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Priest template that i'll probably go for.

Discussion in 'Class Discussion' started by old.Tohtori, Mar 17, 2005.

  1. old.Tohtori

    old.Tohtori FH is my second home

    Kinda warrior priest.

    Spirit Tap Rank 5
    Improved Shadow Word: Pain Rank 2
    Shadow Total: 7

    Discipline Mastery
    Unbreakable Will Rank 5
    Silent Resolve Rank 5
    Martyrdom Rank 2
    Improved Power Word: Shield Rank 3
    Improved Power Word: Fortitude Rank 2
    Focused Casting Rank 1
    Mental Agility Rank 5
    Improved Inner Fire Rank 3
    Mental Strength Rank 5
    Improved Mana Burn Rank 2
    Meditation Rank 5
    Force of Will Rank 5
    Divine Spirit Rank 1

    Discipline Total: 44

    Total
    Total Points Spent: 51
    Level Required: 60

    Ok, so a discipline priest ain't the perfect choice perhaps, but i like to specialize. I'm also gonna take on dagger instead of staves.

    This is just what i'm planning so, comments are welcome.
     
  2. [TB] Benedictine

    [TB] Benedictine Fledgling Freddie

    I'm not sure what this spec achieves (but then Im no expert on talents!) As I see it it neither enhances your killing ability nor your healing ability. All it might do is extend your life for a few more seconds - am I wrong?
     
  3. Abel

    Abel Fledgling Freddie

    If you really want to specialise Holy or Shadow are more obvious choices.

    Granted, I can't tell you how you will fare because full disc is a path that virtually no priest takes, but maybe that might have a reason ...
     
  4. civy

    civy One of Freddy's beloved

    I'd consider adding improved renew if you can. The improved version gives you more bang for each point of mana whilst spreading hate out over the duration of the spell.

    I'm also going to get improved PWS since its been shown that the effect on warrior rage generation is negligible.

    Think I'll go something like this.


    Shadow Mastery
    Spirit Tap
    Rank 5/5
    Gives you a 100% chance to gain a 100% bonus to your Spirit after killing a target that yields experience. For the duration, your Mana may regenerate at a 50% rate while casting. Lasts 15 sec.

    Shadow Total: 5

    Discipline Mastery
    Silent Resolve
    Rank 5/5
    Reduces the threat generated by your damage spells by 20%.

    Improved Power Word: Shield
    Rank 3/3
    Reduces the duration of your Power Word: Shield's Weakened Soul effect by 15 sec.

    Improved Power Word: Fortitude
    Rank 2/2
    Increases the effect of your Power Word: Fortitude and Prayer of Fortitude spells by 30%.

    Mental Agility
    Rank 5/5
    Reduces the mana cost of your instant cast spells by 10%.

    Improved Inner Fire
    Rank 3/3
    Increases the effects of your Inner Fire spell by 45%.

    Mental Strength
    Rank 5/5
    Increases your maximum Mana by 10%.

    Inner Focus
    Rank 1/1
    Instant 5 min cooldown
    When activated, reduces the Mana cost of your next spell by 100% and increases its critical effect chance by 25% if it is capable of a critical effect.

    Discipline Total: 24


    Holy Mastery
    Improved Renew
    Rank 5/5
    Increases the amount healed by your Renew spell by 15%.

    Spiritual Healing
    Rank 5/5
    Increases the amount healed by your healing spells by 10%.

    Holy Fire
    Rank 1/1
    110 Mana 30 yd range
    5 sec cast 1 min cooldown
    Consumes the enemy in flames that cause 96 to 122 Fire damage and an additional 28 Fire damage over 8 sec.

    Subtlety
    Rank 5/5
    Reduces the threat generated by your healing spells by 20%.

    Improved Healing
    Rank 5/5
    Reduces the Mana cost of your Lesser Heal, Heal, and Greater Heal spells by 15%.

