Pricing PC's

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old.Alex^

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Yo all, well after posting topics about help for my AMD K6-3 450 overclocking it etc,
I have decided I want a whole new PC, i'm gona sell this one, and get a brand new one

:)

So, what I would like all you nice people to do is:
Price up this list
Tell me where I can get the PC for that price
and anythin else, (like if something I have put in is shite)

Sorry that sounds a bit cheaky

:)

Thanks alot in advance

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PIII 800 & motherboard (Please tell me if Athalons are better cheaper etc)
128mg ram (pc 100? pc 133? I don't really have a clue)
Geforce 2 (that new one for £200 the gts 2 or somethin, oh and does it suport dvd films etc??)
20gig HD
SBlive! (best value for money one please)
12x DvD (or if it saves alot of money 8 or 6x)
CDR 8x8x
Floppy drive & case & power
15" monitor
56k modem
thouse class SB speakers
keyboard
mouse
etc etc

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Anythin else i have missed out please include for me

Thanks ALOT in advance

Cya all later

Alex^

:p
 
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old.Inshala

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These are rough guide (no vat) mate:

athlon 1Ghz £255
abit KT7 with RAID, mmmm nice.. £120
256 PC133 RAM £170 ish
30Gb fuji HD (7200rpm) £126
Case bout £30
Creative ge force 2 £167 (ouch)
SB Live! £39
Ricoh DVD/CDR/CDRW 24x6x4x4 (does the lot, part from playing the sixth sense DVD, still not worked that one out) £143
floppy £7
monitor 15" £77 17" £116 19" £182

Wots up ya old monitor, case, floppy, HD, etc? usually worth keeping hold of bits mate.

if ya after anything get in touch at loonybin@barrysworld.co.uk


[Edited by Inshala on 07-11-00 at 15:37]
 
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Xavier

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athlon 1Ghz £255
abit KT7 with RAID, mmmm nice.. £120
256 PC133 RAM £170 ish
30Gb fuji HD (7200rpm) £126
Case bout £30
Creative ge force 2 £167 (ouch)
SB Live! £39
Ricoh DVD/CDR/CDRW 24x6x4x4 (does the lot, part from playing the sixth sense DVD, still not worked that one out) £143
floppy £7
monitor 15" £77 17" £116 19" £182
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or for about the same amount you can have some decent kit, i.e.
Intel Pentium III 800E £137
ASUS CUSL2 £110
256 PC133 RAM £160 where I get it
IBM Deskstar 75GXP 46.1Gb UDMA100 £140 ish and a helluvalot quicker (7200rpm, 2mb cache)
Vasco Case £40 - tis worth the lil more
Geforce 2 GTS £165
SB Live Player 1024 Surround £37

rest of the bits are up2u, you can oc the pIII to about 1ghz with a decent alpha (pal 35T) and the coppermines are quicker than the AMD T-Birds, no arguments, I play wiv both and the intel are quicker, live with it...

As for cd/cdr/dvd prolly better to get one of the new plextor cdrw units for about £130-140 and buy seperate DVD, if nothing else 6th Sense is a top film

lemmie know about monitors, can get fujitsu 17" with sony tubes for under £100
 
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old.logic7

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Too bad you live in the UK...

1GHz AMD Athlon - $253
Abit KT7 - $123
512Mb RAM (2x256Mb DIMM PC133) - $198
60Gb Maxtor DMA66 - $206
Case w/300W PS - $45
VisionTek Geforce 2 - $152
SBLive Value - $40
Ricoh DVD/CDR/CDRW 24x6x4x4 - $208


If only you lived here...
 
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old.Alex^

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grr bloody americans :)

tar for help, you got any webys that can sells 'em?

btw, does the geforce suport dvd??
 
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Xavier

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Originally posted by logic7
Too bad you live in the UK...

