Proposals for Organised Artifact Hunting Methodology

Kalthorine

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Hehe... just realised that the title to this thread sounds like I am writing a thesis on it! :D

I wonder if people could give me feedback on the following suggested strategy for artifact hunting in ToA:

First of all, does this sound at all familiar to everyone:

A Generic Arty Raid Leader said:
Hey lets go and see if arty A is active... bummer, encounter is down. OK, lets go and take a look at arty B's encounter... grrr, nerf stoopid respawn rates... right everyone, over to arty C... dammit its camped... er... where did my arty hunting group go? :eek7:

So, without pretending to have a great amount of experience in organising artifact hunts, I was wondering what people thought about this as a more logical and efficient way of going about things:

1) Get a diverse but experienced and reliable bunch of people together who:
.....a) Want a wide range of different artifacts between them
.....b) Are kind and patient enough to help others with arties and scrolls they want in the knowledge that they in turn will get help with theirs, even if it takes a while.

2) Decide on a time for first meet that is
.....a) Convenient for all concerned
.....b) Optional but preferable: Not at a peak DaoC useage time

3) Artygroup Organiser gets all to list the arties they are after and provides everyone with an order of priority that is agreed upon, taking into account how many want each given artifact, frequency of arty encounter spawn rate (mixing up rare and commonish ones), and keeping as many people in the group happy as possible.

4) On the time and date of the first meeting, the group do not meet up together at the start, instead they log on seperately at the same time as follows:
.....a) Each member heads to a different arty encounter,having been allocated one in advance - e.g. if there are 1.5FG in the Arty Hunting mob, there will be 12 different arties allocated for named people to head to.
.....b) Each arty hunter reports back to the battlegroup as to whether or not their given encounter/mob is up.
.....c) The highest priority artifact whose encounter is up is identified off the list, the arty hunter at that encounter stays to camp it, and all others make a beeline to join him/her.
.....d) After a given arty is gained for all the people that want it, time is given to farming the necessary scrolls as a group as well (i.e. this Arty Group isn't just interested in helping its members obtain just the arties themselves... it wants them to get ACTIVATED arties as well).

5) Step 4 repeated after each arty is gained, until time allocated for a given Raid is used up, or there are no further arty encounters up on a given date.

6) A new date and time is set for the next attempt, and so on and so on until everyone has at least one arty or for as long as people keep supporting the group.

Apologies if I am stating the obvious here or if this is a standard tactic anyway that I am ignorant of - but I have too often experienced the "Benny Hill Method" of artifact hunting (anyone who has seen the chase sequences on the end credits of Benny Hill shows should know exactly what I mean) where everyone wastes incredible amounts of time running from arty site to arty site, sometimes seemingly at random.

If people like the sound of this idea and fancy trying it out to see if it works, then please say so here and I will try and give it a go... am very busy over the next week or so with planned ML Raids, but can I suggest 8.00pm UK time on Wednesday 23rd June as a provisional date and time if people are interested?

For the record, I have my eyes on Guard of Valour and Shades of Mist atm ;)
 

Escape

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That's possible within a guild/friends... but very unlikely to see it work with random people.
 

Linnet

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Kalthorine said:
1) Get a diverse but experienced and reliable bunch of people together who:
.....a) Want a wide range of different artifacts between them
.....b) Are kind and patient enough to help others with arties and scrolls they want in the knowledge that they in turn will get help with theirs, even if it takes a while.

Would you be willing to wait until everyone else had an artifact they wanted until you got the one that you did? (Rhetorical. But imagine everyone else who might join you will be asking themself that question.)
 

Kalthorine

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Linnet said:
Would you be willing to wait until everyone else had an artifact they wanted until you got the one that you did? (Rhetorical. But imagine everyone else who might join you will be asking themself that question.)
Speaking personally... yes, perfectly happy to wait as long as it takes so long as it means the job gets done eventually. This methodology relies on people being generous and helpful as well as patient and reliable, hence Escape's point about working best with Guild/friends is well taken. I for one am quite happy for any artifacts I want to be at the bottom of the list - what's the rush, a lot of the arty encounters are fun to do anyway, and I don't think I would want to group with anyone with a "when is it my turn? I want my arty NOW NOW NOW" attitude anyway... in fact, who would?
 

Graknak

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Ok let's say you got 3fg of ppl and those 3fg all want Eirenes or a similar artifact taking time/respawn of 10+ hours, don't you think that a fair few ppl would get even abit bored after doing the same encounter 20-ish times ?
Main flaw in such groups simply is that when more ppl want the same artifact it can last a looooooong time....
 

emma

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You can count me in with any artifact raids ;p being unguilded i lack the support of a guild so need all the help i can get ;p
 

Kalthorine

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Graknak said:
Ok let's say you got 3fg of ppl and those 3fg all want Eirenes or a similar artifact taking time/respawn of 10+ hours, don't you think that a fair few ppl would get even abit bored after doing the same encounter 20-ish times ?
Main flaw in such groups simply is that when more ppl want the same artifact it can last a looooooong time....
Which is precisely why planning and organisation is needed - anyone who takes a full 3 groups to Eirenes and expects everyone to wait around until everyone has it, deserves to have an Eerie Darkness Lighting Stone inserted where it definitely AIN'T gonna shine! :D

I had envisaged this kind of approach only working for between 1FG and 1.5FG of people anyway, so clearly that will rule quite a few artifacts out anyway. I do think, though, that (in my experience anyway) there are a lot more patient and helpful peeps around in Albion than a lot of people give them credit for...
 

Greatred

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I certainly would be interesting in such an arrangement. I'm unguilded atm and at least one artifact on my list to acquire, without a guild and little cash myself a group such as this would be very nice. I'm happy to help people with their artifacts - it's certainly something to do before my cleric is properly RvR capable (multiple drops/arti's required I think).
 

Graendel

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PM me ingame - I like the idea. Have all the artis I need on wiz, I think, but will have to start rqupping my cleric and pala on other account soon. It's also fun to help others and learn how the encounters work.
 

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