Parry and Shield spec

[celestina]

I am a maxed shield hero and was wondering if shield and parry would be able to block styles or just normal attacks. There has always been the debate of if it possible or impossible. Was in thidranki sometime back and i did block once in awhile but didnt pay enough attention to see if it was styles or not. Think 1.53 is going to do something about parry and shield too not sure about that thou any input would be welcome

 

[old.Patrick-S]

i can only go on what ive heard.. dont have any experience myself but frm what i hear shields and parry cant stop styles yet but are going to as you said in 1.53

 

[old.Greggor]

Need to look at the us borads

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[old.willowywicca]

You can block styles!

You can parry styles!

You have a massively reduced chance of doing either!!

Basically, you block/parry non-styles like normal.. but for styles the to hit bonuses they have mean you have a very very tiny chance of blocking/parrying. That said, I parried bullveye 3 times in a row and since he was doing nothing before we started I presume he musta been styling. (you can't tell if he was or not since when you parry an attack there's never a style-trail left behind it..)

Mal

 

[old.Patrick-S]

ahhh sorry my bad just heard people say it didnt work mustve just mean doesnt work all that well

 

[old.Anpu]

Q: How do blocking and parrying work?

A: Both of these skills use dexterity, and the quality of your shield/weapon, to create a numerical value. That value is compared to your opponent’s weapon skill value to determine your chances to block or parry. If the numbers are equal, your base chance is determined entirely by your skill level. Also, before this comparison happens, the game looks to see if your opponent is in your forward arc – to determine that arc, make a 120 degree angle, and put yourself at the point.

Dual wielders throw an extra wrinkle in. You have half the chance of shield blocking a dual wielder as you do a player using only one weapon. Your chance to parry is halved if you are facing a two handed weapon, as opposed to a one handed weapon.

If you have multiple attackers, your chance to parry any one attack (which is determined in part by your skill in parry) will be divided by the number of attackers. Blocking is a little different – your chances of blocking multiple opponents partly depends on the size of your shield. (One opponent for small, two for medium, three for large.) You will have no chance to shield block any more than that number in any given round of combat.

So what did we do in 1.52 to increase your chances of blocking or parrying? Well, before this patch, the game was artificially inflating the number of opponents. (For instance, if you were being attacked by one person, the game was counting that player AND his groupmates as opponents against you, even if that guy’s group was nowhere nearby. There were other factors as well, but that was the biggest problem right there.) So for blocking, if one guy was swinging at you, but he was grouped with four people, the game would decide you had five attackers, and your small shield might “block” someone who wasn’t actually hitting you. And for parrying, obviously the division mentioned above would be a much smaller number. Now, the game is only counting people who are actively trying to cause you harm.

But you will never block or parry in RVR as much as you do in PVE, because in RVR you’re almost always facing multiple opponents, and as you can see from the above explanation, the chances to block or parry are directly related to the number of attackers. The change we made in patch 1.52 is most noticeable in one group vs. one group battles, but certainly has an impact in epic scale RVR.

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/Anpu

 

[Bedroc the Hero]

Very nice post Anpu! First I thought I could add something but when I read it again I found out you said it all .

 

[celestina]

Thks for the informative reply...yesterday was in Thirdranki with my NS and same alb...cleric i think blocked my PA which was an eye opener for me ( They cant spec in shield right?) Gave me nasty a surprise lucky for 2 fast feet

 

[Aeternus]

Originally posted by old.willowywicca
You can block styles!

You can parry styles!

You have a massively reduced chance of doing either!!

Basically, you block/parry non-styles like normal.. but for styles the to hit bonuses they have mean you have a very very tiny chance of blocking/parrying. That said, I parried bullveye 3 times in a row and since he was doing nothing before we started I presume he musta been styling. (you can't tell if he was or not since when you parry an attack there's never a style-trail left behind it..)

Mal

Funny you should say that, ive had several very VERY long fights with bullveye... I mean fights where I got 5%hp left and I block/parry 20 times in a row... I think he must be using magic swords or something... he had to use his IP just to get me down 5% more hp...

Is he around here? Id like to know what kinda equipment hes using... maybe its a champ thing, those debuffs actually doing what they are supposed to do...