Pulling at camped spots

[Slinker]

Hiya's

Was pulling at a spot today for 2 and half hours , being a Ranger hardly get any groups so was doing the usual soloing at trees . The spot I was at popped between 1 - 3 trees every couple of minutes , very slow spawn , when some enchantress comes up and just decimates the area , I told her how long I had been there and it was a slow spot , so asked her if she did'nt mind moving over , she replied " its a game and can pull where she wanted " So I got in touch with the GM and told her exactly what went on and the reply I got , and I said it really screws up the game if people just run into other peoples camps and start pulling . I was told if I was'nt pulling that particular mob it was fair game and they cant do anything about it . So I said "so you are saying that anyone can go into anyones camped spot and pull ?" she replied "yes" . So is this the way of things now , whenever I see a camped spot I just move on , or should I be a bastard and just pull anyway ? You will notice I never used any names , it's bad enough having to post about this sort of behaviour .

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

The rules GoA/Mythic set up it does state that you cannot "camp" a spot. The only thing that is against the rules is leeching xp. So if you would be pulling a mob, the enchanter would nuke it getting some xp.
Then again, the enchanter is an utter noob, and the GM is being a complete and utter cunt. Only shows respect if you go to a camp spot, and ask before you pull. This is pretty normal behaviour, strange that GM now all of the sudden claims otherwise.
Regards, Glottis

 

[greenfingers]

I would say leech of her...
spam her with PM's, /yell all the time .. ohh .. and not to forget /taunt
and for the good of the game, let her be a total jack@$$...

Or you could try conviencing her by trying to explain yourself further.

 

[evilknight]

Originally posted by greenfingers
I would say leech of her...
spam her with PM's, /yell all the time .. ohh .. and not to forget /taunt
and for the good of the game, let her be a total jack@$$...

Works every time...........

 

[belth]

It's funny as shit, the game's PvE side is nothing but camping, straight from level1 to level50, the mobs are placed in camps, you even get a fucking camp bonus. Then GOA/Mythic etc say you can't camp a camp

 

[Kalinzir]

yesterday i was in a group camping rocots, as ranger i was pulling all the time and sometimes you just see an enchanter coming.. making a pet.. putting focus shield on, get all "your" rocots away:/

very frustrating, although it was funny to shoot a rocot when his pet was almost there

 

[Urme the Legend]

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
The rules GoA/Mythic set up it does state that you cannot "camp" a spot. The only thing that is against the rules is leeching xp. So if you would be pulling a mob, the enchanter would nuke it getting some xp.
Then again, the enchanter is an utter noob, and the GM is being a complete and utter cunt. Only shows respect if you go to a camp spot, and ask before you pull. This is pretty normal behaviour, strange that GM now all of the sudden claims otherwise.
Regards, Glottis

I actually agrees with Glottis on this..

 

[belth]

On another note, the WoW devs are saying there are no mob camps in it, but you have to wander around etc... Hopefully leveling requires less mobs killed/level thand DAoC or something, otherwise it can get pretty boring...

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

Originally posted by Urme the Legend
I actually agrees with Glottis on this..

I allmost thought of using this as a signature
Regards, Glottis

 

[Faeldawn]

Most players would agree with you Slinker, there was a time when nicking a camped spot would be almost unthinkable, and would usually result in that person getting repremanded by their guild.

However, you cant exactly stamp yer name on a spawn.

As a ranger i would suggest finding a secluded spot where no one goes much, if someone does turn up and steals the spawn and then gets all pissy about it there really isnt much you can do about it except either leach off them, share the spawn or move on.

Most guilds dont care anymore about such 'trivial' things

 

[Tranquil-]

Originally posted by belth
On another note, the WoW devs are saying there are no mob camps in it, but you have to wander around etc... Hopefully leveling requires less mobs killed/level thand DAoC or something, otherwise it can get pretty boring...

<cries>

GIVE NOW

 

[kirennia]

heh, I know some peopel can't do it but if I'm soloing, I always have my lvl 50 alt logged very close. If they start clearing the area, I clear it 10 times faster. Of course at higher lvl, this may require you calling your guild mates for a helping hand. Maybe follow them about for a bit. It's a harsh way of doing it but if they can bend the rules, I'll bend em twice as far. Nothing against EULA doing this, long as you don't hit their mobs or follow em about for hours on end

 

[belth]

Wish I'd bookmarked the page with the WoW devs interview... Propably would've forgot to transfer the bookmarks to current browser though

 

[Zephyrx]

Like Jar Jar would say..It's just wude

 

[Gahldir]

Some ppl are just stupid morons. I would say there is a silent deal between the majority of the players that you don't pull from an already camped spawn. Atleast if you don't ask first and are allowed to. Common decensy imo. Crashing a persons/groups camped spot is crashing thier game experience imo.

Altho, there are quite a few of these assholes in the game that doesn't respect things like this and do everything that fits thier purposes. Most of these tend to be Enchanters in Hibernia from my experience.

 

[Cap'n Sissyfoo]

A-yip. There are a lot of pricks in this game. When in doubt, report them to GOA. They probably won't do anything about it but then again...mebbe they will.

 

[Slinker]

Thanks for the replies , I was beginning to think I was in the wrong , especially as I thought this particular GM of a well known guild is known to me and puts on the act of a nice person , just goes to show ........


Caelithar Trueflight

One and only member of the guild

<The Lone Ranger>

 

[moo_work]

Originally posted by greenfingers
I would say leech of her...
spam her with PM's, /yell all the time .. ohh .. and not to forget /taunt
and for the good of the game, let her be a total jack@$$...

Or you could try conviencing her by trying to explain yourself further.

says the guy who came in with 2 grey alts and leeched from advisors when id been there 3 hrs already, only left when i said it was camped over and over and /rude spam while leaving..

