Puzzled!!

[Neberi]

This is the case: Me and my friend are thinking about playing some hib. We are feeling hooked on rolling some rangers.....
We are going for melee specced rangers, and have a few questions:
1: Do they stand a chance against sb and inf?
2: How high do we need to go in stealth as we will get high MOS (4-5)
3: Luri or Shar (we think luris looks damn FINE, but shars seems the obvious choice, are we correct?)

Hope there are some nice hibbies out there willing to help us out some.:worthy:

 

[Kaun_IA]

if you want to stand against inf and SBs you need a very good temp, what means you are goin to spend alot of money.

mos3 max and 35 stealth. whit camo up i can see infs and sb as they see me.
higher mos ois usefull when you are a sniper ranger.

want baldes specc........go shar or celt. celt is good allaround. shar will have higher con. so if you will stay blades go shar.

pierce is good if you are a luri hit hard and fast.


mele temps are really expencive to make so prepare to spend alot, again

 

[Neberi]

Thx for the respond...
I see we porbebly have misunderstood some things. U say that mos3 is enough, so we dont need high mos to be able to spot other stealthers quicker and therefor able to uncover em fast so they wont be able to crit? We thought the piont was to uncover em and get em in pure melee combat, and having the upperhand thatway.
If we go pierce and choose luri will we be serverly nerfed hp wise?

 

[Kaun_IA]

Thx for the respond...
I see we porbebly have misunderstood some things. U say that mos3 is enough, so we dont need high mos to be able to spot other stealthers quicker and therefor able to uncover em fast so they wont be able to crit? We thought the piont was to uncover em and get em in pure melee combat, and having the upperhand thatway.
If we go pierce and choose luri will we be serverly nerfed hp wise?

melee rangers dont need to see stealthers first. thats why they go to melee. to make fights to come to them. if you want to gett upperhand on a melee fight, roll a ns.

well celt dont do bad at pierce allso, but shar dex is too low. well thts just my opinion.

my ranger is celt and blades. atm rr4 whit mos3 ip2 and purge1.

 

[Frozodo]

tbh best combo is ranjur / Ns and i would go mos4 as ranjur cos u need to get ur sidestun without problem and 35stealth. and plus with mos4 u can see sb / inf / mincer miles away and got a good chance to get em out of stealth without getting paed / backstabbed

 

[Neberi]

hmm okay... I was just in love with the first time evade stun style u get in pierce but still wanted the high con on shar to hold out a bit longer in melee.
we got one saying mos4 and one saying no need. But i thinki get the point atm.
The pros and cons for going melee specced ranger?

 

[Kaun_IA]

hmm okay... I was just in love with the first time evade stun style u get in pierce but still wanted the high con on shar to hold out a bit longer in melee.
we got one saying mos4 and one saying no need. But i thinki get the point atm.
The pros and cons for going melee specced ranger?

pros:

when you have a good temp and a good specc, you will hit like a truck.
you can fight more different classes imo, even mages whit brittles up should be np for a fst hitting melee class.

cons:

you need a good set of RAs, ip2 purge2 depending on your play style mos3 or so. then you need physical defence (if im correct on the name). to put it simle you need lots of ras to be hard to beat.

you dont have a bow, thats the most biggest con imo, cant shoot at keep fight or something. allso you dont have rapid fire whats good for shooting ppl who try to cats or run away,

 

[Neberi]

I thought of it like this...
Ranger melee specced, yes requires alot of good eqip and lots of ra´s.
Though the bonus is that u can get into favorble fights more often than with NS.
If a tank runs by, give him an arrow to make him aggro u. My point is that its easier to get fights. And as for stealthers, i though high mos would give me a chance to uncover em with arrow or so and then go for the melee. We will play a duo all the time, almost never solo, so thought that even without bow spec, if someone tries to run away we should have a good chance of shooting em down. (espacially casters.)
We see this char as a hunter with two weapons, and tbh thats damn kewl.
Im getting the impression that they are good but needs alot of work to get there. Which is good, we got some goals now=)
But still very much in doubt about race

 

[Howley]

well if i was to make a melee ranger i would go mos4 tbh....and on my NS, i aint going to look forward to getting an arrow by a scout wen i am stealthed and running for him and finding he is melee spec (even bow spec wit slam )

imo if u can talk to censi b4 u decide on anything...he is a v good melee ranger

 

[Kaun_IA]

whit 12 bow (what is minimum) you do shit dmg do runaways, but if needed you can keep stealthers form stealthing by shooting them

 

[Neberi]

We are gonna start em now, and lvl those two and a BB, so what we need to clear is the race..
No doubt that we are gonna spec melee, and no doubt that we are gonna go pierce if luri´s and blade if shars. Question is which race. What race is censi?

 

[Howley]

censi is a luri...
he has a pretty good vid on rpgfilms(i tink) that u gota watch

 

[TriggerHappy]

anyone think of a celt or elf ?
i guess elfs aint great but tbh, i would consider celt, very well rounded char and good melee, personally i would go luri for the simple reason, that if by the time u get to lvl50 etc and would consider respeccing to bow u would have the option unlike with a shar which would be a terrible choice for a ranged range imo, (celt FTW )

 

[Deadnala]

in order to make a melee ranger you should read this.

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=173392
Verry good guide for melee rangers there
Greetings

 

[censi]

Play the ranger class because you like it first. Play it as a balanced all round ranger as the class was intended. Do not neglect bow initially... range will be your main ticket to realm points....

once u played the class to rr5, and you got your own opinions about whats effective and not effect (and your own opinion is the most important one here because it will be drawn from your playstyle), and a solid understanding of what the class is about then make the call on whether u wanna completly sacrifice your primary attack form to give you a disproportional increse to your melee effectiveness.

I think theres like this feeling that melee rangers wtfpwnorz everything. It aint true. Melee ranger if not an effective way to play the "class" its just a platform to abuse some very powerful timed abilities that the assasin fraturnaty does not have access to.

The real sign of a successfull melee ranger is one who can succeed without use of those timers. Thats what i play for anyway (and fail miserably most of the time, but thats when the timers come in handy)

NS is better target killer than a melee ranger (and therefore a better RP earner), but a melee ranger can be considerably tougher to take down.

btw if theres 2 of you, you would be crazy to both go Ranger, as opposed to Ranger NS combo.