Poor clueless SBs...

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old.chesnor

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I play a cleric. I wear chain, have loads of AF and a nice set of buffs. I also have a self only +4.6dps dmg add buff and a 50dmg(ish) DD on a 30s timer. I also have an insta heal.

When you see me (and I see you) I kinda stop and stand there looking dumb, I'M JUST KIDDING THOUGH I'M NOT REALLY A DUMBASS, YOU ARE!!! for attacking me you muppets.

Sheesh, do you think I was born yesterday. "Oh look, a shadowblade. I know, I'll rest here!"

Well, anyway, Thanks for the RP !

PS. the only time you do kill me is when there's like 4 of you. Nice..

PPS. the only SBs that even come close to taking me down are SZ with high env. The rest of you blow goats.
 
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swords

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heh

oh?
So the Sword spec sb's blow goats???/
May have to ask Krow to pay you a visit you wil change your mind.....
 
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aseli

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Am I the only one that thinks Chesnor is a bit sad?
 
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old.chesnor

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Bring it on Swords. I eat critblades for breakfast, dinner and tea.

I wasn't boasting about how leet I am btw. I was just pointing out that truly skilled SBs won't try to take chain wearing insta mezzing/healing/DDing clerics down. Thats not what SBs are for.

Whenever they attack me I laugh. You lot should be chasing the infils and shades around, not trying to to kill classes you can't.

Now, shaman. I truly fear shaman.... /waves to Swampthing
 
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old.Charonel

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it's very very very rare for my minstrel to lose a 1v1 with any shadowblade, but it has nothing to do with me outdamaging them, because i dont, not by any stretch, it's because i allways use healer pets, now i have 457 hp (roughly, could be a few points higher, not much though) but the reason i dont lose is because with a healer pet you can basically bump that up to where every the hell you want it to be, doesnt matter how much damage they do, but how FAST they do it, if they can out damage me faster than the pet can heal, then i die, but they dont :)

without a pet? ie a straight 1v1 meelee? died EVERY time exept once, but although yellow con i think he was several levels lower, he just didnt hit like the usual shadowblade (not a zerker either, was using a big sword).

simple fact is that shadowbaldes are damn good at what they do, but so are minstrels, it's what makes it such a fun fight :)
 
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old.Bubble

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no offence swords but you wouldn't stand a chance againt a cleric who know how to play there class

Your PA would not hit for over 150....most clerics have 550+ hps
they have a insta heal that heals for 250ish
insta mez(PA, garrote mez, heal heal stun smite smite smite)
damage add to make them deal an okay ammount of damage

the only class who have ever stand a chance against my cleric was a Skald(insta DD's and they have a mez too)
 
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old.chesnor

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I soloed a SZ last night. I saw her in the water, swam to land and waited there (I knew she would attack).

All my instas were up, can't remember what opening she did, but I was DoTed and diseased when I mezzed. Stepped back, cured posion and disease, stunned, smite, smite until she meleed. She evaded lots and hit HARD but as I'm mostly specced smite the dmg add and dd shouts wore her down eventually. I had to use insta heal and was on about 1/4hp when she died. Was a cracking fight.

Critblades may have the front loaded dmg, but dont hit hard enough after that to cause me problems. I can generally always cure the poisons/disease and maybe heal up after I mezz them. If mezz is resisted I;m in trouble though ;)

This thread was not about gloating. Its just that Thidranki is swarming with n00b assassins who seem to think they can kill everything they fight. They can't :p
 
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alexe

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At lv 50 every sb will own u

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old.chesnor

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Well, yeah I do need RP. Since I get precisely 0 for the 1543 resses I do most nights when I visit Thidranki. Generally the only RP I get is when SBs try to kill me or I run with the zerg and smite a few d0rfs :)
 
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swords

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hmm

Did i say i would stand a chance?
im one level lower than most other peeps in Thidranki i was talking about Krow when he's on.

I have seen him take down Plate wearers like a knife through butter.
feck knows how he does it.
Might ask him how he's speced....