    Spirit of Redemption
    Rank 1/1
    Upon death, summons a Spirit of Redemption that heals nearby friendly targets for 918 to 960 and another 938 over 21 sec.

    Holy Total: 22
    Total
    Total Points Spent:51
    Level Required: 60
     
  5. SilverHood

    SilverHood Part of the furniture

    I agree with Ben, your don't really seem to achieve anything using this spec, apart from reasonably fast mana regeneration, which is ok for high end instances, but not useful in PvP in its current form.

    I'd personally ditch Silent Resolve and Meditation, and grab Mindflay, and the 2 holy talents that improve your renew and and overall healing (improved renew and spiritual healing?).

    Silent resolve reduces threat from dmg spells... that's just a waste of talents. You're not going to be doing damage in groups anyway. Grab subtelty in the Holy tree for threat reduction for healing spells.
    Meditation? 15% of 7000 mana @ 60? 105 mana regenned during the 5 second rule. That's not even enough for half a flash heal. And that's assuming you have top gear. You'd be better better off grabbing improved renew and getting better heal / mana ratio, than trying to grab a tiny amount of mana after each cast.

    Otherwise, a spec like this could work, but you'd need a set of Devout Gear at 60 for the spirit to be effective. Or wait til they fix spirit for priests.

    [EDIT - Spelling]
     
  6. Wyleia

    Wyleia Fledgling Freddie

    I dont think this guy has played a character past level 10... full discipline.. heh...

    dmg output comes from shadow line, healing power comes from holy line.. discipline? err Woot i get to buff myuself with a +30something spirit at the end talent (Divine Spirit).


    Some of the discipline talents are v.nice but to spend 44 points is a bit overkill for a bunch of stuff that dont help you as much as spending points in another area.
     
  7. old.Tohtori

    old.Tohtori FH is my second home

    Quite wrong there.

    I haven't played. Period. :p

    I just want to get my options clear before i get to the hack'n'slash. That's why i asked peeps here, knowing that the only place to get your skilltree bashed in an orderly fashion is...freddies :D

    Thanks for the heads-up people and i'll just get back to ye old drawing board, or go with my original evil-full-shadow-till-50-then-holy line.

    EDIT: Main thing is, especially to people who know my infamous Jeff from DAoC ( :flame: ), i don't intend on doing a healer loveydovey priest.

    As Jeff would say:

    Player: You're the healer!
    Jeff: Common mistake.
     
  8. Wyleia

    Wyleia Fledgling Freddie

    You can respec as much as you want, the price of respec goes up and up though (costs money). Caps out at 50g. When you play priest for a while you will realize what talents are good to have and what are a waste of points when you could get more bang for your buck. My advice is to not even look at talents until you have played a bit. I was level 30 on US servers before i spent any talent points because I didnt know what different spells did and what would be most useful to have. There is no one forcing you to spend talent points each level as you level. You can build them up then spend when you know more about your class and what the different spells do and which would be handy to have improved :)
     
  9. Abel

    Abel Fledgling Freddie

    Don't be mistaken, Disc has several ace must-have talents ! But they're mostly early in the tree.

    You can still easely go deep into holy or shadow and still pick most of the usefull disc talents, which is what priests usually do.
     
  10. old.Tohtori

    old.Tohtori FH is my second home

    That's kinda what i'm trying to avoid. As usual, i like to play the off-hand, strange way with a class. Have to look into it, or perhaps go with another class :D




    Nah, this place needs priests.

    From an RP perspective, imight go all holy just for the sake of shouting:

    Repent sinners!!!

    or sumthing when battle is going on.

