Question about therg´s

[VR]Fuji

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I wanna know if its needed to get +11 wind in template as a 45 wind specced thergist? Dmg wise etc, will i loose lots of dmg if not capping wind or will i not loose any dmg aslong as i keep it at 51 wind etc etc, no idea how this works so please help me :)
 

eggy

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[VR]Fuji said:
I wanna know if its needed to get +11 wind in template as a 45 wind specced thergist? Dmg wise etc, will i loose lots of dmg if not capping wind or will i not loose any dmg aslong as i keep it at 51 wind etc etc, no idea how this works so please help me :)
You'll get +0.5% damage per + wind, iirc.
 

Lireihuan

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dmg output (45 specc air nuke) =
[ 209* (0.845 + (spec-50)/100 + int/209)*(1+relic bonus) ]*(1+mom+toa)
spec = specialised lvl + rr bonus+item bonus
result between [] will be capped at 209*3=627
proof if u can reach the nuke cap with 1 enemy relic
say u have maxed +50 specc, +11 from item, +11 from realm rank (rr12) , total specc lvl = 50+11+11=72
209*(0.845+(72-50)/100+int/209)*1.1>=627
..... int >=347.4
so as long as u don't have 347 int,no matter if u put how much + wind in ur template u won't reach nuke cap.

for example you have 45 air specialised, rr6, 300 int after buff,mom3, 9% toa bonus
with +0 wind in formula the result in [] will be
209*(0.845+(50-50)/100+300/209)*(1+10%)
=524
consider mom3(7%) and toa bonus(9%) , final dmg will be 524x(1+16%)=608

with +11 wind in formulat the result in [] will be
209*(0.845+(61-50)/100+300/209)*(1+10%)
=549.5
consider mom3(7%) and toa bonus(9%) , final dmg will be 549.5x(1+16%)=637.5
to sum up, without considering the extreme case (347+int,72 wind skill)
Each wind skill increase from template while u calculated with 45lvl specc nuke with 1 enemy relic, mom3, 9%toa bonus will increase 209*0.01*1.1*1.16=2.66 dmg.
 

[VR]Fuji

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i´ll stick to the template i made, have to lower constitution or hits or some resist to get +wind and dont wanna do that :D
 

Duzic

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Lireihuan said:
dmg output (45 specc air nuke) =
[ 209* (0.845 + (spec-50)/100 + int/209)*(1+relic bonus) ]*(1+mom+toa)
spec = specialised lvl + rr bonus+item bonus
result between [] will be capped at 209*3=627
proof if u can reach the nuke cap with 1 enemy relic
say u have maxed +50 specc, +11 from item, +11 from realm rank (rr12) , total specc lvl = 50+11+11=72
209*(0.845+(72-50)/100+int/209)*1.1>=627
..... int >=347.4
so as long as u don't have 347 int,no matter if u put how much + wind in ur template u won't reach nuke cap.

for example you have 45 air specialised, rr6, 300 int after buff,mom3, 9% toa bonus
with +0 wind in formula the result in [] will be
209*(0.845+(50-50)/100+300/209)*(1+10%)
=524
consider mom3(7%) and toa bonus(9%) , final dmg will be 524x(1+16%)=608

with +11 wind in formulat the result in [] will be
209*(0.845+(61-50)/100+300/209)*(1+10%)
=549.5
consider mom3(7%) and toa bonus(9%) , final dmg will be 549.5x(1+16%)=637.5
to sum up, without considering the extreme case (347+int,72 wind skill)
Each wind skill increase from template while u calculated with 45lvl specc nuke with 1 enemy relic, mom3, 9%toa bonus will increase 209*0.01*1.1*1.16=2.66 dmg.
lire u know 2 much :p
 

Vodkafairy

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no such thing as knowing too much.. its a good post

+11 wind will raise your dmg by quite a bit, should cap it.. its a must
 

Dafft

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Lireihuan said:
dmg output (45 specc air nuke) =
[ 209* (0.845 + (spec-50)/100 + int/209)*(1+relic bonus) ]*(1+mom+toa)
spec = specialised lvl + rr bonus+item bonus
result between [] will be capped at 209*3=627
proof if u can reach the nuke cap with 1 enemy relic
say u have maxed +50 specc, +11 from item, +11 from realm rank (rr12) , total specc lvl = 50+11+11=72
209*(0.845+(72-50)/100+int/209)*1.1>=627
..... int >=347.4
so as long as u don't have 347 int,no matter if u put how much + wind in ur template u won't reach nuke cap.