1GHz AMD Athlon - $253
Abit KT7 - $123
512Mb RAM (2x256Mb DIMM PC133) - $198
60Gb Maxtor DMA66 - $206
Case w/300W PS - $45
VisionTek Geforce 2 - $152
SBLive Value - $40
Ricoh DVD/CDR/CDRW 24x6x4x4 - $208


If only you lived here...
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Don't worry lads, this guy is full of shit, just checked a few hardware sites and the going price on 256Mb PC133 is $310 so unless this guy is stealing it he's a blatant liar... i'm guessing that as he's an american dickweed on a british website he's more liar than thief

Xavier
 
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old.logic7

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Ok Mr. Dickhead Xavier... Check http://www.pricewatch.com for the latest in pricing. I'm quite sure that you'll see that the current price on 256Mb is $99. Therefore, 2x 256Mb DIMM PC133 memory = $198. If you would quit trying to suck your own d*ck for a minute you would see this to be the case.

You prosper not, when being an asshole.
 
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Xavier

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Well, that makes a little sense.. and I quote from the linked site:

Commodity Grade (i.e. bulk crap with an accpted failure rate) - something we don't have in the UK, consumer laws there 2 protect us and all...

$99.49

Open Market Grade (i.e. what we know as generic ram in the UK)

$164.49

their quality stuff is $200, over double that of the non-guaranteed shite, if ya don't believe me:

http://www.icentral.com/html/1stchoicememory/page767.html

by the way, you need CAS2 for athlons boxes, it's in the spec, so as the only CAS2 memory they list is the quality kit that'll be $400 for the ram...

if you don't believe it then read the above link, it's all there to those who can read... (explains a bit)

not only are you fucking stoopid but also a total cheesedick... I love it!!!




[Edited by Xavier on 07-11-00 at 20:01]
 
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Xavier

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Hmm... you're the kind of person who buys componentry without any research and complains when it isn't compatible, luckily the laws in the US mean that you have no right of recourse, which makes it all the better, after all a misinformed twat like yourself doesn't deserve anything better...
 
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old.logic7

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Let's see... It was Xavier that started the name calling in this post, I would say that he's the original asshole here.

To date, I have not had ANY hardware failure of any kind in the 11 years that I've been building PC's for people. This does not include the PC66 memory that I had running on a 95MHz bus (Matsonic ALi Alladin V chipset. Pentium 200mmx @285Mhz-3x95MHz), the 486/5x86 133MHz I had running at 200Mhz for a moment (50MHz bus), or the Cyrix p200MX that I tried to overclock to a true 233Mhz. They are the exceptions where I got bored and experimented with spare parts.


Now... I'm fully aware of what the spec is for a 133MHz FSB Athlon is. See, there is such a thing as Generic CAS2 RAM. Have you tried it yet??? Nope, but I have. So shut the fuck up you little 10th grade punk and recognize that your elders (me) may actually know something you don't. BTW, here in the US, if something you bought isn't compatible, send or take it back to where you got it from and get a refund or exchange it. See, we have consumer laws for this in the US (something else that this little bitch doesn't know). Hell, I can buy a Dreamcast today, play it for a month, and take it back for a full refund if I wanted to. Of course, you know nothing about that; piss-assed hoes like you know little, if anything.


One more thing... A lot of the "respected" OEM's use "commodity grade" RAM in the PC's they sell over-the-counter. It's just tested to make sure it works, then dropped into the pc. If it doesn't work, RA it and send it (along with the rest of the non-working shit) back to the manufacturer. They do it for memory, hard drives, processors, you name it. Just because the memory came from someone like Micron doesn't mean it's always top notch stuff.

Don't believe that the OEM's do that??? Back in '94 or '95 Packard Bell was sued by (if memory serves me right) the State of California for selling them a truck load of computers built with parts that were from old pc's and new stuff that wasn't top tier. It wasn't that the pc's didn't work (they did), but it's just the fact that they weren't made with "the good stuff".


The whole point of my original post was to compare pricing in the US vs GB. Going by the pricing on the site that you have pointed to, and given the current exchange rate of .6974, the memory on the site would be about 138 Pounds - Still less than the 160 you quoted.

