale said:
I've seen alot of templates - and well they all sucked.
making a good temp in stats doesnt make a temp good either tho. a temp with sililia neck, zahur bracer, zahur ring, ml10 bow, feathered wrap and some other less-rare stuff, building it on a RR7's RA list/skill bonuses/spec, and making up its resists with nerfed AoM (which dont go directly into your magic resists anymore, but calculated secondarily after them) sucks too. 3 of 400 rangers in hib could barely reach this i think.

honestly, i dont see a point in this thread except showing off, like u going to dl and tell the rangers who didnt even ask (maybe didnt even realize yet) about your so-called only-one-in-exc ml10 bow sometimes :m00:

gl in NF.

edit: just realized, qui is not capped either, not so nice for a sniper temp i'd say.
 

Slytale

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Gesp said:
making a good temp in stats doesnt make a temp good either tho. a temp with sililia neck, zahur bracer, zahur ring, ml10 bow, feathered wrap and some other less-rare stuff, building it on a RR7's RA list/skill bonuses/spec, and making up its resists with nerfed AoM (which dont go directly into your magic resists anymore, but calculated secondarily after them) sucks too. 3 of 400 rangers in hib could barely reach this i think.

honestly, i dont see a point in this thread except showing off, like u going to dl and tell the rangers who didnt even ask (maybe didnt even realize yet) about your so-called only-one-in-exc ml10 bow sometimes :m00:

gl in NF.

edit: just realized, qui is not capped either, not so nice for a sniper temp i'd say.


hmm i don't see what your reply has to to do with me asking for help on my template. Also - AoM in NF works properly again ( but i could be wrong ).

As for the ml10 bow - yes it IS the only one still - and YES it's uber and people CONSTANTLY ask me to show / tell them stats , and YES i have been saving alot of cash to try and make this template, so please move along.
as for CAPPING all - i mentioned, you can't cap everything.

Aug quick can fix that 253 buffed quick draw cap - as well i don't have archery speed capped. But i am glad you're still looking at it, and giving feedback. Keep it coming.
 

Gesp

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Slytale said:
hmm i don't see what your reply has to to do with me asking for help on my template.
just read it again -the whole post- to be sure and fair, but it still seems like a teacher-ish template advice to all the rangers who look for one, instead of asking for help. and my reply was -and still is- based on that.
 

Draylor

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Slytale said:
Also - AoM in NF works properly again ( but i could be wrong ).
Works same way it does now - ie roughly half as effective as the %ages shown suggest.
 

Vodkafairy

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i don't think we'll ever share the same opinion on a template tdaer, you always want to cap resists and i always want max stats :p

it's a pretty solid template though, lots of hard/impossible items to get for not tooo much return tho :x
 

Slytale

Loyal Freddie
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VF yep...

I found that resists work rather strange in DaoC. Even missing 2% off a vulnerable resist could cause an attacker to do capped damage on u vs. having capped resist and him doing the % value of the resist.

AoM in NF:

Ok so that would mean - instead of 5% resist added ontop , i would have 5% of the actual resist ?

ie. Resists with aom 2 ( as per ur description )

Body: 27 Energy: 27 Crush: 29
Cold: 27 Matter: 25 Thrust: 29 (3)
Heat: 25 Spirit: 23 (5) Slash: 28 (2)

correct me here plz if it's wrong

26% actual resist + aom 2 = 26% +1.3% = 27.3% ?
 

Gesp

Fledgling Freddie
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say u'r gonna get hit for 125 and u have %20 resist, plus AoM 2.

%20 over 125 = down to 100 dmg
then %6 over 100 = down to 94 dmg.

before that nerf, it was directly calculated like u have %26 resist, so u would be hit for 92,5 dmg.
 

Spamb0t

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loln00b 20dex cap only looloolol!! n00b4ever!
;-D

just screw cd :p
 

Slytale

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Spamb0t said:
loln00b 20dex cap only looloolol!! n00b4ever!
;-D

just screw cd :p


also just realized :~ with bow out - i only hit 15 dex cap .

already doing v2.0 of this temp that will use all 20 dex of the cap heh :p

stay tuned
 

Ziz

Fledgling Freddie
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AoM does not directly add to ur resists
from what i havegatherd it works like lets say u take 100 damage then ur resists @ 26 kick in and then ur AoM takes damage form the damage that was left after ur resists took its share off
 

censi

Can't get enough of FH
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its sweet template.

gesp fuck off with your constant flaming of anything and everything, some of us are interested in templates and its nice when people who know how to build good ones put them out their for constructive critism.

always interested to hear about ranger templates (as are people who play rangers)

I think that this could be improved minimally ill have a crack if I get time.

my suggestion would be to maybe consider swapping blackend wrap with dex based ceremonial. Would also look at swapping out ring of tempest for another higher imbue ring. Dont know if these would fit in though.

Failing that you should ditch the Astral bow for a LW bow and give the astral one to censi for safe keeping.
 

Sporeungen

Fledgling Freddie
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Too Many Rare Items Feks. Feathered Wrap Zahur ring all that items is over 50p
 

Gesp

Fledgling Freddie
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i didnt flame, just told what i thought, a temp worth 150p'ish and still not so uber, and with a ml10 item, just a showoff.

but u should stop flaming on anything u dont like instead tbh.
 

