Powerleveling...

[Wirey]

I find Powerleveling in such places as Modernagrav so booring now or a SM grp in Lair(Malmo)...

when i was a young troll and smurfling, i found it very much fun and interested XP'ing the Classic way... its just so booring pressing my no.1 button for PBAE in Moderna.. who agree's? they should be some classic Malmo grps tbh.. :/ i'm very glad NF Nerf'd the SM Passive pull.. hope we can do some more classic Leveling.. who agree's?

 

[Craparoni]

ok fine, but then I demand power arti levling, I can do both the hard way, noo way man!!!
aaah, feck it!!

 

[Leathas]

an idea : put a rule like "you can't gain any xp if you are 8(7?) lvls lower than the group's highest lvl char".That would solve it i believe. :touch:

 

[Brunore]

Just advertise the game better so more new people join, that would solve it.

I think that GOA had a game plan of x amount of servers with x amount on them at primetime, once that was met they stopped pimping the game as they were making the income that they want.

 

[Jaem-]

I like the times when I started the game, people actualy liked grouping up and exping etc, chatting away making new friends ingame etc, but that doesn't happen anymore, people just want a new fotm right here and right now without the time spent. :<

 

[DaggerElivager]

i lvl'd all thru from beta to few months ago and although i did take like 6 months to lvl my sb solo unbuffed i did enjoy meeting new people and chatting away, instead of PL crap which just annoys me and group'ing with my runie was fun even if groups werent fast aslong as you had nice people i didnt mind.

 

[Wirey]

People just Gweedy now

 

[Flimgoblin]

still level normally for the most part - 1.71 includes some more incentives to do that (better camp bonus and free levels over time) plus catacombs provides a whole load of places to xp up

 

[Wirey]

ye but who says many ppl will be around then? i know i prolly will but i think WoW is gonna steal our players!!

 

[Bellona]

ye but who says many ppl will be around then? i know i prolly will but i think WoW is gonna steal our players!!

replace wow with any other mmorpg that have been released after daoc came out, everyone predicts daoc's death...

daoc will only die from growing old/boring :wub:

 

[Buffer]

I agree with the first poster, although I dont really play now.
There is something to be said for the sheer level of panic/adrenalin rush that it involved.
Chasing a mob on a healer, pulls that have gone bad, fighting for your lives and so on. Much more fun than standing with 3 sms going boom every 2 secs, no challenge. While we are at it lets not forget the fights over the drops that people salvage/destroy now.

Bring back the good old days.

 

[Wirey]

i say they give us a server for all europien players French/German/English - all pounded into 1 Server, I mean a real one with no SI zones no ToA Zones no NF ZONES FGS... and last of all NO SC/Alc - Makes every one uber tbh server with no Ubers = Fair Play!

 

[Flimgoblin]

yeha gifv server with just jordheim camelot and tir na nog!

 

[Rulke]

Levelling isn't the problem, however you do it, whether its 20-50 in a day in moderna, with a set group or just solo/duo. There's more than enough bonuses been added already to make it a fairly painless process.
However once you ding 50, the problem begins, and that problem is called ToA.
Most people you ask would like to start a new toon, probably in a new realm/server. But the No1 reason they dont? : ToA

 

[Buffer]

Rulke that was not his point. Its an issue of how the game is played. You are old school, you should know how we fought for evey bit of xp. Now people sit in <insert xp site> to get 50 , while others power level

 

[Gold]

Rulke that was not his point. Its an issue of how the game is played. You are old school, you should know how we fought for evey bit of xp. Now people sit in <insert xp site> to get 50 , while others power level

I think he was making the point that you still have to fight for every bit of xp...just not the xp on your char, but rather the xp on your char's artifacts. (please correct me if I am wrong)

ToA is a timesink that is even worse than the levelgrind...well, if you want the nice artifacts..you don't have to have them, but then again...you don't have to be level 50 to rvr either.

/yell Level 20 bonedancer without armor lfg!

Hmm...well...maybe not...

