Pet De Mezzing

Balbor

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Why do Bonedancers and WV need pet demezzing spells, i can understand Necros getting it because they have no resist to mezz or immuinity timer. Why not other pet classes such as Cabalist or Druid? A Bonedancer with mezzed pets is still more dangours that a Cabalist without pet. And VW can just summon more pets, serves them right for spamming there pets everywhere if they got none left.
 

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Look at it the other way arround, what if they hadn't? The BD+Animist communities would be up in arms about it, tbh though I wouldn't be at all surprised if once they've tested it they change it in some way to make it more difficult to get off.
 

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Balbor said:
Why do Bonedancers and WV need pet demezzing spells, i can understand Necros getting it because they have no resist to mezz or immuinity timer. Why not other pet classes such as Cabalist or Druid? A Bonedancer with mezzed pets is still more dangours that a Cabalist without pet. And VW can just summon more pets, serves them right for spamming there pets everywhere if they got none left.

WV? Dunno what casting time and powercost the pet demezz will have, but i think it will do little difference, other than for the necro anyways. doubt a bonedancer will have time (or even care) to stand to cast 3 demezzes (depends much on situation ofc). And its not VWs that summons shrooms, thats animists. But yeah. doubt an animist would bother demezzing shrooms as well, as their pets are on timer. Unless the demezz was insta, ae and on a low powercost. They have other stuff to waste their power on. And most of the time, when an animist spams pets, they use the lvl 5, 9 or 16 ones afaik.
A cabalist can always release the pet and get a bunch of power if its standing mezzed and useless ;)
 

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Leleith said:
the pet and get a bunch of power if its standing mezzed and useless ;)

Another myth, cabal only gets a bunch of pow back if he reclaims amber pet which not many level 50 cabal's have active. Also the amount of points in spirit spec affects how much power they get back so for example a full matter cabal reclaiming a sapphire pet would get back alot less power than a spirit cabalist reclaiming an amber pet, alot less.
 

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why they dont make bones pet like theurs pets? cannot mezz/root, only stun.
in this case i can live whitout demezz.
 

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Tuppe said:
why they dont make bones pet like theurs pets? cannot mezz/root, only stun.
in this case i can live whitout demezz.

Yes give bonedancers more love cause they need it...

Sorry but this stupid comment is so stupid...really..should put it in my sig...
 

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Tuppe said:
why they dont make bones pet like theurs pets? cannot mezz/root, only stun.

Thrug 'pets' are fire&forget, the Thurg has no control over it once its been fired off - BD's do.
 

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Tuppe said:
why they dont make bones pet like theurs pets? cannot mezz/root, only stun.
in this case i can live whitout demezz.

:eek6:
 

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Balbor said:
Why do Bonedancers and WV need pet demezzing spells, i can understand Necros getting it because they have no resist to mezz or immuinity timer. Why not other pet classes such as Cabalist or Druid? A Bonedancer with mezzed pets is still more dangours that a Cabalist without pet. And VW can just summon more pets, serves them right for spamming there pets everywhere if they got none left.
yer an alb right? :m00:
 

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Mythic in their infinet wisdom decided that nearly unkillable bonedancers were not uber enough yet, as just occasionally, a mezz class might be able to beat them :eek2: Of cause this had to be rectified as a top priority.
 

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Kagato said:
Mythic in their infinet wisdom decided that nearly unkillable bonedancers were not uber enough yet, as just occasionally, a mezz class might be able to beat them :eek2: Of cause this had to be rectified as a top priority.
:clap: :clap: :clap:
 

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I think bd's wont be happy till they get a spall that is insta cast, on no recast timer and has 2300 range and 750 radius which just insta kills the enemy...Hmm well thinking bout that, when they get that they could whine about still being able to get killed while afk...So give bd's also some reactive buff so whoever hits them gets the damage done to the bd x100 back :touch:
 

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Thegreatest said:
I think bd's wont be happy till they get a spall that is insta cast, on no recast timer and has 2300 range and 750 radius which just insta kills the enemy...Hmm well thinking bout that, when they get that they could whine about still being able to get killed while afk...So give bd's also some reactive buff so whoever hits them gets the damage done to the bd x100 back :touch:

But their the only caster to get Banelord ML.

