PLZ teach me not to flame PLZ help me here

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eneq

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I wrote this



"Well this post is ment to be a serious discussion.
So as starter of the topic i say this.

No bad language
No spamming hello to peeps.
No insults.
No pointing fingers. (like OMG you stupid)
No posting if not discussing the topic (Soz Novamir no trolling).


Oki heres the story from a DO eyes. BTW plz read whole post.

This morning after Servern been down there was some Keeps unclaimed.
1 of them was crau.

On as someone said " Crau unclaimed"
And making a /gc who revealed 10 DO memebrs online.
WEll we said "lets get and Claim Crau ?"

On /as then we heard
"we claiming it" from Wuren i beleive
Quick check on LA members and we noticed only 6 or maybe 7. Not 8.

WEll we packed our shit togheter to DL
And waited there until 8 in FG DO.
We saw LA there and they was just 3 from start and at end maybe 5 or 6.
Checked once again /who arian and now 9 members but 1 in bri leith and 1 somewhere else.

But off they run. And we in close pursuit.

We thinking. hmmm they have alts at crau ? But then remember, Cant b, LA dont allow alts (?)

Well we get behind due to oos etc.

To make the story short we arrive at Crau and runs to lord.
Up the stairs and we c LA there.
Thinking ooh well they dont have 8 members we claim.
(LA claim relogging etc etc But we checked /who arian and didnt c 8 members in emain so)

WE get the keep. and the arguing begins...

"we had reloggers" Counting again and yes they only 7 but up comes a char from stairs,,,,,,, Tankster i think maybe wrong.
Strange place to relogg..

And when checking closer i noticed that...hmmm wait a minute...Sirene she LA ? and Dexa also LA ?

At this point LA spamming Twinkies alot.

We decide to release control due to spamming. Not worth the hassle in some members view.

I asked LA if Sirene and dexa was LA forever or just fro the claim.. And Wuren says just for the claim..

So lets get down to questions.
1. Laralyn claimed that LA should have keep because they said so on /AS.
I think thats rather stupid way really due to all guilds not in CF allience.
And if we go b that rule the fastest typer wins keeps....

2. LA was there first. But then again it wasnt "LA" really. It was 6 LA and 2 outsiders. IF 2 guilds race for a keep to claim Shouldnt the Guild with 8 own members and claim first have claim rights ?

(it was clearly a race or why did LA invite outsiders to join for 5 min when thay had atm 9 members online) (and they had noticed a FG DO assembling in DL or else they blind)

2b. If it goes that first guild memebr in lord room gets claim right then 2 bards with end adn twist run fast as hell and claim right and then sit and wait for rest to get there. Or even logg an alt in and claim rights.



I think that first full guildgroup gets claimrights. If no else guild want to claim at given time then its np inviting other peeps in guild just for the invite.



Okie Now we just need a LA member that was there to respond and tell us how they saw this episode.
Then we can discuss.

BTW this is seen from my eyes so not whole story, and maybe missed some. So plz fill up the gaps.


BTW this is only in matter of hibernia keep thats unclaimed btw. I think the guild that brings rams and do most work on keeps have claimrights otherwise.."


Many claiming this to b Flaming LA.
And as a reasonable person i dont want it to happen again.

I read it 2-3 times and i really need help with where i flamed LA.

This is a seriuos pledge for help. PLZ HELP ME !!!!

Quote me and tell me where the most burning flames are so i can think about it next time i post.


PLZ PLZ


BTW i really apologise to LA if the above post hurted LA in any way. Wasnt meant to b a flame.
BUT the replies to flaming peeps from LA on other thread still stands.
 
