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liloe

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Ok, I hope this is the right forum (as I'm not posting an SC temp, just a few questions =) )

So I've recently finished my pally, but my experience with it is a bit bad tbh, especially when it comes to templating. For a start, I've made two different temps with the following stats (stats only, items are irrelevant I think)

Temp 1:
Stats
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STR: 100 / 101 (+26) INT: 0 / 75 Hits: 224 / 272 (+72)
CON: 81 / 85 (+10) PIE: 0 / 75 AF: 20 / 50
DEX: 100 / 101 (+26) EMP: 0 / 75 Pow: 0 / 26
QUI: 83 / 85 (+10) CHA: 0 / 75 %PP: 0% / 25%

Resists
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Body: 26 / 26 Energy: 24 / 26 Crush: 26 / 26
Cold: 23 / 26 Matter: 24 / 26 Slash: 26 / 26 (+2)
Heat: 24 / 26 (+5) Spirit: 23 / 26 Thrust: 27 / 26 (+3)
Essence: 0 / 26

Skills
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3 / 11 All Melee Weapon Skills
3 / 11 Crush
4 / 11 Parry
10 / 11 Shield
3 / 11 Slash
10 / 11 Thrust
3 / 11 Two Handed

Other Bonuses
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10 / 10 Melee Combat Speed
11 / 10 Melee Damage
8 / 10 Style Damage

Temp 2:
Stats
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STR: 102 / 101 (+26) INT: 0 / 75 Hits: 316 / 316 (+116)
CON: 93 / 97 (+22) PIE: 0 / 75 AF: 12 / 50
DEX: 101 / 101 (+28) EMP: 0 / 75 Pow: 0 / 26
QUI: 61 / 85 (+10) CHA: 0 / 75 %PP: 0% / 25%

Resists
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Body: 22 / 26 Energy: 19 / 26 Crush: 25 / 26
Cold: 23 / 26 Matter: 25 / 26 Slash: 24 / 26 (+2)
Heat: 25 / 26 (+5) Spirit: 16 / 26 Thrust: 24 / 26 (+3)
Essence: 0 / 26

Skills
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3 / 11 All Melee Weapon Skills
3 / 11 Crush
4 / 11 Parry
10 / 11 Shield
3 / 11 Slash
10 / 11 Thrust
3 / 11 Two Handed

Other Bonuses
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10 / 10 Melee Combat Speed
11 / 10 Melee Damage
8 / 10 Style Damage

Yes I'm pierce spec and I like both temps in some way, so what do you think is more important.

Is 4% less body really that harsh? Does energy and spirit resist matter a lot? and then there is the qui thing.

Items are more or less not an issue, as I can farm money quite fast. Just Sililia might be a no-go :p
 

thergador

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? Does energy and spirit resist matter a lot?

yes as off 1.87 (lotm) you cant afford to have low resists on anything
then there is the qui thing
as long as you have 250 quick (buffed) your fine

dont get me wrong the templates are not to bad but the one with the good resist the HP is too low imo
 

Wazkyr

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Lotm is 1.86 :p

Well hard to judge templates without the items, as charges and procs is VERY important, just look at Malice/Battler.
 

liloe

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Well hard to judge templates without the items, as charges and procs is VERY important, just look at Malice/Battler.

I'm pierce spec =) So I'm using the CW =)

Yer, low resists bothered me aswell- With the 83qui temp I get to 236 buffed quickness, which is just 14 off the 250cap. Considering I have 20% haste (pots) at all times it should work out.

Why is high resists so important with LotM? Especially spirit?

I can tell you the basic arties:

1st: GoV, HFC, Scalars, EDS
2nd: GoV, HFC, Scalars, EDS, BoS

Weapon for both is the pierce CW. Why pierce? Well I want 100dex for shield anyways...or at least I think I should want this.

Also what should I have as hits...is 224 and 316 really such a big difference?

I'm asking, this is my first group tank ever =)
 

liloe

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Ok, I kicked out HFC and put in SoK (to keep the 5% melee speed) as I don't think that melee dmg and style dmg are that crucial for a Shield Pally =)

As you can see, the new version has MUCH more hits, ok'ish qui, even 15pie and overall decent resists. Arties: BoS, SoK, GoV, EDS, Scalars.

So would that fit a pally?

Stats
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STR: 101 / 101 (+26) INT: 0 / 75 Hits: 332 / 388 (+188)
CON: 80 / 91 (+16) PIE: 15 / 79 (+4) AF: 0 / 50
DEX: 106 / 101 (+26) EMP: 0 / 75 Pow: 0 / 26
QUI: 76 / 85 (+10) CHA: 0 / 75 %PP: 0% / 25%

Resists
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Body: 25 / 26 Energy: 19 / 26 Crush: 25 / 26
Cold: 23 / 26 Matter: 20 / 26 Slash: 27 / 26 (+2)
Heat: 26 / 26 (+5) Spirit: 20 / 26 Thrust: 25 / 26 (+3)
Essence: 0 / 26

Skills
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5 / 11 All Melee Weapon Skills
5 / 11 Crush
11 / 11 Shield
5 / 11 Slash
10 / 11 Thrust
5 / 11 Two Handed

Other Bonuses
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5 / 25 Fatigue
10 / 10 Melee Combat Speed
7 / 10 Melee Damage
4 / 10 Style Damage

Then something else. I guess ML5+7 is not that ace if you have ML9+10, right? Also what do you think about the Mana Drain style? Is it worth using it, especially considering the new regen rates incoming in a patch or two. Or would you rather shear your enemy with styles? Anyways, how much endu do they take, cause I don't have any ML's, yet =)
 

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