Peta kids

[Tom]

Saw this on another forum, but I don't think I'm doing PETA a dis-service by quoting them out of context:

http://www.petakids.com/cal/804/1.html

http://www.petakids.com/vegkids/chumps.html

The first link - ice cream contains pus? Yes, obviously. Milk is near-white, pus is near-white, therefore milk = pus.

The second link, gives kids the idea that germs are only found on meat. That chickens have long important discussions with eachother. That fat is 'bad'.

http://www.petakids.com/vegkids/health.html

More gross inacurracies. Obviously, anybody with high cholesterol (they don't state which) is eating meat. Stop eating meat, and your cholesterol will drop! Its that simple kids! It is, of course, a load of bullshit. They disregard the fact that humans have been eating meat for thousands of years, by telling kids that its bad for you. They link eating saturated fat with high cholesterol levels, which is not how the body works.

You might have guessed that I'm not a vegetarian, and I have absolutely no problem with others being veggies, its a lifestyle choice for most. I'd like to find anybody who can offer conclusive proof that anything on that website is factual.

Peta kids - What total, utter, COCK

 

[TdC]

tbh.

 

[Danya]

mmm meat.

 

[GekuL]

But chickens on factory farms never get to be loved by their moms. These birds' lives are awful and scary even before they are killed and cut up for food.

Brought a tear to my eye that did ;(

Which reminds me, I've got a bucket of spicy chicken wings in the fridge that needs to be eaten.

 

[Mazling]

mmm, fat children...

 

[nath]

I agree about the factory farms bit, they are awful awful places. But hey, what about vegetables - they're all a form of life! Just because we don't think they're sentient, doesn't mean they're not. Surely they have an instinct to survive somewhere somehow too? So what the hell can we eat if not all that stuff?

 

[Cask]

Carrion

 

[sibanac]

I agree about the factory farms bit, they are awful awful places. But hey, what about vegetables - they're all a form of life! Just because we don't think they're sentient, doesn't mean they're not. Surely they have an instinct to survive somewhere somehow too? So what the hell can we eat if not all that stuff?

you forget that alot of animals die from harvesting/plowing fields.
combine harvesters dont give a damn if a cute bunny wabbit gets in its way
(or snakes/birdsnests/rats/mice ......)

 

[nath]

Well there you go - we should stop eating anything that hasn't died of natural causes.

 

[TdC]

how about road-kill? surely we can eat that?

 

[Sissyfoo]

If we get really hungry we can always raid the morgue! Full of meat that has died of natural causes!

 

[nath]

how about road-kill? surely we can eat that?

No, cars should be banned - they only lead to death.

 

[Tom]

Carrion

Hey, insects have a right to eat you know!

 

[tris-]

gonna be blunt, but why does it matter if the chicken has bad conditions? just because you dont eat the chicken, doesnt mean it wont die (its already dead duh) and it wont stop chickens being bread for food.

people go vegetarian sometimes because they care about the animals. well the animal is dead so why does it matter anymore if you eat it or not? going vege does not stop more animals being killed.

 

[Driwen]

people go vegetarian sometimes because they care about the animals. well the animal is dead so why does it matter anymore if you eat it or not? going vege does not stop more animals being killed.

less people eating meat, means less demand for it. Which eventually should lead to less animals being bred for meat. Atleast that is probably their line of thinking.

 

[tris-]

im gonna make a crazy guess but i dont think the amount of vegetarians can compare to the amount of meat eaters, ever.

 

[Mazling]

Warning: Rant.

Only useless humans could come up with some sort of belief system whereby they cannot eat.
Take yourself out of the chain and you may end up destroying exactly what you're trying to protect ... I'm not saying it shouldn't matter if animals are kept nailed to the floor with plastic tubes down their throats feeding them sawdust every 4 hours or whatever, but I'm annoyed that people think they can put these things into glass boxes - totally separate from the rest of the planet.

Edit: Oh, and who remembers a certain blue plant from Farscape ?