 

[Faeldawn]

Originally posted by Sissyfoo
A-yip. There are a lot of pricks in this game. When in doubt, report them to GOA. They probably won't do anything about it but then again...mebbe they will.

GOA can only enfore CoC, camping spawns isnt included, abusive behaviour is.

Then again, you could name yerself GOArallGoatBlowers, and not get any response until someone actually reported you, and who is gonna report a name like that as its only offensive to GOA, and mildly amusing to the general population

 

[dakeyras]

In the old days you rarely had to even say a spot was camped. Players turned up, saw you were there and moved on.

The advisor bug in the Barrows was the first time I saw previously decent players turn into selfish, greedy assholes. Necro's took it a stage further and have probably caused more ill-feeling in Alb than any other char. Turn up, destroy your camp bonus and move on once everything was dead, to leave you having to wait in what was previously a nice easy paced spot. (not all, mind you, just the minority of idiots who end up typecasting an entire class)

Though it isn't against the CoC to gatecrash someone else's 'camp', most decent players will recognise that they were not there first and move on. Haven't xp'd in the old world much, but there is enough mobs and enough camps in the SI zones to make camp stealing totally unnecessary.

 

[ilaya]

Right.. I am the GM that Slinker is mentioning here ok?. Now as a GM and Alliance leader I feel the need to not only read the c/o/c once, but many times over.. and everytime there is a patch. Now I wasnt saying what my guildy was doing was right.. its just it cant be stopped, its not in breach of any rules. What would be next? A level 2 char complaing that someone is killing all the skeletal pawns by Mag Mell?

I have heard both sides of this thing.. from " they are nicking my camp" and "they said i have nicked their camp".. mobs dont belong to anyone until they are pulled.

End.

Ilaya Daquirrelslayer - 50 Lurichamp - Raven Ardent - 1132 AC - GM Hearts of Fire

 

[ilaya]

Right.. I am the GM that Slinker is mentioning here ok?. Now as a GM and Alliance leader I feel the need to not only read the c/o/c once, but many times over.. and everytime there is a patch. Now I wasnt saying what my guildy was doing was right.. its just it cant be stopped, its not in breach of any rules. What would be next? A level 2 char complaing that someone is killing all the skeletal pawns by Mag Mell?

I have heard both sides of this thing.. from " they are nicking my camp" and "they said i have nicked their camp".. mobs dont belong to anyone until they are pulled.

End.

Ilaya Daquirrelslayer - 50 Lurichamp - Raven Ardent - 1132 AC - GM Hearts of Fire

 

[mrjack]

I was in SI at around lvl 25 i think doing grey ghosts at haunted village and this oter necro comes up and tells me this is his camp and that i was breaking DAoC rules for pulling there, wtf i thought, never heard of that before and i told him that. He then told me np ill just leech some from u to make u leave... now i heard that is against the rules really, i have log 'n all but i aint at home now =P ill give ya them when i get home.

 

[belth]

Originally posted by ilaya
What would be next? A level 2 char complaing that someone is killing all the skeletal pawns by Mag Mell?

Could be counted as griefing, those mobs ain't anything but gray to anyone above lvl4, maybe 5

 

[Erekrose]

Originally posted by ilaya
Right.. I am the GM that Slinker is mentioning here ok?. Now as a GM and Alliance leader I feel the need to not only read the c/o/c once, but many times over.. and everytime there is a patch. Now I wasnt saying what my guildy was doing was right.. its just it cant be stopped, its not in breach of any rules. What would be next? A level 2 char complaing that someone is killing all the skeletal pawns by Mag Mell?

I have heard both sides of this thing.. from " they are nicking my camp" and "they said i have nicked their camp".. mobs dont belong to anyone until they are pulled.

End.

Ilaya Daquirrelslayer - 50 Lurichamp - Raven Ardent - 1132 AC - GM Hearts of Fire

It may not be in the COC but there is a moral code that decent people adhere to. Ilaya i am disapointed in you.

 

[vofflujarnid]

People actually read the CoC?

 

[illu]

I was going to say the same thing as erekrose, simply that it is common courtesy that if someone is camping a place or pulling certain mobs for example, to get a magic item drop or just getting xp, then at least you should talk to the person there if you would like to pull the same mobs - maybe even form a team together.....

I think we've all had it done to us one time or another, and it is just plain bad manners if you just steam in, and pull away.

If there are sufficient mobs popping so that there is minimal downtime even when a second party is pulling - fair enough, but if the spawn rate can't handle 2 teams pulling them, then the first group there should be left to their own devices, and team 2 move on to another spawn spot.

Oli - ILLU

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by illu
I was going to say the same thing as erekrose, simply that it is common courtesy that if someone is camping a place or pulling certain mobs for example, to get a magic item drop or just getting xp, then at least you should talk to the person there if you would like to pull the same mobs - maybe even form a team together.....

I think we've all had it done to us one time or another, and it is just plain bad manners if you just steam in, and pull away.

If there are sufficient mobs popping so that there is minimal downtime even when a second party is pulling - fair enough, but if the spawn rate can't handle 2 teams pulling them, then the first group there should be left to their own devices, and team 2 move on to another spawn spot.

Oli - ILLU

Amen.

This is IMHO about showing respect and common courtesy to other ppl. I think the mayority of us knows when a spot is camped or not. The spawn rate and the size of the spot decides how many can pull from it without overcamping. However it also goes the otherway arround were an individual/grp doesn't want to share the spot with another individual/grp when infact it is sufficient mobs spawning.

 

[Faeldawn]

Originally posted by Erekrose
It may not be in the COC but there is a moral code that decent people adhere to. Ilaya i am disapointed in you.

Agree, this is not like you Ilaya