Qestion/Advice

Mauness

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now that my inf is very close to dinging the big 50, i just wonderd is it even possible to compete in rvr with no artifacts/ml abilities? i dont have time to camp arties/level them up and there for i have to do with a modified SI template.

If it is possible then, cool :) :clap:

but if not, is there a template using little artifacts as possible that dont take long to get or level up?

thank you for help :)
 

Case

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Definatly possible 1 of my guildies Excorcist has managed to compete very well for the last 2-3 months wearing rogs and his old Thid SC kit :eek:

Think he made around 70k last week
 

Darzil

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Can be worth looking for some nice non artifacts on the merchants.

Certainly my Paladin gets more benefit from a axe and shield which proc nice ablatives than from his artifacts. The equation may be different for an Infiltrator, though.

Darzil
 

Elitestoner

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my inf has no artis/mls and hes pretty hard :) only thing i lack that annoys me is any stealth lore
 

Razemouze

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just before NF-release my inf had a pretty nice template, but still no artis. Played with 2 heat LW's and a cetus cloak, rogs and some crafted 99% qual gear

gl :)
 

Mauness

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ok first off, thank you for the response :)

second, can anyone make me a template using no artifacts then? im happy to use ToA items though, like kroj ring//cetus skin or whatever.

thanks again =)
 

Ruvinan MadeInDenmark

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Get belt of sun, its prob one of the easiest artis to get and it levels pretty fast compared to alot other artis.

Then you can use the summoned wepons, they have 2% weapon speed, melee damage and style damage + a pretty nice DD with debuff.

And no, you dont have to be uber loaded with artis and ML's....but it help now a days :mad:

(givf pre toa and nf pls) :worthy:
 

Darzil

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Well, belt of the sun isn't as fast anymore, sadly. Used to train anywhere 50% of the time, now only trains in Mainland SI. Still, you can always get one and finish your levelling there.

I'd be tempted to try some cold (for tanks) and heat (for stealther) legendary weapons. They both have the same stats, so are interchangable in templates, and you can always put similar stats on crafted weapons for people vulnerable to neither.

Darzil
 

Righthandof

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trust me, you DO need arties.
ml is fun too(like ae poison mezz), but yes you can manage without mls.

my inf is 3l8, he has an mp set of SI sc, with everything capped, including 1 good legendary main hand weapon, tried various specs and he's crap. not in stealth zerg of course but i hate those. e.g. an rr2l0 inf with fully toa sc wtfpwned me in a duel even if I PAd him.. get cap increases, and dmg %'s or you dont have a chance.
 

Lexxus

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Config Report

Stats

Str: 74 Int: 0 Hits: 200
Con: 74 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 74 Cha: 0
Qui: 74 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 27 Energy: 26 Crush: 30 (2)
Cold: 25 Matter: 32 (5) Thrust: 27
Heat: 27 Spirit: 21 Slash: 30 (3)

Skills

11 Thrust

11 Stealth

11 Critical Strike

11 Dual Wield

11 Envenom

Focus

Cap Increases

Other Bonuses

Piece Listing

Chest
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 1 Stealth - 99 raw Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 76 Hits - 99 perfect Blood Essence
Gem 3: 5 Thrust - 99 imperfect Dusty War Sigil
Gem 4: 4 Dual Wield - 99 flawed Icy War Sigil
Utility: 69.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 2 Envenom - 99 uncut Dusty Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 3 Thrust - 99 rough Dusty War Sigil
Gem 3: 11 Matter Resist - 99 faceted Earthen Shielding
Gem 4: 11 Slash Resist - 99 faceted Watery Shielding
Utility: 69.00

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Thrust - 99 rough Dusty War Sigil
Gem 2: 9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Matter Resist - 99 polished Earthen Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 polished Airy Shielding
Utility: 69.00

Legs
Name: Royal Assassins Leggings
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 3 Envenom
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 8 Slash Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 61.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 16 Constitution - 99 polished Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 11 Spirit Resist - 99 faceted Vapor Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 99 imperfect Earthen Shielding
Utility: 60.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Strength - 99 precious Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Gem 3: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Utility: 64.00

Right Hand
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 16 Strength - 99 polished Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 25 Dexterity - 99 flawless Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Utility: 62.33

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Dual Wield - 99 rough Icy War Sigil
Gem 2: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Body Resist - 99 polished Dusty Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Utility: 69.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 28 (99 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 10 Body Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Ignuixs' Portible Shadow
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 18 Quickness
Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 3 Stealth
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00