BaneLord plus pet demez kinda defeats any chance a Spell caster might have had against them and tanks are pretty fucked against em.. if the BD has even the slighest bit of skill.

Big Ugly said:
yay! more BD whines!

more pls

Plz return the favour with stlong Dragonfang / mini Stealth group wine kk :p :kissit: :flame:
 

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Garok said:
Plz return the favour with stlong Dragonfang / mini Stealth group wine kk :p :kissit: :flame:

Will there be cheese with the wine? :eek7:
 

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Garok said:
Plz return the favour with stlong Dragonfang / mini Stealth group wine kk :p :kissit: :flame:
been there, done that :p

/em waits for the rest of the infilnerfs to be made public
 

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cHodAX said:
Another myth, cabal only gets a bunch of pow back if he reclaims amber pet which not many level 50 cabal's have active. Also the amount of points in spirit spec affects how much power they get back so for example a full matter cabal reclaiming a sapphire pet would get back alot less power than a spirit cabalist reclaiming an amber pet, alot less.


you still get a decent amount of power back - almost enough to resummon the pet.

Course you then have to rebuff the pet - for a spirit cabalist you can burn about 50% of your mana doing that. And it takes a while too...
 

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Thegreatest said:
I think bd's wont be happy till they get a spall that is insta cast, on no recast timer and has 2300 range and 750 radius which just insta kills the enemy...Hmm well thinking bout that, when they get that they could whine about still being able to get killed while afk...

That more sounds like the average alb tbh. You dont see bonedancers whine about their class a whole lot, do you? Dont think ive ever seen a "omg, bonedancers are so underpowered, mythic, please fix the class". However, posts from albs to the left and right, whining at how bad their classes are can be seen every day, in almost every thread. I for one dont think BDs are that much of a threat. There arent that many of them playing activly. And there have never been. They are a pain in the ass to lvl (yes, they actually are. Try get a grp with one, and see for yourself. or go solo your way to 50), and when ppl get powerlvl, they rather go make a fotm or a stealther of some sort. There are few playing bds activly on excal (can probably count them on the fingers on my right hand) and i rarely see bonedancers out in RvR on prydwen.
 

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Balbor said:
Why do Bonedancers and WV need pet demezzing spells, i can understand Necros getting it because they have no resist to mezz or immuinity timer. Why not other pet classes such as Cabalist or Druid? A Bonedancer with mezzed pets is still more dangours that a Cabalist without pet. And VW can just summon more pets, serves them right for spamming there pets everywhere if they got none left.

The one that should not get it at all is Necro since this spell gives them a free purge since you cant do anything to the caster only the pet.
 

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bds, anamists and necros where designed at the same time, where the pets are meant to be an integral part of the classe's survival
as can be seen in many times, myhtic seems to base their descisions on what they want/wish the game was rather than how it actually works
lets give cure mez to a class that can camp amg solo with power font
lets promote vast zergs because we think it'd be nice, even though the game engine can't support them
 

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Eroa said:
The one that should not get it at all is Necro since this spell gives them a free purge since you cant do anything to the caster only the pet.

How stupid are you? atm Necors can't do anything when there pet is mezzed/stunned apart from release pet and summon a new one which takes 20sec. Animists can resummon more shrooms, BDs probably don't even notice there pets are mezzed. And if you can't kill a Necro pet in 15secs u really are crap
 

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Balbor said:
How stupid are you? atm Necors can't do anything when there pet is mezzed/stunned apart from release pet and summon a new one which takes 20sec. Animists can resummon more shrooms, BDs probably don't even notice there pets are mezzed. And if you can't kill a Necro pet in 15secs u really are crap

what she says is sorta correct, necro one should be on a 30 timer like purge (might be i don't know), otherwise it makes the neco totally immune to mez because theres no way to stop the shade getting it off
i don't remember mythic wanting classes with total mez immunity
 

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Dont worry necro one will be on a recast timer of 15 mins, I'm almost 100% sure about that...
 

