PBAOE Guild

Craft

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Me and a buddy of mine were talking today about the seeming lack of a decent PBAOE Guild or RvR group out there in Albion and were thinking about starting one, if anyone is intrested in laying down some dates and times where a few of us could meet and discuss this then that would be great, those that are intrested please email me at: DONOTEPOSTEMAILADRESSESUSEPMS@hotmail.com and give me your advice, or alternatively post your ingame characters name here and ill try and contact you asap, levels of starting will be 20 as most players to date have the /level ability, although we would start low, we would work as a guild group starting in Keltoi, then from Keltoi going into Thidranki, then onwards to 35 then a little stop off in Caledonia then a final push into Big Boy RvR.

Regards.

Lee.
 

Craft

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once again a typical response from an elitest guild member, but you guys dont do level 20 groups do you? :D or focus on leveling.
 

swords

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Craft said:
once again a typical response from an elitest guild member, but you guys dont do level 20 groups do you? :D or focus on leveling.

Thats because they have already done the leveling bit...they are doing the whole RvR caster group thing maybe?

LOL at the Elitist comment too! :p
NO are the best Albion caster group out there show some respect :touch:
 

judas

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swords said:
Thats because they have already done the leveling bit...they are doing the whole RvR caster group thing maybe?

LOL at the Elitist comment too! :p
NO are the best Albion caster group out there show some respect :touch:
hehe...
 

swords

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Young un's these days eh! No respect fer their Elders!
 

Craft

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ive been around since the first release of the game so respect for my elders as you say is a saying that has come and gone and i didnt really know that there was a decent RvR PBAOE guild out there, i cant do RvR that well due to the nature of my machine and internet connection so im pretty much restricted to PvE.
 

Kagato

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You need to make a whole guild to run a pbaoe group? why not just pm a few peeps and run a fg.
 

swords

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Kagato said:
You need to make a whole guild to run a pbaoe group? why not just pm a few peeps and run a fg.

To make one work WELL you do.
unless you just want to leech from a zerg :m00:
 

DaveyJones

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swords said:
Thats because they have already done the leveling bit...they are doing the whole RvR caster group thing maybe?

LOL at the Elitist comment too! :p
NO are the best Albion caster group out there show some respect :touch:

Why respect people who wont show you the same?
And thats directed at Mr. Hi.
 

swords

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So if i walk up to you and say Hi im disrespecting you?
Hi.
 

Brynn

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swords said:
So if i walk up to you and say Hi im disrespecting you?
Hi.

Your disrespecting me - im gunna put a draks head in your bed
 

Teren

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alb pbaoe != good

unless u get a good sorc and mincer + 3 servant necros :p

immune to assist train pbaoe ^^
 

[NO]Subedai

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Remem said:
Campin mmg with the prodigy at odins with 3fg for 1 hour makes u decent :eek: ? Same players just new guild ;x

if ur reffering to the event u keep coming bak 2...we got reports of like 2-3fg of hibs/mids (was long time ago so not sure of realm) heading to HMG( yes not mmg as we rarely go emain) i presume it was a mistype by u :) anyway 2-3fg so we go walls to give us better odds..then a load of TP came later so it gave impression of camping the mg with them.

as it turned out info was wrong and was only a fg..a shame really.
 

iluvatur

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there only considered 'the best' cos they seem to be the only guild do regular caster groups. Can't comment on their ability as i've not really played with them, although you don't need to make a whole guild, just note the names of a few good players that you would like in this group ... build up a little list of them add to friends and set up out of the ones that are online at the time.

i tend to rank mage debuff groups higher than the pbaoe ones anyways. The ones that shadowlords put together can be very nasty, shame we don't do them more often.

Think setup is:

mind sorc
spirit caba x2
minstrel
cleric x2
body sorc x2

one assist is all it takes to completely destroy any class ( 500 x3 + 650+ x2 every second, with no casters interupted) and group has alot of cc and interupts for other group (5 pets w00t), not to mention slightly more surviveability due to all mages being able to lifetap.

give it a go :cheers:
 

Galerrard

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I could have sworn there was supposed to be a scout or two in the ideal group set up....
 

Glottis

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Galerrard said:
I could have sworn there was supposed to be a scout or two in the ideal group set up....