One more thing, you dimwit... Upon looking at the specs of the memory offered at one of PriceWatch's retailers (Computer Super Sale), we find the memory to be CAS2. Of course, this is exactly what the Athlon needs and guess what? It's going for $99.


Such a loser...
 
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old.Alex^

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heh, lets get back to my future PC

does the geforce suport DvD etc?

:)

:p

:)
 
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old.logic7

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Yep. Of course, you'll need a DVD drive (in the list already)
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Xavier

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by the way, one of the only oem's to try and sell commodity grade ram in their PC's in the UK was ESCOM and they're real big now eh?

as for 10th grader that's an interesting appraisal, especcially if you had read any of the other threads on the forum, but I know it's difficult for ya...
 
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old.TUG

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Could everyone pls stop acting like babies?

Thx.
 
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old.logic7

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quite interesting... When I click on the same link:
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I get this:
ss2.jpg



Which, of course, leads to a list of retaliers that's selling RAM where Computer Super Sale clearly resides.Come on dude... You didn't even look at the other sites on the list did you? Only a moron wouldn't. I've clearly linked to one of the sites (CSS) that will sell you Generic CAS2 PC133 ram for $99.

Here's the url for the frame that it takes you to (in case you all want to try it out): http://www.pricewatch.com/1/33/1948-1.htm

Anyway, TUG's right. I've reduced myself to your level, my apologies to everyone else viewing this thread. You're beneath me Xavier, and will always stay that way. Always remember this: I didn't start this, you did.

[Edited by logic7 on 08-11-00 at 00:17]
 
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kryt

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Now now :)
Theres always wrong people, and always right people. It's always worth accepting there is never a true correct, as there are thousands and thousands of qualified and very good technical hardware people out there : I am among them.. and these people can tell you the different stories, which equate to the same outcome... the only bad thing in this story though, is when someone says something, can't back it up fully and stands by it, and refuses to be taken wrong. I won't step in the way too much though, it isn't the thread topic.
 
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bodhi

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I noticed an opportunity here to have my usual go at nVIDIA. /me rubs his hands with glee.

Yes a Geforce 2 will play DVD's. It just wont play them very well. The only decoding engines I've seen which can get anywhere near a set top box are Hollywood+ separate decoder cards or ATi's on-card iDCT set-up. Hence Id recommend either getting an external decoder card or swapping the Geforce 2 for an ATi Radeon 32Meg DDR (You may lose 5 fps in q3, but at least your DVD's wont look quite so bad....).

Id also recommend getting a separate DVD and CD-R drive. Not only are there likely to be reliability issues with the combi, but you can also do on the fly copies with the seperates.
 
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old.Listy

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Children children, arguing is bad-bullshit it is, why the fuck dont u just email the company and ask um.

jees, i dunno someppl just never fink before firing offa round of insults, kinda like well.....everyone including me!
kryten ur a greecy haired 20 year old on the dole bum!!!!;)

(he is too!!)
 
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stu

Guest
Originally posted by Bodhi
I noticed an opportunity here to have my usual go at nVIDIA. /me rubs his hands with glee.

Yes a Geforce 2 will play DVD's. It just wont play them very well. The only decoding engines I've seen which can get anywhere near a set top box are Hollywood+ separate decoder cards or ATi's on-card iDCT set-up. Hence Id recommend either getting an external decoder card or swapping the Geforce 2 for an ATi Radeon 32Meg DDR (You may lose 5 fps in q3, but at least your DVD's wont look quite so bad....).
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Yes but Bod, we both know that anyone who watches DVDs on their PC is an utter lamet, so give it up.
 
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bodhi

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Originally posted by Stu-
Yes but Bod, we both know that anyone who watches DVDs on their PC is an utter lamet, so give it up. [/B]
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Yes. I know this as well as you do. But seeing as Alex was asking about whether the Geforce 2 would play DVD's, I thought I'd answer.
 
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