Ranger idea

[Ekg]

I am currently making a ranger for bg1 and i am going to spec pure melee.

It must be good with a duel wielder that has selfbuffs and stealth?

Anyone that has done one of these ? and if you have please tell me what you though of it...

 

[Fang]

If you want a dual wielding Melee stealther then make a NS imo.

 

[Ekg]

I have a ns, but i whanted a celt ns and got the idea to make a melee celt ranger... is this the worst idea ever or ?

 

[Leathas]

using ranger to melee is..<cough>,say,"useless",you'll get enough damage to be killed in seconds,you cant parry,you dont have shield and pathfinding buffs are nothing but "We'll give you guys some toys so you can play until next nerf" for a ranger.

Roll a hero,BM or NS for melee dueling imo

 

[rhemis]

i have to agree i rolled a /lvl 20 Ranger and lvl'd him to 24 to try out that spec and it sucked!! you'd think a dual weild would be ok but it isnt!! then i rolled MAX BOW and Peirce and Stealth Luri and he was unstaoppable 1 shotting casters easily, i dont think u need Pathfinding at all TBH IMO, at lot of people harp on about how Path really makes your ranger, but it dont, those buffs are shit tbh anyway. if you rolled a Lurikeen then your BOW damage which is most important is going to be excellent anyway, i decided to skip Pathfinding and go for full bow, then peirce rest into stealth and i can solo yellows no probs, so asfar as im conderned just stick to the normal specs. but definatley avoid CD unless you go Celt then maybe they do alright but not on a luri anyway.
Most go

44 Bow
Then Peirce
Then Path
Then Stealth
Rest CD usually 10

but im going
50 Bow possibly 44 Bow for more stealth not sure yet
Then Pierce
Then Stealth
Rest CD for dmg limiter
NO Path

 

[Leathas]

No path?eek!you got a buffbot or something like that?!

 

[Demolay]

Of course when u get some RA's u get pretty handy (sorry for the pun) <looks at RR10 Ozrique>

 

[chrstffr]

Forget stealth and make a bm

 

[rhemis]

nope no buffbot, i work my ranger on the same spec as my Scout max bow wep then stealth and i can solo yellows fine, although it does help to have a crafter for top notch bows and free 75s Aroows!! rawr!! but yes i have no buffbot i despise buffbots, people have come to depend on bb's to lvl and thats wrong!!
People stop me quite a bit when they see my out killing mobs and ask my spec, but at 46 ive solo'd all but the first 10 lvl's and it hasnt changed i can still do yellows with my Luri sniper!! i usually only need bout 4-5 swings to finish the job with my piercer!! give it a go Pathfinding is weak you dont need it!!

 

[Marwolaeth]

As a huge promoter for the pathfinding spec I can honestly say that yeah I can see where the idea for a melee specced BG1 ranger comes from....only problem is that to make it viable you need High path (for dmg add....otherwise just get an NS or BM), and of course high pierce to compliment your dmg add, and also of course some stealth if you really want to be a stealther, cause otherwise you find every mage and his pet spotting you from half a mile away and nuking you whilst your trying to walk towards them stealthed. Hmmm, and lets face it, the most beautiful thought of a melee specced ranger IS the extra dmg from your dmg add on BOTH your weapons so surely as much into CD as possible so you can really tear them apart...........


............Only problem with all this is that with a Ranger that gains 2xlvl spec points a lvl would have to have a good spec in at least 3 (4 with stealth) spec lines......After lvl 40 I don't know how viable an option a melee ranger would be but I honestly think that at lvl 24 you need to settle for mediocre stats in too many spec lines to make it as good as it at first sounds.

-Mari, 41 Pathfinding and aiming for 46 despite what anyone says

 

[Arrows]

i took pathfinding to 46
pierce to 34
cd to 10
stealth to 28
and bow to 39 i think

at 50 i chained lodes at bottom of cm using blunt arrows
all that stopped me was end ... then i leveld my bard and his end song 2 mean i never had to stop and rarely had to heal
i think PF is very important for a ranger the damage add is less likely to be affected by resists and it it works on bow and melle damage and imo it was allways worth having it plus the dex/quick buff brings bow pull time down and damage down as well.
way i saw it spec path and it benefits both melee and bow and armour and strngh (wep skill/damage) and emergency run.
would be interesting to see a full pf rest pierce/cd ranger versus a Full pierce rest cd then path ranger