Aloca

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Gesp said:
i didnt flame, just told what i thought, a temp worth 150p'ish and still not so uber, and with a ml10 item, just a showoff.

but u should stop flaming on anything u dont like instead tbh.
Loads of people have templates worth over 150-200p
My next template have a few rare items also maybe not as many as sly's tho.
Guard of Valor
Maddening Scalars
Sililia's Necklace
Plaited Hair of Malamis
Zahur's Ring
Zahur's Bracer.

Just becouse you are Broke and to lazy to farm stuff doesnt mean others also is it.
 

Boni

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Nice to see templates whatever the items. My noob wanjer wont get his mits on most of these (or maybe he will see below), but its good to see what goes in and what you guys are aiming for.

Most of these items are available, im sure there are more like 50-100 players with both FW and zahurs ring and they go nicely in ANY template, hell I got them on my eld so I could always lend them to my alt for a while...

I really dont see the point of flaming people over making decent templates. Should they post some crap template with quest items and maybe a bit of old hib epic armour, maybe get a gemlicker claw in there, nice proc on them you know and drop off greencon mobs!!!1
 

Nausilus^^

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Looks to become a pretty good template to me if you fix the dex cap with bow out thing. I wonder though, why you count in the resists from GSV, and don't cap melee resists without the GSV aura. The 3% resist aura would be a nice bonus on top of the 26% melee resists making it 29% resists + racial resists. But I know it can be hard to cap the things you want.. I quit trying to make my own template due to inadequacy of making it. I don't have time to farm for the insanely/somewhat rare items, nor xp'ing hours and hours on scarabs and sharks. Maybe I'll try in NF though, or catacombs when there are even more new items and propably more new things to cap.
 

Avindor

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Good template with nice stats, skills and resists. Downside are of course the rare items but if you got them already then gratz :)

Btw, in NF legendary adzes will have Dex instead of Con. So if you can make use of that better than the con version.... :)
 

Spamb0t

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with croc tooth dagger and lw (didnt really add that dex/con stat on the lw as it doesnt really matter, already above cap before that)
2 gimped resists but as u said cant get it all ;-D
and these resists r all before gsv/aom/whatever cheats

----MELEE----

Config Report

Stats
Str: 70 Int: 0 Hits: 208
Con: 77 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 129 Cha: 0
Qui: 41 Emp: 0

Resists
Body: 29 Energy: 13 Crush: 26
Cold: 29 Matter: 13 Thrust: 26
Heat: 29 Spirit: 27 Slash: 26

Skills
11 Stealth
8 Recurve Bow
11 Piercing
10 Celtic Dual

Cap Increases
20 Dex

Other Bonuses
4 Archery Damage Bonus
3 Style Damage Bonus
4 Melee Damage Bonus
2 Melee Speed Bonus
7 Archery Speed Bonus
7 Archery Range Bonus
20 AF Bonus


----BOW----

Config Report

Stats
Str: 43 Int: 0 Hits: 208
Con: 77 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 102 Cha: 0
Qui: 41 Emp: 0

Resists
Body: 29 Energy: 13 Crush: 26
Cold: 21 Matter: 13 Thrust: 26
Heat: 21 Spirit: 27 Slash: 26

Skills
10 Celtic Dual
11 Stealth
11 Piercing
11 Recurve Bow

Cap Increases
26 Dex
5 Qui

Other Bonuses
9 Archery Speed Bonus
7 Archery Damage Bonus
11 Archery Range Bonus
5 Fatigue
10 AF Bonus
 

Stormf

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guess its my due my luck we get it after all... someone once "flamed" me for using it in my NF template
 

Spamb0t

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oooooorrrrr hmmm maybe this one.. golden spear + croc tooth dagger!


----BOW----

Config Report

Stats
Str: 40 Int: 0 Hits: 224
Con: 74 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 103 Cha: 0
Qui: 44 Emp: 0

Resists
Body: 28 Energy: 25 Crush: 20
Cold: 22 Matter: 19 Thrust: 20
Heat: 25 Spirit: 16 Slash: 18

Skills
10 Celtic Dual
11 Stealth
3 Blades
11 Piercing
11 Recurve Bow

Cap Increases
26 Dex
5 Qui

Other Bonuses
7 Archery Damage Bonus
5 Fatigue
5 Melee Speed Bonus
9 Archery Speed Bonus
11 Archery Range Bonus
10 AF Bonus


----MELEE----

Config Report

Stats
Str: 79 Int: 0 Hits: 224
Con: 74 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 142 Cha: 0
Qui: 44 Emp: 0

Resists
Body: 28 Energy: 25 Crush: 27
Cold: 22 Matter: 19 Thrust: 27
Heat: 25 Spirit: 16 Slash: 25

Skills
3 Blades
11 Stealth
8 Recurve Bow
11 Piercing
10 Celtic Dual

Cap Increases
20 Dex

Other Bonuses
4 Archery Damage Bonus
7 Style Damage Bonus
4 Melee Damage Bonus
11 Melee Speed Bonus
7 Archery Speed Bonus
7 Archery Range Bonus
10 AF Bonus
 

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