Still a very funny man you are Gal :)
Regards, Glottis
 

[NO]Magmatic

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iluvatur said:
Think setup is:

mind sorc
spirit caba x2
minstrel
cleric x2
body sorc x2
Each group has their advantages over the other, this certainly can be good, 9 out of 10 times I wouldnt suggest 1 MA though (too easy to take out)... And switching MA's can cause too much problems when playing... But that would be me...

Problem though with this group (not saying its not possible) is taking out larger numbers, we all know running into 2-3 FG these days isnt uncommon, a PBAoE group does much better in general against those numbers, at least pre-toa... Lets not even talk about taking out 40+ during keep raids/defense... Top we had is probably around 60 mids during defense...

Not sure how much TOA will affect the ability to take out larger numbers... Since I havent been back to RvR for a while, we will be slowly going back next week or so... Just need to get all our artifacts, and preferably level them to 10 before we head back...

We're also changing our group setup due to bodyguard, we used to run with 2x cleric, 2x wiz, 2x sorc (mind & body), 1x minstrel, 1x theurg... We'll now switch to 2x cleric, 2x wiz, 1x sorc (split-spec), 1x minstrel, 1x theurg and 1x armsman/paladin with BG... I'm not saying this is 'the group' to run as pbaoe, everyone has their different setups, but we feel this is the group setup that will suit us best...

The main thing with albion PBAoE, to perform well, you need realm ranks... I'm not saying its not possible, but I doubt a RR1 pbaoe group will be very effective...
 

Craft

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I didnt mean to say that [NO] are a bad guild because i have spoken to Magmatic when i was a young level 14 Armsman and he gave me some good advice so i respect him for that i just have a thing for elitest guilds who will only let you join them if your RR6+ or whatever.
 

iluvatur

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[NO]Magmatic said:
Each group has their advantages over the other, this certainly can be good, 9 out of 10 times I wouldnt suggest 1 MA though (too easy to take out)... And switching MA's can cause too much problems when playing... But that would be me...

Problem though with this group (not saying its not possible) is taking out larger numbers, we all know running into 2-3 FG these days isnt uncommon, a PBAoE group does much better in general against those numbers, at least pre-toa... Lets not even talk about taking out 40+ during keep raids/defense... Top we had is probably around 60 mids during defense...

Not sure how much TOA will affect the ability to take out larger numbers... Since I havent been back to RvR for a while, we will be slowly going back next week or so... Just need to get all our artifacts, and preferably level them to 10 before we head back...

We're also changing our group setup due to bodyguard, we used to run with 2x cleric, 2x wiz, 2x sorc (mind & body), 1x minstrel, 1x theurg... We'll now switch to 2x cleric, 2x wiz, 1x sorc (split-spec), 1x minstrel, 1x theurg and 1x armsman/paladin with BG... I'm not saying this is 'the group' to run as pbaoe, everyone has their different setups, but we feel this is the group setup that will suit us best...

The main thing with albion PBAoE, to perform well, you need realm ranks... I'm not saying its not possible, but I doubt a RR1 pbaoe group will be very effective...

We started off with 2 MA's but we found when a few casters were interupted and versus a decent group we wern't able to damage them fast enough (ie their druids/healers were able to heal them before we dropped them in the first couple of casts)

whereas even if our MA is interupted the second caba will still be able to debuff his target and the rest own him. And have to always make sure you have macros for both cabas on first bar.

i understand what you mean about the multiple groups, and i agree, however our main strength lies in the fact that we have so much CC and interupts that versus any group, tank or caster we can cope with them. I think with tank groups we tend to target their tanks first as the back field of their group is CC'd/interupted (whereas a pbaoe would tend to ward off all charging tanks with the pbaoe box, whilst they nuke down support in between charges) thus killing off all their offense, before taking our time to pick off the rest 1 by 1. Whereas with a caster group we can have our choice of 5 casters who can aoe them interupting and set the legions of pets out for them. versus these you would expect more interupts which is ok as the casters will generally take less to nuke down.

would be nice to combine these groups as an emain zerg killer, best of both worlds? we should get talking :fluffle:
 

Asty

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I'd say its better to go pbae than pure assist nuking because:

- assist nuke group has problems with high numbers of enemies
- when assist nuke group gets jumped by a tank group its bad cause of no defence.
 

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