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Well I confirmed it this weekend that autofire and see through walls and floors exist in the q3 world. I always told all my buddies that with pure server turned on that q3 is better cheat proofed than q2. Not so. I found that on one popular server they seemed to be using the see through the floors cheat 75 percent of the time I spec'd on anyone. I can't tell too easily who is using the autofire. I also can't tell who is using the Q3 pure hack so they can always use their own paks no matter what.
You can also hack your quake3 to send out a 'I am pure' to any pure server and then still use your own paks anyway even if the server doesn't have it. Such as the Tick model we use. With the pure hack you could always use the Tick on a pure server that didn't have it.
There are two see through the walls and floors cheats. One turns a person white and you see him through just about anything for quite some distance and the other one puts symbols over their heads and you see the symbols for quite a distance through most anything. On non pure servers you can use the 'turn em while' cheat without downloading anything at all. It's a cvar you can bind, meaning it is part of q3.
The autofire works better than the bots of q2 where it would look like you are shooting out your butt. It pulls the trigger for you when your crosshair is over a player. Railing someone going straight away is no contest. It doesn't seem to have any prediction code in it though so railing someone going sideways is tougher cause it shoots at the person and not where they will land or be in a ms or two.
Even with Osp on our servers and them set to pure these cheats work. The only way to get rid of them is to use Osp with the server_ospauth set to 1. Well that means everyone playing on the server must have the correct version of the OSP client side of the server on their machines. You know that will be a pain for sure. Just yesterday they updated Osp and now the latest version of their client isn't compatible with the previous version. Meaning I need to update the servers to the latest version too.
On the other hand, RA3 has both client side and server side in the game already when you download it. RA3 is thus more bot proof than other q3 games at the moment.
I don't know about you guys but after watching more than 60 percent of the people using the see through walls and floors on Sat I've got a real problem with fighting them unless it is on a server that has the client side stuff mandatory. The autofire sucks for the most part but the see through the walls makes it so you know exactly when or if someone is coming into a doorway or is hiding or where they respawned. Someone with the autofire on and also did some shooting of their own would be real hard to beat. You can turn it on or off and you can shoot for yourself anytime you want too. These things are also real simple to install, just like a pak file.
I am fairly positive I saw guys I have played with many times seeing through the floors Sat. They would follow them around with their crosshair as the other player was under the floor on dm17. You can't get that lucky to be able to follow someone under a floor on that map and also just happen to jump down on the correct side of the map each time to get a shot at them if they don't come up. They would move as the player under the floor would move. They go back, the crosshair would go back, they go sideways, the crosshair would too. Also they followed them under the main floor when they fell off and were grappling under it.
I was always wondering how some players would shoot me before I could see them with my computers vid card and cable modem working fine. Well it is easy if you know they are going to pop up from under the floor and where.
You can also hack your quake3 to send out a 'I am pure' to any pure server and then still use your own paks anyway even if the server doesn't have it. Such as the Tick model we use. With the pure hack you could always use the Tick on a pure server that didn't have it.
There are two see through the walls and floors cheats. One turns a person white and you see him through just about anything for quite some distance and the other one puts symbols over their heads and you see the symbols for quite a distance through most anything. On non pure servers you can use the 'turn em while' cheat without downloading anything at all. It's a cvar you can bind, meaning it is part of q3.
The autofire works better than the bots of q2 where it would look like you are shooting out your butt. It pulls the trigger for you when your crosshair is over a player. Railing someone going straight away is no contest. It doesn't seem to have any prediction code in it though so railing someone going sideways is tougher cause it shoots at the person and not where they will land or be in a ms or two.
Even with Osp on our servers and them set to pure these cheats work. The only way to get rid of them is to use Osp with the server_ospauth set to 1. Well that means everyone playing on the server must have the correct version of the OSP client side of the server on their machines. You know that will be a pain for sure. Just yesterday they updated Osp and now the latest version of their client isn't compatible with the previous version. Meaning I need to update the servers to the latest version too.
On the other hand, RA3 has both client side and server side in the game already when you download it. RA3 is thus more bot proof than other q3 games at the moment.
I don't know about you guys but after watching more than 60 percent of the people using the see through walls and floors on Sat I've got a real problem with fighting them unless it is on a server that has the client side stuff mandatory. The autofire sucks for the most part but the see through the walls makes it so you know exactly when or if someone is coming into a doorway or is hiding or where they respawned. Someone with the autofire on and also did some shooting of their own would be real hard to beat. You can turn it on or off and you can shoot for yourself anytime you want too. These things are also real simple to install, just like a pak file.
I am fairly positive I saw guys I have played with many times seeing through the floors Sat. They would follow them around with their crosshair as the other player was under the floor on dm17. You can't get that lucky to be able to follow someone under a floor on that map and also just happen to jump down on the correct side of the map each time to get a shot at them if they don't come up. They would move as the player under the floor would move. They go back, the crosshair would go back, they go sideways, the crosshair would too. Also they followed them under the main floor when they fell off and were grappling under it.
I was always wondering how some players would shoot me before I could see them with my computers vid card and cable modem working fine. Well it is easy if you know they are going to pop up from under the floor and where.