And i only attack Clerics with a friend...
 
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old.Bubble

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Originally posted by alexe
At lv 50 every sb will own u

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Show me a 50 SB who can kill a 50 smite cleric :)
 
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old.Maronan

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Originally posted by old.Charonel
it's very very very rare for my minstrel to lose a 1v1 with any shadowblade, but it has nothing to do with me outdamaging them, because i dont, not by any stretch, it's because i allways use healer pets, now i have 457 hp (roughly, could be a few points higher, not much though) but the reason i dont lose is because with a healer pet you can basically bump that up to where every the hell you want it to be, doesnt matter how much damage they do, but how FAST they do it, if they can out damage me faster than the pet can heal, then i die, but they dont :)
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Oh yes, wouldn't I know... I was in that excact position a few days ago... think it was even against you. :)

Saw a lone minstrel running around with a druid seer. Both blue con to me.... Ok, he was obviously running around to get attacked by a shadowblade, so I checked the surroundings for infils/scouts ... none around.

Ok, then wait for the perfect time to attack, used Backstab II instead of PA to get the stuns in, Got Thigh Cut in as well, Garrote, Minstrel down to less than 10%, ... and then the healer pet started healing, and my endurance was getting low. Well, I fought on and took the oncoming death like a Norseman. At this time, my chances where slim. My end was down, I hit for twice the damage per hit as the minstrel, but the healing druid seer pet healed it all up. ... and after quite awhile, I got killed by this blue minstrel and his blue pet. Hmm

I calculated my total damage output afterwards, and found it to be at around 1400+ ... and mind you, this was on a solo minstrel at a max level of 22. Pretty amazing, huh? :)

Great work done by that minstrel, thumbs up for that! :)

Now, what I would do next time is to PA/Garrote the druid seer to disable it asap... then turn on the minstrel. That would probably give me the edge needed to win, as the minstrel wouldn't be able to melee me, although he could escape me with sleep spells.
 
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Originally posted by alexe
At lv 50 every sb will own u

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LMAO, I still eat SBs for breakfast :)
 
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Spamb0t

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so what makes an SB who attacks a cleric a 'n00b' ?

if i see some single cleric or whatever class when im stealthing around with my thid SB i will attack ... im not there to stay stealthed all day long.. so what if i die? its not a long trip back and atleast i got a fight.. ALOT better then not doing anything.. so does that make me a 'n00b' just because i wanna fight ??? oh man.. it aint easy to not be a 'n00b' these days..
 
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old.Charonel

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Originally posted by old.Maronan


Oh yes, wouldn't I know... I was in that excact position a few days ago... think it was even against you. :)

Saw a lone minstrel running around with a druid seer. Both blue con to me.... Ok, he was obviously running around to get attacked by a shadowblade, so I checked the surroundings for infils/scouts ... none around.

Ok, then wait for the perfect time to attack, used Backstab II instead of PA to get the stuns in, Got Thigh Cut in as well, Garrote, Minstrel down to less than 10%, ... and then the healer pet started healing, and my endurance was getting low. Well, I fought on and took the oncoming death like a Norseman. At this time, my chances where slim. My end was down, I hit for twice the damage per hit as the minstrel, but the healing druid seer pet healed it all up. ... and after quite awhile, I got killed by this blue minstrel and his blue pet. Hmm

I calculated my total damage output afterwards, and found it to be at around 1400+ ... and mind you, this was on a solo minstrel at a max level of 22. Pretty amazing, huh? :)

Great work done by that minstrel, thumbs up for that! :)

Now, what I would do next time is to PA/Garrote the druid seer to disable it asap... then turn on the minstrel. That would probably give me the edge needed to win, as the minstrel wouldn't be able to melee me, although he could escape me with sleep spells.
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hehe, i remember that one! was during the time when i still saw orange shadowblades in thid :) that was one of the more enjoyable fights i remember having :) i got ganked bye the little kobbie shadowblade who joined in the fight towards the end, but i killed the orange norse shadowblade (you) and then did some decent damage to the kobbie (he MUST have thought i was gonna run when i saw him running from the hpk area :)) before he killed me, was a laugh :)

shadowbaldes hit too hard though :) but there's little more satisfying than seeing all their cs damage get taken away again mid fight :D

P.S. it made a change to fight someone who didnt run for once, i get sick of having to save my insta stun for when they hit sprint :D good one!
 
