radar detection in NF

scorge

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Requiel,

Does the radar detection in 1.70 (new Frontiers) work with the european version of DAOC? or is the code so differant that irt wont work?
 

Firebirth

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Id rather he didnt answer this and we wouldnt know, until (hopefully the first wave of bans come through :twak: )

and are you worried scorge
 

scorge

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of course i am worried :) it might not work on euro servers and will have to put up with radar users, will be interesting to se how many people whine about getting banned, and how many goa ban if they do...
 

Aloca

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Not that im happy over this but how likely do you think Goa will get the absolute latest version of the anti radar program? Or that they get the updates on it at same time as Mythic. If not it probably doesnt work :(
 

Amaru-Synergy

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Aloca said:
Not that im happy over this but how likely do you think Goa will get the absolute latest version of the anti radar program? Or that they get the updates on it at same time as Mythic. If not it probably doesnt work :(

I bet its a bloody good deterrant though, imagine all the radar users, if they dont know if GOA has it installed or not, would they still use it.... maybe GOA should announce what they intend to do to people who use it, ie ban and not 24hr slap on the wrist, or name and shame a bunch of high realm ranks to prove they are taking radar seriously !!

Roll on NF
 

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Imo they should stick a list on camelot-europe site of every single person they catch.
 

Aloca

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Teh best way to catch radar users if the anti radar is working is to wait a week before banning this will catch more people.
This tho depends totaly how they want the result. if they want to ban all radar users they shouldnt say anything and silently ban people, if they want those that used radar to stop using it and continue paying they announce it is working with great results and loads of ban's even if this wasnt the case.
 

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A friend saying radar is still in use on US servers, is there any truth in this?
 

Xandax

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They should say that it dosen't work and then bust as many as possible :D
And yes - name and shame please.
Public humilliation would be a nice weapon against cheaters.
 

Ilienwyn

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Well, name and shame wouldn't be that useful with characters that changed hands a few times. I don't know how GOA will handle it, it's their responsibility, but I want radar not used any more in game and if it will take some bans to be so then ban freely!! :p
 

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Amagine all the bards sucking more then ever, blaming it on their XXmbit connections :), that is if the detection works.
 

Gordonax

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Jaem- said:
A friend saying radar is still in use on US servers, is there any truth in this?

Yes. It's a constant race. The maker of The Paid For Radar Program updates his stuff, then Mythic updates theirs, catches a load of cheats, and the guy updates again. But what that means is that people ARE being caught, over and over again. Which is nice.
 

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Gordonax said:
Yes. It's a constant race. The maker of The Paid For Radar Program updates his stuff, then Mythic updates theirs, catches a load of cheats, and the guy updates again. But what that means is that people ARE being caught, over and over again. Which is nice.



So in theory then they will never catch the radar users on the euro servers, or will only catch those with an outdated radar. Since we are a few months behind the USA, the Cheaters will have the latest radar version which will not be detected by 1.71 etc.

It looks to me then that only global updates will be effective against the latest version of radar progs.

We might as well accept folks, that radar users on Euro servers are here to stay. The Radar detection in 1.70 will not work with those players with an updated radar program, or it will be less effective as in the USA.

Looks like now you are going to need a BB and a radar to compete.... and that just sucks %^&*

:puke:
 

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or goa might be getting the newest anti radar proggies or the newer radars wont even be compatibel with the Eu versions...

goa know's we want ppl at the stake and im pretty sure they will give us some.
 

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Stop whining before you know any facts. Knowing Requiel, I'm sure we will see the heads of radar users start rolling soon (figuratively speaking, of course! :cool: ).
 

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scorge said:
So in theory then they will never catch the radar users on the euro servers, or will only catch those with an outdated radar. Since we are a few months behind the USA, the Cheaters will have the latest radar version which will not be detected by 1.71 etc.

It looks to me then that only global updates will be effective against the latest version of radar progs.

We might as well accept folks, that radar users on Euro servers are here to stay. The Radar detection in 1.70 will not work with those players with an updated radar program, or it will be less effective as in the USA.

Looks like now you are going to need a BB and a radar to compete.... and that just sucks %^&*

:puke:


not necessarily is they change even a small thing in the client server connection the radar program will only work on on version of daoc so the newer "undetectble" versions of radar wouldnt work on the older versions.
And if the detection rules are seperate from the rest of the game then all versions of the radars could be detected aswell.
 

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Parade said:
Amagine all the bards sucking more then ever, blaming it on their XXmbit connections :), that is if the detection works.

wtf you on about, just because your a bard doesnt mean you use radar rofl
 

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Parade said:
Amagine all the bards sucking more then ever, blaming it on their XXmbit connections :), that is if the detection works.
You sir, are an idiot.
 

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sibanac said:
not necessarily is they change even a small thing in the client server connection the radar program will only work on on version of daoc so the newer "undetectble" versions of radar wouldnt work on the older versions.
And if the detection rules are seperate from the rest of the game then all versions of the radars could be detected aswell.
Sorry to say but the radar programs is compatilbe with EU and the safety features is overall, they just block all ways that goa/mythic can possible find radars, when mythic catch more radar users they rethink and find 1 more hole.
 

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imo they should add a clause to the DAOC contact - anyone caught being a radar hoe should get a hefty fine (eg 6 months to a years subscription fee).

That should stop recurring users, once they get fined once they wont be so fast to cheat again, and it will bring in more money for GOA.
 

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I don't think that would be legal, but it prolly would be legal to add a clause that you have to pay a deposit in order to log in. And after a subscription period has ended, you can at will get your deposit back. And if you are caught breaking the coc or eula, then you will not get your deposit back, and you will have to pay a new deposit to start playing again. Doubt many radar users can afford to get caught over and over again:-P
 

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That's not a very good business plan Leel =P

I'm sure GOA will have the radar detection... and I'm sure people will get caught.
 

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I dont think its good policy for GOA to spill any beans on this issue, what would make me laugh is if they used the anti radar on Gorre and caught a bunch of plebs using it on the test server, how sad would that be.

Hopefully the anti cheat is a standalone, and updatable without having to patch the game, or minor patch at least.

Name and shame, oh yes, its about time its was used so other tarts claiming "XXX is soooo l33t" suddenly get brought down to earth when their hacking heros get caught.
 

scorge

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should Ban the accounts caught radaring, or Reset to R1L1 and make them run round the frontiers naked going MOO MOO!
 

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scorge said:
should Ban the accounts caught radaring, or Reset to R1L1 and make them run round the frontiers naked going MOO MOO!


:clap: :clap: :clap:
 

jokke

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scorge said:
should Ban the accounts caught radaring, or Reset to R1L1 and make them run round the frontiers naked going MOO MOO!

Aye, reset to R1L1, also remove the same amount of points form the guild (not that this matter since the guild points are rolled back to the early stages of may every 3 week)
 

Teh FnoRd

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jokke said:
Aye, reset to R1L1, also remove the same amount of points form the guild (not that this matter since the guild points are rolled back to the early stages of may every 3 week)
Why should an unsuspecting Guild have to suffer because of some reatard usinig radar?
We don't want any radar users in our guild, and I would imidiatly kick anyone if I knew they had radar, but it's impossible to know when you give an invite. Well unless GoA names and shames. :flame:
 

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