plagiarism or no ?

[Olgaline]

I say no, as it's an adoptation, wich is preatty normal but alot is ther own too so it's not a plain out re-write ala skater girl, dono if the actually credit it on the album ?
still abit interresting

anyway to the point "knew I'd heard it before!!!"

YouTube - Classical Gas - Full
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and claptons version
YouTube - Eric Clapton - Classical Gas
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and now to the point
YouTube - promoe - these walls don't lie
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oh and I'll leave you with one of my fav guitarists version
YouTube - Tommy Emmanuel - Classical Gas (Live)
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PS: I know it's very normal for rap artists to do this so not really accusing, topic was just to get your attention
However if they dont credit it well then................

and well guess in many ways rap songs differ abit on this as they dont really plaigurise a melody as they reinvent it
but ofc, you always gotta give credit were it's due

 

[Chronictank]

lol considering the number of covers on youtube i am not sure

Rap is a little different, you will often find that the tunes they use are owned/liscenced by the label they are on anyway

I am not sure tbh, surely if they change a few bars then it is no longer the original tune?

 

[Mey]

Not to mention the twenty million "ghost writers" for most rap artists out there. lol.

 

[Olgaline]

Rap is a little different, you will often find that the tunes they use are owned/liscenced by the label they are on anyway

aye thats kinda what I'm getting at.

 

[Chronictank]

side note, that loop troop song is awesome

 

[Olgaline]

Not to mention the twenty million "ghost writers" for most rap artists out there. lol.

that goes for all mainstream genres tho!

 

[Chronictank]

Not to mention the twenty million "ghost writers" for most rap artists out there. lol.

surely you understand the concept of a ghost writer
In which case what has that to do with the thread topic other than a thinly veiled dig at the genre

 

[Olgaline]

side note, that loop troop song is awesome

aye,
and I like how they've used a good clasic and brought it into the 21'st with out raping it

 

[Huntingtons]

I say no, as it's [...] due

well, Promoe didnt do the beat but when DJs do records they usually put in who did the songs they sampled etc. so i would believe that its been credited. in any case its a pimp ass song for more than 1 reason.

it can also be as a tribute including pieces of famous songs in new songs.

 

[Raven]

If an artist does not credit the writer and tries to claim it as their own music then its plagiarism. Like when David Bowie/Queen sued Vanilla Ice

YouTube - Ice Ice Baby
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YouTube - Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure
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Covers are very different though, if a band put a cover version of a song on an album then they have to pay royalties to the original artist. Though I think its only if they make a profit from it, its a rather gray area, I very much doubt they pursue every local pub band who plays one of their tunes.

 

[Chronictank]

lol found this as a follow-on link to the vanilla ice vid, i think its actually kind of good contrary to most his stuff

YouTube - Vanilla Ice and Bloodhound Gangs Collabs- Boom & S.N.A.F.U.
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