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old.Xanthian

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Dear Lord please save me, I have to play along side this goon with my baby Minstrel :rolleyes:
 
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old.chesnor

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Originally posted by Spamb0t
so what makes an SB who attacks a cleric a 'n00b' ?

if i see some single cleric or whatever class when im stealthing around with my thid SB i will attack ... im not there to stay stealthed all day long.. so what if i die? its not a long trip back and atleast i got a fight.. ALOT better then not doing anything.. so does that make me a 'n00b' just because i wanna fight ??? oh man.. it aint easy to not be a 'n00b' these days..
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I see your point Spambot. But surely you don't try to kill everyone you see just so you don't get bored. The art of the SB is picking your fights so you don't die, not just randomly suiciding on plate wearers or chars with instas because you're spoiling for a rumble.

Also as an SB (and I saw you killing lots of Albs last night with Magiker, grats) you are spoilt for infils to kill, since this is the most popular Alb class in Thidranki.

Anyway, my cleric Lyniel has capped RP now, I am still logged in Thid, but one more death without a res will send me back to Prydwen Bridge forever :(

Still its been fun.
 
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old.Morphus

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LOL, gotta love overpowered Albions admitting how Uber there class is. Clerics are UBER and thats a well known fact but they do have some much needed up and coming nerfs (Insta Mezz on 30 min timer and dropped a shit load of damage tables for smite I believe). I dont like to see any class getting nerfed but why should a support class be able to kill light tanks etc? My 50 skald has been owned by 50 clerics in real RVR, which just aint on tbh.

As for you laughing when SB's attack you!! I've killed a shit load of clerics in the 24BG. And my PA is more like 300 on chain (450+ on cloth) not 150 lol! High CS with a nice slow 6.0spd 2h Axe with disease (reduces you insta heal by 1/2), then switch to 1h and shield with either snare or poison and its bye bye cleric. After I get PA chain (stun) it will be even easier.

With nerfs and RA's (most other classes will also have Insta heals) I think you will find you your role in the game will be one of support.
 
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old.chesnor

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Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. I don't /laugh in daoc, thats childish and annoying. I chuckle iirl though. Because in a 1on1 situation any SB is not going to take me down, unless I get really unlucky with mezz failing (which has yet to happen).

And although I played a smite cleric, I really think they are overpowered in this patch. In fact, I'd say the smite cleric is the most overpowered class in the game right now, not because smite is so powerful, but because they can do almost anything.

In PvE I can solo yellow + undead orange. I can easily get grouped because I can heal and buff. So I can solo well, and am in demand for groups. PvE is dead easy for clerics. Contrast this to the Mid Healer, who has powerful CC but cannot solo at all.

In RvR (especially BGs) it is almost impossible to take down a pre-nerf smite cleric who is alert 1on1. I can insta mezz and sprint away from any fight I don't think I can win. I also have a 6s (I think) stun so I can mezzz, withdraw, stun then smite before I have to melee. Each smite hits yellow cons for 120dmg (ish) and I have an insta DD shout that hits for around 50 every 30s. I also have a self only dmg add @ 4.6dps. Oh, and an insta heal on a 10min timer for around 40% of hp. I have 577hp buffed and around 350af buffed. That is quite a package tbh, and I am amazed at just how good this char is.

Shame about the nerf, but speaking as one who has played 24lvls PvE and capped out in Thidranki, I can safely say smite clerics are truly uber until (and arguably after) the nerf.