for example you have 45 air specialised, rr6, 300 int after buff,mom3, 9% toa bonus
with +0 wind in formula the result in [] will be
209*(0.845+(50-50)/100+300/209)*(1+10%)
=524
consider mom3(7%) and toa bonus(9%) , final dmg will be 524x(1+16%)=608

with +11 wind in formulat the result in [] will be
209*(0.845+(61-50)/100+300/209)*(1+10%)
=549.5
consider mom3(7%) and toa bonus(9%) , final dmg will be 549.5x(1+16%)=637.5
to sum up, without considering the extreme case (347+int,72 wind skill)
Each wind skill increase from template while u calculated with 45lvl specc nuke with 1 enemy relic, mom3, 9%toa bonus will increase 209*0.01*1.1*1.16=2.66 dmg.
WTF!!!! :eek7: looks greek to me - How much can I buy with 2 pence & a tiddlewink top?
 

Beltorak

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Having it all in equations makes it alot easier to work with. Very nice post :fluffle: .Wish there was a table u could download with everything.
 

[VR]Fuji

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Vodkafairy said:
no such thing as knowing too much.. its a good post

+11 wind will raise your dmg by quite a bit, should cap it.. its a must
yesh but then i have to redo my template prolly :D and im to lasy for that :)

got everything capped except + wind in it pretty much only +3 wind from tartaros.
 

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Lireihuan said:
dmg output (45 specc air nuke) =
[ 209* (0.845 + (spec-50)/100 + int/209)*(1+relic bonus) ]*(1+mom+toa)
spec = specialised lvl + rr bonus+item bonus
result between [] will be capped at 209*3=627
proof if u can reach the nuke cap with 1 enemy relic
say u have maxed +50 specc, +11 from item, +11 from realm rank (rr12) , total specc lvl = 50+11+11=72
209*(0.845+(72-50)/100+int/209)*1.1>=627
..... int >=347.4
so as long as u don't have 347 int,no matter if u put how much + wind in ur template u won't reach nuke cap.

for example you have 45 air specialised, rr6, 300 int after buff,mom3, 9% toa bonus
with +0 wind in formula the result in [] will be
209*(0.845+(50-50)/100+300/209)*(1+10%)
=524
consider mom3(7%) and toa bonus(9%) , final dmg will be 524x(1+16%)=608

with +11 wind in formulat the result in [] will be
209*(0.845+(61-50)/100+300/209)*(1+10%)
=549.5
consider mom3(7%) and toa bonus(9%) , final dmg will be 549.5x(1+16%)=637.5
to sum up, without considering the extreme case (347+int,72 wind skill)
Each wind skill increase from template while u calculated with 45lvl specc nuke with 1 enemy relic, mom3, 9%toa bonus will increase 209*0.01*1.1*1.16=2.66 dmg.

Holy shizzz And i tought i could almost understand math since do 5 advanced types at uni lol i agree with dafft greek but UBER POST MAKES me spam a look at my template tx lots from me theus gimped azz too :))
Dorinica
 

Lireihuan

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[VR]Fuji said:
yesh but then i have to redo my template prolly :D and im to lasy for that :)

got everything capped except + wind in it pretty much only +3 wind from tartaros.
my template only has +3 from tartaros gift too, compare to 29-30 dmg, i really prefer jacina's sash and resist.
 

Matt

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I really prefer Lireihuan having Jacina's Sash and better resists as well.

Btw i don't think i have complimented you yet on your Chopper avatar, how cute is that :)
 

[VR]Fuji

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Lireihuan said:
my template only has +3 from tartaros gift too, compare to 29-30 dmg, i really prefer jacina's sash and resist.
indeed :) made the temp and it ended up being 75 con, 101 dex, 101 int, 200 hits, 9 casting, 9 range, 9 dmg, 25 power pool, all resists capped and 3 wind so that should be good enough imo :)
 

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Jeezz, Fuji you lost me now. 1st you quit daoc, then I keep getting killed by you in RvR, now you play alb??? :p
Or was that Korgon that quit?? ;)
 

[VR]Fuji

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Baldrian said:
Jeezz, Fuji you lost me now. 1st you quit daoc, then I keep getting killed by you in RvR, now you play alb??? :p
Or was that Korgon that quit?? ;)
yes :) that was korgon that quit.
 

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