Jewel
Name: Ancient Roman Coin
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 8 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 24 Hits
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 54.00

Belt
Name: Sacristan Coward's Belt
Level: 50 Quality: 90
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 30 Dexterity
Effect 2: 30 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 Stealth
Effect 4: 3 Envenom
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 70.00

Right Ring
Name: Exquisite Infernal Black Diamond Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 18 Constitution
Effect 3: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 44.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of Shades
Level: 47 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 3 Envenom
Effect 4: 3 Critical Strike
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 52.00

Right Wrist
Name: Roguish Bracer
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 4 Dexterity
Effect 2: 4 Dual Wield
Effect 3: 10 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 8 Crush Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 58.67

Left Wrist
Name: Bracer of the Stealthy
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 4 Quickness
Effect 2: 4 Stealth
Effect 3: 10 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 8 Body Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 58.67

Can easy be changed to slash if wanted
 

bigchief

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If you're gonna play with no artis, use LW's not crafted. They make a huge difference, if you dont use arti weapons you really should be using LW's. Tbh LW's make a greater difference to damage than an arti can.
 

Loch

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Dunno if this helps~


m00m00c0w said:
Config Report
Stats
Str: 101 Int: 0 Hits: 200
Con: 90 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 106 Cha: 0
Qui: 44 Emp: 0
Resists
Body: 24 Energy: 0 Crush: 26
Cold: 16 Matter: 15 Thrust: 29 (3)
Heat: 31 (5) Spirit: 10 Slash: 28 (2)
Skills
11 Thrust
11 Stealth
11 Critical Strike
3 Dual Wield
3 Envenom
Cap Increases
20 Dex
7 Qui
26 Str
15 Con
Other Bonuses
19 AF Bonus
4 Melee Speed Bonus
Piece Listing
Chest
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Strength - 99 perfect Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 52 Hits - 99 faceted Blood Essence
Gem 3: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 polished Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Slash Resist - 99 flawed Watery Shielding
Utility: 59.67
Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 52 Hits - 99 faceted Blood Essence
Gem 2: 7 Thrust Resist - 99 imperfect Airy Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Slash Resist - 99 imperfect Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Utility: 59.67
Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Thrust - 99 imperfect Dusty War Sigil
Gem 2: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Crush Resist - 99 polished Fiery Shielding
Gem 4: 12 Hits - 99 uncut Blood Essence
Utility: 66.00
Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 19 Constitution - 99 faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 4 Thrust - 99 flawed Dusty War Sigil
Gem 3: 7 Slash Resist - 99 imperfect Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 25 Quickness - 99 flawless Airy Essence
Utility: 63.33
Hands
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 7 Crush Resist - 99 imperfect Fiery Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Slash Resist - 99 imperfect Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Utility: 64.67
Feet
Name: Soot Smudged Boots (Leather)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 18 Constitution
Effect 3: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 7 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits
Utility: 34.00
Right Hand
Name:
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 28 Dexterity
Effect 2: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 19 AF Bonus
Utility: 50.67
Left Hand
Name: Desert Shadow Sword
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Dual Wield
Effect 2: 24 Strength
Effect 3: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 7 Matter Resist
Utility: 45.00
Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 10 Crush Resist
Utility: 80.00
Cloak
Name: Cloak of Thunder
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 2: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 3: 13 Strength
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Utility: 18.67
Jewel
Name: Harpy Feather Charm
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 44 Hits
Utility: 59.00
Belt
Name: Twisted Belt of Malamis
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 2: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 3: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 12 Dexterity
Effect 5: 4 Stealth
Utility: 28.00
Right Ring
Name: Ring of Shades
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 3 Critical Strike
Effect 3: 18 Strength
Effect 4: 3 Envenom
Utility: 52.00
Left Ring
Name: Krojers Dex Ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Dexterity
Effect 2: 2 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 2 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 2 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 26.00
Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of the Stealthy
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Quickness
Effect 2: 4 Stealth
Effect 3: 10 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 8 Body Resist
Utility: 58.67
Left Wrist
Name: Blackened Wrap
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 2: 7 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 3: 2 Thrust
Effect 4: 3 Stealth
Effect 5: 15 Dexterity
Effect 6: 15 Quickness
Utility: 45.00
 

Mauness

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again, ty for the replies + templates :)

another question :) how much does mp leather go for?
 

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