 

[Esselinithia]

I like the times when I started the game, people actualy liked grouping up and exping etc, chatting away making new friends ingame etc, but that doesn't happen anymore, people just want a new fotm right here and right now without the time spent. :<

tbh. the powerleveling leads to a bigger problem: Level 50 characters who know nothing about how to play that character except from videos and getting owned, so they invest more for better SC, artis, but when someone gets better than them, by learning the character they play (even if it has a gimped spec) from ground up and play it well, they think that is better so they start PLing the new FoTM, they are so busy they can't help each other, and they whine how much time it takes, and ones who don't PL new alts everytime but play with what they have and learned well are still sucessfull even if they aren't fotm. People who help each other, and do learn how to do things and how to think about speccs are better.

1 button spreadheal clerics helped to get ML5 and get best artis, etc wonder, why mythic made level 50 heal, and why sometimes a gimped 50 rejuv specc. works when theirs don't. Wonder why? Three reasons:

• The level 50 heal is the fastest non insta heal
• The level 50 heal has the best healing for mana and healing for time ratio
• Sometimes you DO nood the extra amount of healing

For the mentally challenged "I copy the FoTM" people who failed to think about it: Level 50 heal might heal too much in some times, but what about when you need to have MoC on? Oh your nice level 42 rejuv makes big heals slow and ineffective, and with MoC effectiveness reduction (not to mention ress sicknes, rvr res sickness in addition to this) your small heals do virtually nothing.

If you do your math, and learn which heal is best for which situation, etc you will be better. But to learn your class well, you should practice. Both traditional XPing situations and BGs are designed to teach you how to play the character you are playing. If you know an armsman you won't play a cleric so you have to learn by playing it in these situations. BGs are here for this, and not only for leveling in thid only.

 

[Awarkle]

The problem is when you go from 1. to 50 the first time its new and you play lots for that little bit of extra exp. You want to explore and go to different places you dont mind dying and your having fun with your friends.

When you do it a second time you sort of know the deal you know where the groups hang out and you go there you join with other alts or even new players and you will generally be able to go up faster than you did before beause your not looking around for your exp spots or where quests are.

the third time you really want to be motoring along you want the best group probbly a buff bot and probaly not be pestered by noob players who dont know how to power play.

Exping is fun when its with your friends or even new players but i always found when i leveled my first 50 that alts went out the window

"why play an alt when you got a lvl 50 to play instead"

Well nowadays i dont mind the exp grind but i find myself soloing all the time GOA need to really sell this game around about now for christmas and tbh thats whats going to hurt more .

Pve can be fun but when your in a balanced fun group

IE support tanks and casters

PVE isnt fun when its Focus pulling or Fins/modern/ac type groups pulling the same mobs for hours isnt fun and thats why catacombs going to be interesting because i dont think its going to be like that.

 

[Esselinithia]

Pve can be fun but when your in a balanced fun group

IE support tanks and casters

PVE isnt fun when its Focus pulling or Fins/modern/ac type groups pulling the same mobs for hours isnt fun and thats why catacombs going to be interesting because i dont think its going to be like that.

I think it isn't about AC or not AC, focus pulling or not focus pulling. One of my friends joined a guild and he had to prove himself, and he asked his friends what to do for this. Finally my idea got implemented, even if it looked like an AC group even if it was bigger, and we helped a few people to level with it. What was in the AC group? We hunted all nameds, then camped crystal garden entrance debating if we should try to get in the crystal cave, since our numbers weren't enough and not everyone was 50 yet, we had good company and leveled.

The friend who haven't knew much about AC camps before but cared to learn a bit of them for fun loves one of the mostly ignored camps, and we like the fun. Who said you can't make exping fun? I think people should try to make exping more fun and not more fast. And getting exp in BGs is good example, getting XP in TOA lands is another example. XP groups in RvR lands and spoting enemies coming is another example that even gives you bonus xp, should I tell more?

 

[Darzil]

And not tried it much, but didn't the last patch make it so a level 20 grouped with level 50's can contribute and actually hit the enemies. So no reason for people not to be trying to do stuff whilst being powerlevelled now, and learning their characters.

Darzil

 

[Rulke]

Rulke that was not his point. Its an issue of how the game is played. You are old school, you should know how we fought for evey bit of xp. Now people sit in <insert xp site> to get 50 , while others power level

While I agree that was fun the 1st time round (remember our mid 20s level race? ) if I had had to level like that again for the 2nd, 3rd....20th time, I would never had rolled another toon.
The point I was tryng to make about ToA is its putting all the PvE back into making a toon that PLing takes out, much much more in fact.