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Amadon

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Originally posted by eneq
(Soz Novamir no trolling).
flaming nova :p

We thinking. hmmm they have alts at crau ? But then remember, Cant b, LA dont allow alts (?)
in the RvR guilds' current defensive state of mind that could be seen as a flame on their recruiting policy

(LA claim relogging etc etc But we checked /who arian and didnt c 8 members in emain so)
that's implying that LA were lying

Strange place to relogg..
again implying they're lying

And when checking closer i noticed that...hmmm wait a minute...Sirene she LA ? and Dexa also LA ?
attacking their integrity as above

At this point LA spamming Twinkies alot.
implying judgement about what they were saying and the manner in which they were saying it

We decide to release control due to spamming. Not worth the hassle in some members view.
as above

So lets get down to questions.
1. Laralyn claimed that LA should have keep because they said so on /AS.
I think thats rather stupid way really due to all guilds not in CF allience.
And if we go b that rule the fastest typer wins keeps....
insulting Laralyn by saying her claim is stupid

You can read offense into anything really, those things are just the easiest that I picked out. Would probably be better to get Tyka or Xanthian to explain though :)

I think the main problem was that your post was seen to be a whine, due to you mentioning the circumstances in which your questions arose. If you wanted your questions answered clearly, then you should've asked them as is without mentioning your own particular experience.
 
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Arnor

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why bother? someone will take it anywhoo anytime soon, dc is after all the ping-pong keep.


and after all your /who'ing&stuff, did it ever occur to you that someone in LA might be anon?
 
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congin

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Don't read thrugh every letter in the post but as ypu said it you never informed LA that you where already gathering to claim it when they said on /as they the would do it. It would have stopped ppl from getting angry on eachother i think. A little atleast...
 
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Tobold

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well, firstly if they said they would claim it in alliance, you should let them.
with your /who LA, maybe some were anon?
And maybe they would do a much better job at defending a keep anyway, seeing as they are in emain so much
 
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eneq

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Re: Re: PLZ teach me not to flame PLZ help me here

Originally posted by Amadon

flaming nova :p

in the RvR guilds' current defensive state of mind that could be seen as a flame on their recruiting policy

that's implying that LA were lying

again implying they're lying

attacking their integrity as above

implying judgement about what they were saying and the manner in which they were saying it
as above

insulting Laralyn by saying her claim is stupid

You can read offense into anything really, those things are just the easiest that I picked out. Would probably be better to get Tyka or Xanthian to explain though :)

I think the main problem was that your post was seen to be a whine, due to you mentioning the circumstances in which your questions arose. If you wanted your questions answered clearly, then you should've asked them as is without mentioning your own particular experience.

a intilligent post as always amadon. Thx

aye my second post much better i think but how many replied to that ?
 
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Eleasias

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you're so full of shit it spills over no matter what you do sorry :/ (<- feels like starting another flame)
 
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eneq

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Originally posted by Eleasias
you're so full of shit it spills over no matter what you do sorry :/ (<- feels like starting another flame)

Soz Eleas cant really help you with flaming.
Looking at you and then thinking about the fin group makes me pity you and the way you play this game really.

The big and sad part is that you dont even think you did wrong.
Or even apoligize for your behavior. In your own words..."Feck the realm so long as i have fun"
1 of the reasons i really cant care less what you saying...
Another is the Fin group incident...

I can understand Wuren not wanting to have you as Co-GM.
 
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Wuren

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Originally posted by eneq
I can understand Wuren not wanting to have you as Co-GM.

ehm what the fuck.. ?

We never had a co-gm and we never will, we have some ppl in the guild who takes care of the daily buissnes and decissions.

Just stop your personal crusade on LA and drag us into your smelly posts, I play this game because I think its fun. Since all it seems to give you is alot of bad feelings I suggest you go find something else to do.

Personally I quite had it with you and your "moral" cakes, im starting to consider it a waste of time arguing with a 40 year old teacher on internet.

nuff said

as Karam gently would have put it
 
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Erekrose

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edit on thinking better of it i dont want to be involved in this flame war.
 
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Thorgald

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heh.. oh my.. who cares about who is owning a keep anyway??

from my point of view its just a damn problem now after patch as u get a /gu spam every damn time a guard gets killed...

and arguing about that particular keep is like .... hum.... a waist of time as it is THE most attacked keep in the game...
 