 

[spankya]

Originally posted by rhemis

Most go

44 Bow
Then Peirce
Then Path
Then Stealth
Rest CD usually 10

but im going
50 Bow possibly 44 Bow for more stealth not sure yet
Then Pierce
Then Stealth
Rest CD for dmg limiter
NO Path

Why 44 bow? You get nothing at 44.... go for 45 or 40

 

[Marwolaeth]

Originally posted by rhemis
nope no buffbot, i work my ranger on the same spec as my Scout max bow wep then stealth and i can solo yellows fine, although it does help to have a crafter for top notch bows and free 75s Aroows!! rawr!! but yes i have no buffbot i despise buffbots, people have come to depend on bb's to lvl and thats wrong!!
People stop me quite a bit when they see my out killing mobs and ask my spec, but at 46 ive solo'd all but the first 10 lvl's and it hasnt changed i can still do yellows with my Luri sniper!! i usually only need bout 4-5 swings to finish the job with my piercer!! give it a go Pathfinding is weak you dont need it!!

Is now a good time to say that I am about 18 pierce, 33 +6 bow and 41 path.....I can actually solo oranges....yellows normally don't get anywhere near me and if they do it's only for a couple of swing, oranges do get through to me about 9/10 but about 3-5 swings of taunt stylee with my dmg add is more than enough to see them off

 

[Ravenbourne]

When i leveled i only exped off oranges, choose the correct arrow for your target and you can take them down easy, mellee on a ranger is down to pure luck that your openent is rubbish, in my very short experiance in "real" rvr i cant compete hand to hand. When my buff bot is high enough, hes only 28 at the mo, things may be different. Rangers arent designed for hand to hand, , i have hit a healer (mid) for about 33% of there HP and alb mages can be taken down to about 20% hp with a well timed and lucky crit shot.

Current spec at 50,

bow 48, stealth 36, pf 9, blades 39, cd 2x (cant remember exact amount)

 

[Demolay]

50 bow bubble bursting 100% Rapid Fire intterupter if you are thinking of grouping IMO volley etc shoot multiple mages healers etc works a treat - ask Ozzie for his spec (and yes he was group ranger) he seemed to have it sorted - 1st RR10 ranger (anywhere?)

 

[Atomic Rammer]

I had exactly what the first poster wanted a melee ranger for bg1. I went full melee coz I was autotraining bow. pierce 24 path 19 rest was bit of cd and a small ammount of stealth. wasnt supposed to be a bg spec or anything just making my way to the final spec in a fairly random way hehe.

Found that it was quite good for me really I once took down a red con sb but I was quick and hit him out of stealth so he didnt get a crit on me. Could take out most stealthers once i got to 24 even if i got critted. Got my ass handed to me by friars tho. Shite stealth was still handy for detecting stealthers by spamming the stealth button and yelling warnings.

 

[Ekg]

Just a quick question, if i exped an ranger from 0 to 50 could i still auto train bow?

 

[chrstffr]

yes

 

[censi]

archers are still pretty weak tbh.

my main gripe with archers is.

1) Dominated by assasins (sh still suxs)
2) If your target dont wanna die all he has to do is run. (mage only class this may not apply to but they can QC +whatever ((nearsight mezz stun etc))
3) Crit shots rarely even useable.
4) Cost of IP purge and FA is a fooking killer.
5) most of the RA's sux. (widespread problem amoung all classes this though, theres some real shit RA's out there)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bow is pretty much fixed now, GJ mythic

But i wish archers could be more effective in melee. They really mellee feebly. I think the addition of parry to the ranger line could be justified. Specially as speccing it highly would severly hamper the other lines which are already tighly balanced points wise.
BM's would argue differently. but i dont think it would overpower the class. Just make them more viable in grps and when trying to fend off an assasin that PA's you.

 

[Ravenbourne]

imo mythic could be a little more imaginative with some spec lines, maybe have a small shield spec line with baby shield skills or something, for example why cant a ranger spec blunt? in reality ( i know that the game is nothing like reality) a bloke could pick up and hold any weapon he likes and use it and with enough practise become adept at it.

 

[vintervargen]

critshot should be looked over. ok, you need patience, timing and the ability to be on the right spot to use it. but, pbt/evade/block/miss etc, it has no real use then shooting resting enemies that are near their TK or summat.