Question about routers.

[~Mobius~]

Hey, I was wondering ....

(Try and imagine this)

I've got my cable box downstairs, this pc is up one floor and my new pc and X-Box are in my roof.

I guess its best to place my router near the pc closest to my Broadband box since it means the wires will be roughly the same size.

So what I'm asking will I get a wire with my router to connect it to my Broadband box, or do I need to buy 4 wires? One for router to pc 1 / router to pc 2 / router to X-Box / router to Broadband box or do you get that wire with your router?

Appreciate a response asap as I'm going out to buy one soon.
Cheers.

 

[Sibanac]

Cable lenght doesnt matter much, unless you live in a mansion.

I would put the router where it is most convient to get all the cables together
(so probebly near your new pc and xbox, that way you have 2 short cables and 2 longer ones)

Most routers come with 1 cable of about 6 or 9 ft (2 or 3 meters)
So yes you will have to buy more cables

 

[~Mobius~]

Would the cable connecting my router to the Broadband box be the same sort of cable as the others?

Here is a crappy diagram of the placement of my stuff....
Read it from the bottom as if you've entered my house and then are walking upstairs.

roof bit

Pc2 X-box

STAIRS

upstairs

Pc1 (Cable Modem near it - see picture further down)

STAIRS

downstairs

My internet box thingy

---------------------------------------------


So I guess I need 4 cables, if I put the router near pc1 then I could get 4 even length wires I think, although I'm not sure.

 

[Sibanac]

yes looks like the optimum setup

and yeah its the same cable

 

[~Mobius~]

Ok thanks alot. 4 cables + router + monitor + headset + Planetside = Expensive day.

 

[~Mobius~]

Grr I had it all sorted now my brother has confused me....

Is it possible to connect the router to my cable modem near pc1 rather than the broadband box that is stuck into my wall downstairs?
Or is the modem pretty obselete now?

 

[Xavier]

Unless you have one of those new spinky NTL/BY boxes with an ethernet port in the rear, your cable modem is still going to plug into your router.

As to the cabling, I've had a few routers over the last year or three and all came with a length of wire to connect modem to router.

Xav

 

[~Mobius~]

Ok this is where I get a bit confused....
I have this near pc1

And also downstairs I have a thing in my wall that says Telewest on it, and a wire coming out of it going up to the thing in that picture.

So my router has 4 wires coming out of it, 2 to my 2 computers, 1 to my x-box and the other, does it go to the thing in the picture or to the box downstairs?

 

[Will]

Thing in the picture.

 

[Sibanac]

picture thingy
the box downstairs should be your splitter filter.
the picture thingy is the actualy cable modem

 

[Krazeh]

Unless your router has a built in cable modem u'll have to plug it into the cable modem you already have and not the wall box

 

[GDW]

Go wireless ffs !!!

/edit however I have a redundant home networking kit (unused)which includes 50m cable, 4 little network junction boxes, four crossover cables , tools to strip and add connectors to the main cable, which I will sell to you if you PM me.

 

[Sibanac]

Originally posted by GDW
Go wireless ffs !!!

There are however some drawbacks with going wifi.
Its fairly expensive
Its insecure as hell, unless you realy know what you are doing
The bandwith is limited (this might not be a problem for everyone)

 

[~Mobius~]

I see...so the thing I've got downstairs remains untouched.

So I only need 3 wires? pc1/pc2/x-box

 

[Sibanac]

yes 3 wires

pc-1 -> router
pc-2 -> router
xbox -> router

then
router -> cable modem (the picky thingy ) but that cable should be included with the router

 

[~Mobius~]

I finally understand it! Thanks alot.

 

[Sibanac]

np, have fun in Planetside
might see you there when i come back from holiday

 

[vofflujarnid]

All this router talks make me wanna try using a router

Any recommendations which brand of router to get? Is it fairly expensive? I only have 2 comps I want to connect to the Internet (PC and laptop)

thanks

 

[vofflujarnid]

I was thinking about this one:

ADSL SWITCH ROUTER - CNet CNAD804NF, ADSL Ethernet Switch Router with four(4) Switch ports.

This full rate ADSL PCI Card provides fast Internet access. The CNAD804-IF is an ADSL modem that plugs right into a computer¨s PCI slot. It provides users with Internet downloading speeds up to 8Mbps, and uploading speeds at rates up to 640Kbps. With the CNAD804-IF all communications are splitterless, allowing simultaneous ADSL and telephone transmissions on a single line! This full-time ADSL Modem represents the absolute cutting edge in ADSL products available today. The CNAD800-IF is the perfect choice for gaining tomorrow¨s capabilities today.

KEY FEATURES

* ADSL Internal PCI-Bus Modem

* Windows 95/98/2000/XP compliant

* Simultaneously supports ADSL and POTS

* ANSI TI.413 Issue 2 compliant

* G.992.1 and G.992.2 compliant

* Data rates up to 8Mbps downstream

* Data rates up to 640Kbps upstream

* 18,000 feet maximum distance

* Splitterless operation support with G.Lite operation

* Friendly GUI configuration and management software

* FCC and CE Mark approved

As I said in the post before, I just need two clients to be routed (PC and laptop). And I have ADSL 1.5Mbit/s connection.

This router costs 9.405 kr. which is about 73£ What do you guys think?

 

[kameleon]

It really depends on what you want to use the pcs for, if you use your lappy in the same room as your pc, you might as well just get either a bluetooth card for them both or as a cheaper alternative get an IRDA port for the pc and then connect your lappy with that

 

[Sibanac]

well if you are going to connect a pc to the net a router is the safest way to go, the router also acts as a firewall so will stop most if not all worms and attacks, and thus is IMHO well wurth the bit of extra cash you pay for it

 

[vofflujarnid]

Thanks for your replies, guys. My PC and Laptop are in same room so I could just settle for one crossover cable but as Sibanic says, the router is the most safest way to go I think. I only use the Laptop broswing the Internet when the PC is unavailble or i'm doing something on it (Burning, defragmenting, playing games etc.)