    EDIT:

    Which would look like this, groupie favvy :p

    Unbreakable Will
    Rank 5/5
    Increases your chance to resist Stun, Fear, and Silence effects by 15%.
    Improved Power Word: Shield
    Rank 3/3
    Reduces the duration of your Power Word: Shield's Weakened Soul effect by 15 sec.
    Improved Power Word: Fortitude
    Rank 2/2
    Increases the effect of your Power Word: Fortitude and Prayer of Fortitude spells by 30%.
    Discipline Total: 10
    Holy Mastery
    Improved Renew
    Rank 5/5
    Increases the amount healed by your Renew spell by 15%.
    Holy Specialization
    Rank 5/5
    Increases the critical effect chance of your Holy spells by 5%.
    Spiritual Healing
    Rank 5/5
    Increases the amount healed by your healing spells by 10%.
    Inspiration
    Rank 5/5
    Increases your target's armor by 25% for 15 sec after getting a critical effect from your Flash Heal, Heal, Greater Heal, or Prayer of Healing spell.
    Subtlety
    Rank 5/5
    Reduces the threat generated by your healing spells by 20%.
    Improved Healing
    Rank 5/5
    Reduces the Mana cost of your Lesser Heal, Heal, and Greater Heal spells by 15%.
    Improved Flash Heal
    Rank 2/2
    Gives you a 70% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Flash Heal.
    Improved Prayer of Healing
    Rank 2/2
    Reduces the Mana cost of your Prayer of Healing spell by 20%.
    Spirit of Redemption
    Rank 1/1
    Upon death, summons a Spirit of Redemption that heals nearby friendly targets for 918 to 960 and another 938 over 21 sec.
    Master Healer
    Rank 5/5
    Reduces the casting time of your Heal and Greater Heal spells by 0.5 sec.
    Holy Nova
    Rank 1/1
    216 Mana
    Instant cast 5 sec cooldown
    Causes an explosion of holy light around the caster, causing 100 to 110 Holy damage to all targets within 10 yards. The effect also temporarily reduces your threat level against nearby targets for 5 sec.
    Holy Total: 41
    Total
    Total Points Spent: 51
    Level Required: 60
     
  11. Vantros of the Delerium

    Vantros of the Delerium Fledgling Freddie

    discipline is useless to spec in, it wont help u in anyway... i am slightly split spec.. mostly in shadow but enough in holy to make my heals better for grouping... i can solo faster than most other classes and take next to no dmg. At lvl 54 i was able to take 2 lvl 55 dinos in ungoro at the same time and barely get to 80% hps.. and no i didnt heal i only used shield and nukes as i was in shadow mode.

    holy is great if you dont wana solo, but unless u make groups for yourself alot u will do alot of soloing. if u wanna be able to heal in groups and still hit hard as hell with a nuke i would suggest shadow.. mind flay is great in groups as it slows a mobs movement speed by 50% so runners cant really run and baff..

    even being all shadow your heals are superb btw.
     
  12. SilverHood

    SilverHood Part of the furniture

    Improved powerword shield is the best talent in the game. No doubt about it. It will make you a god in PvP, and it means you will never die against a mob less than 5 levels above you, as long as you have mana. And 10% mana of insta cast spells - *how* can you go wrong, when 2/3'rds of all your spell are insta's when doing PvP or fighting elite instances? You can't

    :)

    I always thought the irony of the discipline tree, is that both Holy and Shadow priests use it to heal more efficiently, and then they argue about whether Shadow or Holy is best for end game.
     
  13. Lakashnik

    Lakashnik Fledgling Freddie

    atm im going 10 in disc and rest shadow just to try it out.
    cant remember exactley but the 15%more to resist fear and stun i think is fantastic. then using the other 5 for better shield and stamina buff.
    i might spec more in later i dunno but majority of its going into shadow to improove dmg etc. i end up solo-ing alot. and without holy spec i still seem to heal fine in grps so far.
     
  14. SilverHood

    SilverHood Part of the furniture

    Yeh, Shadow is fine for all instances below 60 as long as you know what you're doing.

    Only instance I've ever had trouble with so far is Zul Farak, but that's probably because we're too low, more than anything.
     
