poor students

[Testin da Cable]

you're never free of them
as read on ananova. regrades happened to me once with exams I took. nothing really happened but wondering about it through a summer vacation was a bit of a bitchor heh

 

[Furr]

Great all i need

 

[old.ignus]

bloody students!

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

The funny thing is that a lot of unis around the country are already over subscribed etc.

So where are all the NEW ones gonna go???

(I say put 'em under the stairs).

 

[~YuckFou~]

convert the prisons?

 

[doh_boy]

Slave labour?

 

[Testin da Cable]

feed them to the higher years?

 

[prime1]

I think a far worse fate should await them, make them work.

 

[Sir Frizz]

What if they already work part time...?

 

[Testin da Cable]

double time

 

[wolfeeh]

bah

too many ppl go to uni these days anyway.. 80% of them i imagine do these weird fucking courses that are no use to anyone but supposedly they learn "life skills" like time management, coping with deadlines etc... at least that's what some employers i've spoken to told me...

what the fuck IS the point like?

you can do degrees in architectural stained glass fgs! (well i suppose that might actually get you a job doing stained glass, so that's a bad example, but ya-know-what-i-mean)

 

[Nos-]

Everyone should go to university

 

[dysfunction]

Originally posted by Nos-
Everyone should go to university

And who exactly is going to pay for that??

Anyhow, there is a need for unskilled labour to do work that machines are unable to do untill such time as we have progressed in technology...

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

The same way it's paid for now....

 

[dysfunction]

Originally posted by Scooba Da Bass
The same way it's paid for now....

Not everyone can afford to send their children to Uni and the Government certainly cant spare any more money...

 

[prime1]

You dont need to go to uni to do skilled labour, university rarely actually teaches you anything useful. All it says to an employer is "i have the ability to learn". Some degrees obviosuly are worthwhile, science, medical, maths, law etc, but most people stupid useless degrees like philosophy and theology, and the History of Art.

Even Computer science degrees are fairly useless, unless you are looking at something more extreme, arhcitecture or advanced algorithmic, or AI programming maybe, but the bog standard courses, uselss to an emplyer, in some cases it can even work against you. For IT its experience that counts, even if its fairly low level.

I used to know someone who ran a very successful consultancy and he rarely hired graduates, because everythign they have been tought, all their "practical" experience was learnt in perfect conditions within a laboratory. Subsequently they had no idea how to do it in the real world, and would set up or reset office networks to these "lab" conditions, subsequently the network would fail and hed get called in to fix it. blah blah blah, degrees arnt the be all and end all ;p

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Originally posted by dysfunction


Not everyone can afford to send their children to Uni and the Government certainly cant spare any more money...

Then it should be paid for out of taxes, Uni should be available to everyone who wants it.

 

[WPKenny]

I think Uni should be free to go to but I also think it should be tougher to get into.

Uni's a fucking expensive place to go to right now. I can see Damini coming out of Uni with over 20 grand's worth of debt.

How fucking long is that going to be hanging over her head?

I fucked up uni and came out with 2 grand's worth of debt which I'm STILL paying off despite having a reasonably respectible wage. AND I had a job while I was at uni, my parents paid my rent and brought me "food parcels".

Students are no longer the spongers they once were. For a person to go to Uni, it means their parents are forking out for certain things, the student has to get a part time job to fork out for things, they have to get loans to live and they have to pay accomodation costs.

Students may get discounts in shops or whatever but it's hardly a substitute now is it?

Ultimately the aim of uni is to come out with the ability to get a better job (or even just the self confidence that uni can give you) and earn a higher wage and so pay the government more taxes.

I think students have a real shit of a time cos people still have the old fashioned view that students get everything for free. So not only to they have all the debts piling up, they have the grief off people who don't know what they're talking about and are told to "get a fucking job you lazy arse student scum!".

 

[whipped]

They should all come to Luton uni. We're all really nice here.

 

[Nos-]

Staffordshire uni is ok as well :]

I'm off for my first lecture in 18 months now actually!

Bye bye!

 

[kameleon]

some manchester unis are oversubscribed at the moment they are having to provided sussidides accomodation in the Imperial hotel in Manchester normal nightly rate =105 quid for students 10 per night.

i agree with scooba university should be free for anyone with the inclination and ability and it should be payed for out of taxes. The country will benefit from it in the long run from income tax from graduates which are certainly a lot higher than from a manual worker sitting at a bench in a factory all day for minimum wage.

Where are the jobs going to come from I hear you ask? Foreign companies will be attracted to this country by a skilled workforce

 

[Mellow-]

Originally posted by WPKenny
I can see Damini coming out of Uni with over 20 grand's worth of debt.

hahahahahahahahaha! Gutted. A lot of people just don't understand how to spend and save their cash these days. I've never been in debt and I love it.

 

[WPKenny]

Yeah, but you're also a twat so I guess that's foot in the shit for you already.

 

[Testin da Cable]

I know how it is Kenny mate. I left with a paltry 8 grand debt, but anita, a good friend of mine, has well over 40k iirc :|

 

[dysfunction]

Originally posted by Mellow-


hahahahahahahahaha! Gutted. A lot of people just don't understand how to spend and save their cash these days. I've never been in debt and I love it.

Did you go to Uni?

 

[(Shovel)]

Originally posted by kameleon
some manchester unis are oversubscribed at the moment they are having to provided sussidides accomodation in the Imperial hotel in Manchester normal nightly rate =105 quid for students 10 per night.

I'll vouch for that seeing as I'm one of the UMIST students STILL in a hotel. It's ridiculous. It's made worse cause while everyone else has met upwards of 8 flat mates on a daily basis I've met about 5 people in freshers week and a few more today at lectures. It's additionnally worrying as - being the second most unemotional person I know - I've started having mood swings (of the non female variety) and general depressive symptons. It'll be alright, I'm rational enough to know that, but it is the most stressful and infuriating week in recent memory.
£105 a night 4* hotel or not, I didn't come to Manc for that. Everyone I speak to says "oh so it's not that bad then" when I describe the hotel, but to live out of it when all your friends at other unis are meeting new people on day one, it hurts.

 

[kameleon]

It's ok mate youll get over it its just teething troubles.

get yourself down to the students union bar and have a drink.

you're better off getting in private accomodation anyway HOR sucks

theres plenty of private student accomodation in the area from 30 quid a week

 

[Mellow-]

Originally posted by WPKenny
Yeah, but you're also a twat so I guess that's foot in the shit for you already.

How does that make me a twat? You know nothing about me.

Originally posted by dysfunction
Did you go to Uni?

At the time I considered going, but I just thought that uni wasn't right for me and I was against having all that debt which was also a major point in my decision.

 

[Furr]

so it now seems my l33t public school education does me more harm than good! great!

http://education.guardian.co.uk/universityaccess/story/0,10670,802020,00.html

I hate this country...

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Not supporting Mellow, but 20K is a frankly ludicrous amount of debt, unless you're doing something stupidly expensive like law, or extra long like Medicine