Oh and Morphus, there is no unwritten rule that support classes can't kill tanks. My Healer killed tanks in real RvR on several occasions. Its not that hard if you understand your character well and know how tanks fight (most just /stick and whack). The trick is using all of your tricks to wear tanks down, insta heals, insta mezz etc..etc.. Even if you can't kill them, you should never let them kill you. This game isn't rock, paper, scissors. A skilled player at the controls of any class stands a chance against a muppet at the controls of an uber class.....
 
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old.Charonel

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Originally posted by old.chesnor
A skilled player at the controls of any class stands a chance against a muppet at the controls of an uber class.....
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quite true, you only need to see the really good high level players who have sold their accounts... their characters are now treated with utter lack of concern by the opposing realms, because the new owners are, for want of a better word, "shite" :)

if you know what your character can do, and you !!!!THINK!!!! about how to use it properly and not just follow tutorials by rota then you can do wonders, nowhere in any tutorial did i see about healer pets being worthwile in rvr, NOWHERE, i got that lesson from anlysing my solo pve exploits and THINKING about what i could do in various rvr situations, in rvr to flourish you must make use of everything to win the fight (if your aiming to win that is, if your just relaxing then fine, up to you, but if that's the case then you wont be trying too much anyway, and wont be bothered about death :), not that winning is taxing, i find beating assassins very relaxing, because it's enjoyable).

now with minstrels that also means pets, if you just listen to most people in daoc then you'll make the mistake of also thinking that pets are useless rvr tools, but if you just think how to use them then you will find that they aren't, the healer pet has been mentioned well enough already :) but not many non pet users (of course this is hardly an unknown technique, but the amount of people i've seen just stunned when i used this scares me :)) know about using them to make sure assassins NEVER escape if they attack the resting people at the back of the army by using it to chase them while stealthed, but it's a more than valid use, if people would just think more they'd play their characters far better, i am, for instance, the ONLY! minstrel i have ever seen in thid, that get's druid seers for the reasons mentioned, most minstrels just can't be bothered juggling the pet and mezzes (or if they do, they can't seem to see further than using a pet like a damage add), and speed etc... (this is trickier than it'd look, one song cancles the other etc.., you have to really practice to get good at this) they think (as my hibbie guildies also think :)) that pets nuteralize almost all minstrel abilities, but it's not true, it's just bad players not being able to use all their abilities at once to maximise the situation because they dont learn the characters properly, no minstrel should ever be in the position of finding themselvs unable to mezz a target because they have a pet, if they are in that situation then they're playing wrong and havent learned enough about the class and how to use it. but i've seen many minstrels who claim the pet charming is worthless because it stops them using their "proper" tools!

basically, if everyone played their characters very very very well, then it'd come down to class balence issues, but that isnt the case, too many people who just aren't good at it (this isnt an i am uber post, just stating facts, everyone must have seen enemies who just didnt manage to kill them because they didnt play right, even when you thought that you didnt stand a chance etc...)
 
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andrilyn

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Just want to say its not impossible for a SB to take down a Cleric.
Just put that disease poison on your sword and poison on the other, makes those insta heals pointless.
For more advice about how to take down a cleric, you can just ask Sticky :D
 
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old.chesnor

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Originally posted by andrilyn
Just want to say its not impossible for a SB to take down a Cleric.
Just put that disease poison on your sword and poison on the other, makes those insta heals pointless.
For more advice about how to take down a cleric, you can just ask Sticky :D
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Insta mezz, cure disease, cure poison, stun, smite, smite.


NEXT!
 
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SilverHood

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purge?

And what if your insta has been used already? :rolleyes:
 
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old.chesnor

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Purge?

/coughs politely and points out this is the BGs...

And my insta mezz is on a 30s timer until nerf. If its down, its soon back up :)
 
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SilverHood

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/em points out that the remark about sticky was made about lvl 50

Shame my skald is only lvl 24

He eats orange minstrels for breakfast, unstealthed infils and scouts too

Can't beat tanks yet... but i'm xping

Then clerics will be my snack :D
 
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Dook_Pug

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I solo'd obscene amounts of Clerics on Shimmering in Thid...
 
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