  15. Loch

    Loch Fledgling Freddie

    Discipline 20 Pts
    Unbreakable Will 5/5
    Martyrdom 2/2
    Improved Power Word: Shield 3/3
    Improved Power Word: Fortitude 2/2
    Focused Casting 1/1
    Mental Agility 2/5
    Mental Strength 5/5

    Holy Magic 31 Pts
    Holy Specialization 5/5
    Spiritual Healing 5/5
    Inspiration 4/5
    Subtlety 5/5
    Improved Healing 5/5
    Improved Prayer of Healing 2/2
    Master Healer 5/5

    PvE spec~
     
  16. Vantros of the Delerium

    Vantros of the Delerium Fledgling Freddie

    Shadow
    Spirit Tap Rank 5
    Blackout Rank 5
    Improved Shadow Word: Pain Rank 2
    Shadow Focus Rank 3
    Improved Psychic Scream Rank 2
    Improved Mind Blast Rank 5
    Mind Flay Rank 1
    Shadow Reach Rank 3
    Silence Rank 1
    Shadow Weaving Rank 5
    Vampiric Embrace Rank 1
    Darkness Rank 5
    Shadowform Rank 1
    Shadow Total: 38

    Holy Mastery
    Improved Renew Rank 3
    Holy Specialization Rank 2
    Spiritual Healing Rank 5
    Subtlety Rank 2
    Holy Total: 13

    Total
    Total Points Spent: 51 Level Required: 60

    thats my final spec atm im lvl 57 and it owns damage wise, not to mention my heals are insain atm.. flash heals critting for 1.9k etc
     
  17. Deacan

    Deacan Fledgling Freddie

    What server does Teh Seal play on?
     
  18. Asha

    Asha Fledgling Freddie

    Shadow Magic 21 Pts
    Spirit Tap 3/5
    Blackout 5/5
    Improved Shadow Word: Pain 2/2
    Improved Psychic Scream 2/2
    Improved Mind Blast 4/5
    Mind Flay 1/1
    Shadow Reach 3/3
    Silence 1/1

    Discipline 7 Pts
    Unbreakable Will 5/5
    Improved Power Word: Shield 2/3

    Holy Magic 23 Pts
    Improved Renew 5/5
    Holy Specialization 5/5
    Spiritual Healing 3/5
    Inspiration 5/5
    Improved Flash Heal 2/2
    Improved Prayer of Healing 2/2
    Spirit of Redemption 1/1

    ultimate pvp healer spec with utility from shadow line
     
  19. Phusion

    Phusion Fledgling Freddie

    omg, you guys have no clue or so :p martydom 2/2 is UBER, everytime a enemy does a crit on you, you get 6 seconds time of casting without being interrupted, i was fighting a rogue today and i could perma cast on him because he was doing so many crits.

    focused casting.... 8 sec moc.... that is indeed shit :p

    pve spec like loch atm, i think i will keep that spec for pvp too, haven't meet anything that could beat me with that spec. well, players a few lvls above me ofc.
     
  20. Lakashnik

    Lakashnik Fledgling Freddie

    he doesnt. he not playing yet. think hes trying to work out a plan of wht he would like to do before joining... but he should join dragonmaw.. :D

    (big fan of teh seel)
     
  21. Turamber

    Turamber Part of the furniture

  22. k9awya

    k9awya Fledgling Freddie


    if you use loch's spec for pvp forever you are just a noob.

    wait till 60. wait till you meet people who really know what they can do with their char.
     
  23. [TB] Benedictine

    [TB] Benedictine Fledgling Freddie

  24. old.Tohtori

    old.Tohtori FH is my second home

    Hehe. Nice to see a Seelist around :p

    YEah, that's the truth. Don't ownb it yet, them pre-order lines be a b*tch. Also need to wait a while for pre-paid cards, CC's don't like me :D

    But, i thank for all the advice, even though if i listened to it all i would be where i was when i started since everyone seems to counter someone elses point.

    So, where DOES it leave my poor uneducated behind? Playing it and learning the hard way. Well, should've known it's where it goes ;)
     

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