Playstation 2 shit?

[Ono]

Final Words

Both the GameCube and Xbox are clearly superior to the PS2 in terms of the quality of the graphics seen in games available today. The transition from PS2 to GameCube and/or Xbox is a fairly large leap, but going between GameCube and Xbox is a bit less dramatic.

From what we've seen based on the launch titles that are currently available, the Xbox takes the crown in terms of visual appeal from games today. Titles such as Rogue Squadron II and Super Smash Brothers Melee for the GameCube do show off some of the Cube's power but the graphics quality does not match what titles like DOA3 are able to produce on the Xbox.

It's entirely too early to crown one platform a winner but based on specifications alone, Xbox is the more powerful console overall. Although the Flipper GPU's use of 1T-SRAM embedded into its die improves performance considerably, the overall package is not as powerful as the Intel/NVIDIA combination beneath the Xbox hood. Features such as real-time Dolby Digital Encoding as well as a very powerful programmable T&L core whose instruction sets have been publicly available for the past year now are only the tip of the iceberg. The inclusion of isochronous channels within the Xbox's HyperTransport link guarantee uninterrupted bandwidth to those tasks that require it which is very important when dealing with something like DD encoding, streaming off of the hard disk or network accesses.

What Nintendo has going for themselves is a console with tremendous amount of support, a history of great first party titles as well as a tremendous focus on gameplay and quality. The GameCube is very efficiently designed and is undoubtedly cheaper to manufacture because of the Gekko/Flipper chips; with the exception of the Xbox it is leaps and bounds beyond the other consoles and should be a healthy competitor in the future as well.

On the desktop side of things, Xbox gave us a preview of what to expect from the next-generation NVIDIA part but what does ArtX's Flipper design tell us about the direction ATI will be going in the years to come? It's clear that ArtX's technology could have benefited from ATI's intervention, but ATI acquired the company for a reason and it's what ArtX can contribute to ATI that we are most intrigued with.

As usual, only time will tell the outcome of this and many questions we've asked throughout this article and series. We hope you've enjoyed our coverage on both Microsoft's Xbox and Nintendo's GameCube.

from Anandtech

 

[Orin Askhammare]

The PS2 is an older system though. My PC is also better than it was last year. So I certainly wouldn't call it shit. I've played some ace games on it. SSX (Tricky), GT3, GTA3, Capcom vs SNK 2 (if you like beat-em-ups) and WRC. Also we've got MGS2 and Final Fantasy X on the way. (taking their sweet time bringing that to Europe fs) So no, shit would not be accurate I think

 

[bodhi]

anand talking about something he doesn't have a clue about. Big shocker!



Graphics doth not make the game. Hardware doth not make the console. Gameplay does. And in that, PS2 is just ahead of GC (due to its wider selection of titles) and light years ahead of Xbox.

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

My Ps2 is pretty cool, in fact i kinda like it. Been hamering away on splashdown, wayyyy too much of late.

I'd still be lost without me Pc though, as great as the Ps2 is, it simply can't hold my attention in the way that the Pc continues to do.

Ps. It's not the playstations playablity that makes it the number one machine by a country mile, it's more the stupidly popular idea among the masses, that you must own a Playstation of some sort.

The ps2 is just a part of that continuing idea that you must do just that.

If the Ps2 had been called anything other than the Ps2, eg some dum ass codename, that the others take up, there's little doubt it wouldn't be half as popular imo.

 

[Orin Askhammare]

Probably. I'm still more than happy with mine tho masses or no

 

[Nibbler]

Dreamcast 0wns j00.







*walks off sedatley*

 

[Wij]

I'm currently converting DVDs to my Dreamcast

(OK, I'm just playing since I've got a PS2 which plays DVDs anyway but I'm sad like that )

Anyway, I can't wait to get an XBox and a GC

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

Awww man how can dis a console that has a cool blue light

 

[Skyler]

if you think the ps2 has a wide selection of gameplay full titles, then you should get a DC and experience some real gameplay

ps2 is ok for a "few" games, GC has more potential imo...

Xbox is mainstream and will probably outsell them both and its graphics are great but its game lineup is yet to impress me

 

[Munkey-]

playstation is quality backed. looked at nintendo's, microsoft and sega's history. only decent system designed from them all was the SNES. and the quality of games released for them were crap. PS on the other hand...

 

[bodhi]

Originally posted by Skyler
if you think the ps2 has a wide selection of gameplay full titles, then you should get a DC and experience some real gameplay

ps2 is ok for a "few" games, GC has more potential imo...

Xbox is mainstream and will probably outsell them both and its graphics are great but its game lineup is yet to impress me

You continue to be wrong. You should keep on going, you could prolly make a good living out of it.

Xbox might outsell GC (just) but it will never ever get near PS2 levels. Just ignoring its 20 million unit defecit before its even started, and the fact that PS2 is still outselling Xbox in it's home market (the US), PS2 is everything to the masses that Xbox isnt.

And as for the DC comment. A more accurate one would be "If you thought the N64 had a shit controller and it's games appealed mainly to emotionally stunted people, you should try buying a DC!"

 

[old.Fweddy]

Originally posted by Skyler
if you think the ps2 has a wide selection of gameplay full titles, then you should get a DC and experience some real gameplay

amazing; DC for gameplay.

who wouldv'e thought Dundee Cake could compete with a games console in that department

 

[Happy Go Lucky]

ps2 has better polygon shifting than the gamecube, whether that's important, i'll let you argue over that, but it's still a FACT.

 

[Yaka]

think i heard this one before um lets see.

going back bout yera i think many people were saying 3DO
would be the console king when in fact they fell arse over tit even the snes and mega drive kicked its arse (btw this console gave us the first 3D FIFA games). then there was the jaguar wit its cd drive worring resembleing a toilet , mind tempest woz absolutly brill on it

 

[LTF]

Originally posted by Yaka
think i heard this one before um lets see.

going back bout yera i think many people were saying 3DO

3DO a year ago?!

On what planet?

 

[Nibbler]

Originally posted by happy_go_lucky
ps2 has better polygon shifting than the gamecube, whether that's important, i'll let you argue over that, but it's still a FACT.

Yeh but all GC polygons look better, or something.

 

[Custy]

Originally posted by Kurt_Angle
Ps. It's not the playstations playablity that makes it the number one machine by a country mile, it's more the stupidly popular idea among the masses, that you must own a Playstation of some sort.

EXXXXXXACTLY

Also, the Playstation is the only games platform that isn't considered geeky by people who don't play games at all.

 

[Skyler]

i didnt think the ps2 was so popular bodhi...
oh well

 

[bodhi]

It's selling faster than PSX was at this stage of its life. An ominous sign for the competition.

 

[old.rapture]

Im pleased with my ps2, ive got my moneys worth out of it. I dont like to compare to other machines, as they were still mostly rumours when i bought it. Even now its easier to own a ps2, the local vidshop hires ps2 games, and its easier to find titles. Ive always been one to hire stuff out anyway, imho most console titles barely have 3 days worth of gameplay as it is (starfighter, onimusha, some jetski game to name a few) good games, but not worth buying.

The games ive bought so far have been excellent. DoA2 has been fun, TH3 is a decent successor to one of my fave ps1 games, GT3A is good and Rez is the nuts when played with some quality skunk on the side

Generally i find the best games are all spread across platforms anyway, if you get one system you'll be missing out on game x, if you get another you'll be missing out on game y.

 

[Sir Frizz]

If you think graphics make a console, look at the N64, it sold half the untits of the PS. End of.

 

[Skyler]

graphics are nothing
gameplay is everything.