 

[DaGaffer]

Only useless humans could come up with some sort of belief system whereby they cannot eat.
Take yourself out of the chain and you may end up destroying exactly what you're trying to protect ... I'm not saying it shouldn't matter if animals are kept nailed to the floor with plastic tubes down their throats feeding them sawdust every 4 hours or whatever, but I'm annoyed that people think they can put these things into glass boxes - totally separate from the rest of the planet.

Edit: Oh, and who remembers a certain blue plant from Farscape ?

Absolutely. I love baiting veggies about this kind of thing. What they tend to forget is that if the world went veggie, all the species they're so desperate to protect would be extinct in heartbeat. If a farmer has no reason to keep cows or chickens or whatever, pretty soon there'll be no cows and chickens.

I don't particularly like factory farms, but that's mainly because they produce poor quality meat and can be disease centers, not because I'm worried about a chicken's quality of life. I don't understand why people have this problem with humanity's place in the food chain all the time. We're at the top and we're omnivores, live with it.

 

[Jonaldo]

After reading through this thread I've decided to alter my diet.

From now on I only eat stones, gravel, rocks and glass. If I want a treat I eat assorted plastics or mud.

Can I drink water? I ask this because we take away the homestead from all sorts of lifeforms and consdering the amount of creatures that exist in water there might be some germs in it unless we use 'unnatural' cleansing agents which I am 100% against!

 

[Mofo8]

I'm a happy carnivore. I suppose technically humans are omnivores, but I eat very little vegetable stuff. Do crisps count?

However, after seeing 'Supersize Me', I think it's fair to say that I'll never go near another McDonalds again. Anyone else seen it yet? The guy's in some state by then end of his experiment. Mmmmmhhhh..... McNuggets.... Used to be made from old chickens who couldn't walk anymore, now made from grinding up McFrankenstein chickens with unaturally large breasts.

I know a couple of people who refuse to consume milk, or "cow juice" as they call it. The say that humans are the only species who drink milk in adulthood and that it isn't natural. They appear to have no problem with stuff made from milk though, cheese, butter, and all that stuff.

Milk does however contain levels of pus.... the level of pus allowed is set at some level or other. It's due to the cows being fed growth hormones or something, and having swollen udders.

 

[tris-]

we are probably the only species because we realise how good it can be for our health. pretty bad argument against milk tbh
animals dont drink milk in adulthood because -
1. the parent stops making it after so long
2. generally, animals are not able to go milk other animals to get the milk. i.e. i have never seen a lion setup a cow farm and milk cows.

 

[Tom]

Pus is just dead white blood cells. They're harmless.

 

[Sar]

If we get really hungry we can always raid the morgue! Full of meat that has died of natural causes!

xD

 

[Sar]

TBH if I was restricted to only eating 1 meat, and that meat was chicken, for the remainder of my life, I'd be a happy bastard. I love chicken, it's my favourite food, and I regularly eat it with no problems.

By regularly I mean nearly daily.

 

[throdgrain]

Thats fantastic news Sar

 

[Sar]

Well I haven't got any heart or weight problems, and I'm very rarely ill, so what I mean is it's basically all bullshit.

 

[Danya]

we are probably the only species because we realise how good it can be for our health. pretty bad argument against milk tbh
animals dont drink milk in adulthood because -
1. the parent stops making it after so long
2. generally, animals are not able to go milk other animals to get the milk. i.e. i have never seen a lion setup a cow farm and milk cows.

Also most mammals in adulthood are lactose intolerant so can't drink milk without being ill.

 

[Driwen]

Also most mammals in adulthood are lactose intolerant so can't drink milk without being ill.

they are that, because they havent had any lactose to digest for some time. So the enzym needed isnt produced anymore. Atleast that is the case for humans. I think the time is years for humans though, so it isnt usually a problem, but if mammals drink milk after their baby stage reguraly than they wont become lactose intolerant.

 

[Shocko]

If we get really hungry we can always raid the morgue! Full of meat that has died of natural causes!

Just make sure that Wij hasn't been in there first...

 

[Munkey]

The first link - ice cream contains pus? Yes, obviously. Milk is near-white, pus is near-white, therefore milk = pus.
http://www.petakids.com/vegkids/health

Just so you know, milk contains large quantites of pus, its not the colour they're banging on about