pierce shade weapon/temp dilema

dangle

Fledgling Freddie
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Feb 18, 2004
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I am a pierce and cs spec NS and ive finally narrowed down my weapon weapon setup and template choices to 2 options. But for the life of me i cant decide what to go ahead with. The 2 weapon setups are either dual heat/cold legs or heat/cold leg main hand and croc tooth dagger off hand.

Anyway, here is the temps ive made with them they arent totally final but they are very close to what i want. I know the str and dex caps aint v high but ive never been able to make a CS temp with high caps without gimping resists and quickness....

heres the 1 with ctd, with a little tweaking i think i could fit 3 env on it

Stats

Str: 82 Int: 0 Hits: 180
Con: 74 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 80 Cha: 0
Qui: 59 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 28 Energy: 21 Crush: 27
Cold: 26 Matter: 25 Thrust: 25
Heat: 26 Spirit: 24 Slash: 27

Skills

11 Stealth

11 Critical Strike

11 Celtic Dual

11 Piercing

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dex

5 Str

Other Bonuses

2 Casting Speed Bonus

30 AF Bonus

8 Melee Damage Bonus

7 Melee Speed Bonus

7 Style Damage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: GOV
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Gem 2: 9 Spirit Resist - 99 polished Vapor Shielding
Gem 3: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Gem 4: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Utility: 66.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 6 Celtic Dual - 99 polished Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 5 Thrust Resist - 99 flawed Airy Shielding
Gem 3: 5 Slash Resist - 99 flawed Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Spirit Resist - 99 flawed Vapor Shielding
Utility: 60.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Gem 2: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Piercing - 99 flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 4 Stealth - 99 flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 74.67

Hands
Imbue Points: 36.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 10 Dexterity - 99 flawed Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Gem 4: 4 Piercing - 99 flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Utility: 59.33

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 4 Stealth - 99 flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 3 Critical Strike - 99 rough Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Utility: 67.67

Right Hand
Name: heat leg
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 28 Dexterity
Effect 2: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.67

Left Hand
Name: CTD
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 27 Strength
Effect 2: 27 Dexterity
Effect 3: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 3 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 36.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: paidrean necky
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: SOM stealther
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 Stealth
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: harpy feather charm
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 6 Body Resist
Effect 5: 44 Hits
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.00

Belt
Name: belt of lightning
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 5 Celtic Dual
Effect 3: 7 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 48 Hits
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 63.00

Right Ring
Name: ring of thunder
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Piercing
Effect 2: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 22 Strength
Effect 4: 48 Hits
Effect 5: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 53.67

Left Ring
Name: ring of the torrent
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Right Wrist
Name: ebon hide
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Body Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: ebon hide
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Body Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

and heres the 1 with dual LW, nice AF, the env is already in there

Stats

Str: 82 Int: 0 Hits: 180
Con: 74 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 83 Cha: 0
Qui: 59 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 26 Energy: 23 Crush: 26
Cold: 28 Matter: 24 Thrust: 25
Heat: 28 Spirit: 19 Slash: 26

Skills

11 Stealth

3 Envenom

11 Critical Strike

11 Piercing

11 Celtic Dual

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dex

5 Str

Other Bonuses

4 Melee Damage Bonus

40 AF Bonus

7 Melee Speed Bonus

4 Style Damage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: GOV
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 6 Celtic Dual - 99 polished Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 5 Thrust Resist - 99 flawed Airy Shielding
Gem 3: 5 Slash Resist - 99 flawed Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Matter Resist - 99 flawed Earthen Shielding
Utility: 60.00

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 5 Energy Resist - 99 flawed Light Shielding
Gem 3: 4 Piercing - 99 flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 19 Strength - 99 faceted Fiery Essence
Utility: 61.33

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 2: 3 Envenom - 99 rough Dusty Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 25 Quickness - 99 flawless Airy Essence
Utility: 69.67

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 2: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 3 Piercing - 99 rough Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 3 Critical Strike - 99 rough Heated Battle Jewel
Utility: 66.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: Impossible!
Gem 1: 4 Piercing - 99 flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 19 Quickness - 99 faceted Airy Essence
Gem 4: 9 Spirit Resist - 99 polished Vapor Shielding
Utility: 70.67

Right Hand
Name: heat leg
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 28 Dexterity
Effect 2: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.67

Left Hand
Name: heat leg
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 28 Dexterity
Effect 2: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.67

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: paidrean necky
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: SOM stealther
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 Stealth
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: harpy feather charm
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 6 Body Resist
Effect 5: 44 Hits
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.00

Belt
Name: belt of lightning
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 5 Celtic Dual
Effect 3: 7 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 48 Hits
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 63.00

Right Ring
Name: RoD
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 12 Strength
Effect 3: 12 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00

Left Ring
Name: ring of the tempest
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Stealth
Effect 2: 4 Body Resist
Effect 3: 18 Strength
Effect 4: 48 Hits
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 57.00

Right Wrist
Name: ebon hide
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Body Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: cyclone bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

As u can see both templates have thier positives and negatives, but to me the main decision to make is the weapon setup. Maybe u ppl who use dual legs will think i am crazy to even consider ctd, but sincle the start of toa ive always just used leg main hand and stinger offhand for the utility and the little extra WS.(i just use my pre toa SC atm with som 6.10 vest and leg)
The reason to dual weild legs is obvious i wont go into that. The reason i consider ctd is because i see it as the next best thing for a pierce shade to use if he wants something malice axe style for debuffing dex and quick. Anyway id love some opinions esp from ppl who use these weapon setups.

Thanks

Dangleberryfinn
 

Gesta

Loyal Freddie
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I used to use one leggie and stinger b4 i could afford 2 leggies, now i got 6, 2 of each and they kick ass royally, golden spear is the daddy for doing PAs though.
 

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