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Balbor said:
How stupid are you? atm Necors can't do anything when there pet is mezzed/stunned apart from release pet and summon a new one which takes 20sec. Animists can resummon more shrooms, BDs probably don't even notice there pets are mezzed. And if you can't kill a Necro pet in 15secs u really are crap

Thing is.. You CAN mezz the bd and the animist. But you CANT mezz a necro.

Next time you call someone stupid please go look in the mirror and do so.
 

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Eroa said:
Thing is.. You CAN mezz the bd and the animist. But you CANT mezz a necro.

Next time you call someone stupid please go look in the mirror and do so.

necros pet can be chain stunned, rooted AND mezzed and get 3 shooted by all othher casters. If the necro demezz his pet u just mezz it again as it got no immuntimer :) pets aint everything for an animist, they also got 1 of the most powerfull nukes in game and bds got instant debuff and lifetap to safe there ass :)
 

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Balbor said:
How stupid are you? atm Necors can't do anything when there pet is mezzed/stunned apart from release pet and summon a new one which takes 20sec. Animists can resummon more shrooms, BDs probably don't even notice there pets are mezzed. And if you can't kill a Necro pet in 15secs u really are crap

If necros pet gets mezzed, they will either cast the demezz (when that patch is here). Or if the pets gets hit, the mezz is broken, and they wont need to cast the demezz. The thing they need to fix is the imunity timer, so they get imune to mezz/stun/root after having it once. just like all other classes.

You dont seem to be the brightest star in here. Dont call other ppl stupid when you are as clueless as you are yourself.

Balbor said:
Animists can resummon more shrooms
First of all: go figure how many shrooms of the good, really damage dealing kind an animist can cast. And which lvl pets they actually CAN spam. Then have a look at how long THAT takes.

Balbor said:
BDs probably don't even notice there pets are mezzed. And if you can't kill a Necro pet in 15secs u really are crap
If you cant kill a bonedancer when his pets are mezzed, you are really crap. Since a few patches back, fully buffed necro pets seem to be more or less imune to melee attacks. BDs arent. Bds and necros are both pretty special. Bds are hard thanks to their insta tap. Necros are hard thanks to their high melee resist and regen/lifetap

Go make a WV and spam some shrooms
 

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Leleith said:
If you cant kill a bonedancer when his pets are mezzed, you are really crap. Since a few patches back, fully buffed necro pets seem to be more or less imune to melee attacks. BDs arent. Bds and necros are both pretty special. Bds are hard thanks to their insta tap. Necros are hard thanks to their high melee resist and regen/lifetap

First off you can't assume that all necros have buff bots, and yes they are very tough at melee but if you give any summoned pet BB Con Str/Con and AF buffs they become very tough at melee, ok not are tought as necro but then there health isn't linked to there pets and they get to ditch/sacrifice pet to save there own ass (necros can only do that if they have a health posion to use). Even when going head to head with a tank, most of them have access to Bleeds, stunes, hinder and slowed styles as well as procs on there weapons and armour (although i think necros will get this fixed soon). In all the excellent melee defence make up for the very pour magic defence.

currently if Pet is mezzed then so is Necro, but if BD or WVs pets are mezzedit doesn't auto mezz them as well. If they get mezzed/rooted/stunned there resists reduce the time CCed. There Level means there is a chance of speel being reisted outright (compearing L44 pet to L50 pc). Once they come out of it they are immune to that effect for 1min. And as a back up they can get Purge (while Necros Purge is bugged).

Resent patches have seen an already totally underpowered class nerfed, from very fast armour degrading (after al necro probaby get hit more than non melee class) while not first fixing the inability to make use of procs and charges (despite the fact they keep making necro items with them on). Necros can no longer collect loot while leaving there pet out of harms way (a nice little perk we use to have). FInally i recall reading somewhere that necros will no longer gain power from orange con mobs and above from the powertaps (dunno if it was a rumor or future patch).

This spell will allow necros to enter into RvR more, and not find themself mezz for the full duration of a battle, unable to do anything, before being set upon by the tanks and nukers, dead before your able to get your first so called instent LT off.
 

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