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Lessurl

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Ok, now i dunno what went on but, from what you yourself said eneq. LA said over your gc that they were plannin on takin keep, but just bcos u saw that they didn't have enough online (/anon?!?) you decided that it was fair that you should take it instead. Ok, maybe slightly fair enough if it was true that LA didn't have enough to claim BUT, i have one question for you. Why didn't you mention your intention on /as too and have a discusion about it on there?!? Instead it looks to me like you were the ones "racing" for the keep so you could get there before LA had claimed it. Outsiders point of view btw, i wasn't even logged on at the time and have just pieced this together from what i've heard from both parties.
 
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Kobold

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Originally posted by Eleasias
you're so full of shit it spills over no matter what you do sorry :/ (<- feels like starting another flame)

OMFG! The GM of a guild speaking!
:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:


eneq trying to make a fair post in a nice manner and give his story, and the GMs of LA reply like they are some kind of children that just poo in theire pants and crying to get some attention! And don't flame me becouse I'm makin LA get a bad reputation or whatever cause you're dam fucking good at that you're self!

nuff saied :m00:


BTW: don't know ahy I care really, I'm just so sick of watching you gang of peeps thinking you're so much better than everyone else and think you have more rights than others.
 
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Kobold

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/EDIT
ok I think I drop writing that....I can be a bit offencive when angry :p
 
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Shrye

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lol

how many threads you started about the same subject now, eneq? Ppl not agreeing with you, so you go start another thread and hope for better luck? ^^
 
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Eleasias

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Originally posted by old.Eternal[EW]





crying to get some attention!
ha..hahaahahhhhhhhhhahahahh, yeah, im the one trying to get attention :p

oh and eneq, eat shit
 
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Kobold

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Eleasias Inactive
50 level Celt Ranger
Tiarna


Guildmaster
Realm Points: 4,350,552
Gained last week: 0

:rolleyes:
 
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Wuren

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yep Fest promoted that char before she left and quit playing but if you actually bothered to read one of your little friend eneq's whine threads for once u would see I replyed to that 100 times
 
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Kobold

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Well tbh I don't bother reading 100+ posts with only stupid flames. What I was trying to reply to this post is that eneq wrote in a pretty nice manner, hes side of the story to maybe get some reply from you're side etc without flames...and what I reacted too was Eleas' post witch IMO is discusting and don't fit in at all, specially since he is (ok WAS) a GM, or at least have a important position in LA.

I'm not flaming everyone in LA or something, cause I know many in the guild is really nice, and don't blame them for anything but this comment kinda don't makes you look better....
 
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inuyasha

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elesias

Elesias as CHAR have always been a gm, and was supposed to :p
The fact eleas is not, no one ever claimed :D

Anyways, flames/counterflames, who cares =)

I for one wont from the second i get "talks to much" in my nick :clap:
 
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Ziva

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Why don't u do like the rest of the (non important) guilds do eneq, just leave Crau alone since it's LA's house anyway (which they occasionaly hand over to some Albs and Mids to stay over for a night :) )

Tbh i can't be bothered about our frontier anymore cause it's always too crowded with the same guilds all the time anyway. Try going to Alb/Mid and take and claim a keep there. Much more fulfilling and fun anyway imho.
 
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Amadon

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I wish people could read.
Eneq's post on this thread was asking where he caused offense, he was NOT whining about the keep/claim situation.
You really should learn to read what IS written and not what you think is written.

edit: sp
 
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old.Nol

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Re: Re: Re: PLZ teach me not to flame PLZ help me here

Originally posted by eneq


a intilligent post as always amadon. Thx

aye my second post much better i think but how many replied to that ?

plz don't make amadons head any bigger, we already have to fly in the military to help put his hat on :D
 
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Amadon

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Re: Re: Re: Re: PLZ teach me not to flame PLZ help me here

Originally posted by old.Nol
plz don't make amadons head any bigger, we already have to fly in the military to help put his hat on :D
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!!!!!!!!!! :m00:

You're just jealous coz most of Excalibur and I beat you to 50 :p

Besides, my ego's already so overinflated it's not like it can get much bigger anyway :D
 

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