Paladin Guide, need opinions

[Krako]

Lately ive been buiklding up a pal;y using this guide, hwoever a reaver told me if i built it this way i wouldnt be able to get anywhere....

the guide inmmentioning is here: http://camelotvault.ign.com/?dir=guides/albion&content=2hpally
could someone give constructive criticism on the guide and what i really should do? thanks.

 

[mettrik]

For leveling and PvE groups would say shield a must, Think lot of pallys speccing 2/hand in RvR now, but again depends on the role u want within a RvR group. The way i did it was decided to be BGer (ml8 bodyguard) and have stuck to that. went for the standard spec at time, 42 shield, 48 chant, 39 slash , rest parry.

Again its down to your playstyle and what u enjoy playing,

Good luck and happy hunting

 

[Krako]

ah, id thought people were gonna go that the guide sucked or something, but yes, id agree that sheidls are usefull. however, this guide doesnt exactly use shields, but still, nice constructive criticism, thats all im asking for.

 

[Ocalinn]

9) Realize this. I Sun and Moon DoT damaged that healer I dropped to half health, for 45 seconds he can not Heal/Rez/Cure Dot. I have removed him for 45 seconds from combat and I am dead. Also note I popped FH and IP just to piss the mids off.

a DoT only interrupts the first tick and thats only casted DoTs.

and this:

you can see stealthed people at close range but not select them unless your clicking with the mouse.

you can use nearest target button to target stealthed players.

and afaik 2h weapons are pure str based..

Two hand thrust is the same as crush for pro's and con's except the best race for it is Saracen/.... well ya Avalonian.... right....


this guide is too old and not useful at all for any paladin that plays on a real server. shield is the way to go up to 50 and after youve done all artis and MLs you can respec to 2h imo

 

[Feyd]

For PvE anyway (i havent much experience with Pally in RvR) then Shield is a must.
If you go 2-handed, then you are better off making an armsman, since he can spec higher in Parry than a Pally can, because the pally have to spec in Chants.

Imo then if you want to play a pally, then spec shield at 42 (for slam that gives a nice stun), and either 29 or 39 slash, high chants, rest in parry.
My personal spec on my pally is 48 chants, 42 shield, 39 slash, rest in parry (18'ish).
Some might argue that a lower spec in chants will be enough.
That spec wont get you many kills in RvR - but it will allow you to take quite a beating before you go down - specially in PvE.

 

[Krako]

hmm...very well. but about the part aimed at crush weapons...is it true that people often add resistance to slash based attacks?

 

[Vandar]

Yes, pally shield to 50, then stay shield if you're going to PVE.
Problem with 1-h pally for rvr is the lack of front end dmg. Its fine if they are just expected to wait at the back and bg the casters but of course one of the reasons to get the pally in the group is for end and the assist train will spend alot of time out of range.
With access to DET the best solution is Friar to BG and assist/heal/ST and 2-h pally follow assist, he can even BG the assist if required like savages sometimes do.

 

[Kelio]

Im 44slash 45chant 42shield 10 parry and i do decent damage with that specc (gotta love backslash) i have bodyguard and grapple +15 on skills so one can say i do good in PvE Group RvR and Solo RvR

 

[Krako]

Alright, does bodygard have a requestite? such as how far can i roam fromthe target before theeffect is deactivated? and by the looks of things, assist trains sounds much like a zerg rush, in which you just gangbang one opponent and hope for the best, not exactly strategic is it?

 

[Baldrian]

Alright, does bodygard have a requestite? such as how far can i roam fromthe target before theeffect is deactivated? and by the looks of things, assist trains sounds much like a zerg rush, in which you just gangbang one opponent and hope for the best, not exactly strategic is it?

FOr BG to work you have to be within 500 radius of the person you BG, he also have to stand still(he can still cast spells or melee)

The assist train sounds like 100 ppl. But its prolly in most instances 2 mercs. So the Pally can either stay with the casters BGing and defending against enemy assist train or he can follow the mercs assisting them BGing them give them endurance. I would say it depends on the situation and about if group have a friar BGer or not.

And yes its very much strategy.

 

[Ckiller]

2-h is ALOT and i do mean ALOOT more fun to play.. But to be able to play a 2-h at a good specc u need atleast RR5 id say. But hey thats just me

As a 2-h make sure ure hasted and that u have the availability of a celerity proccin sword

 

[Erulin]

My pally is 50 shield - 29 slash - 46 chants - rest parry (fully autotrained and never had problems finding groups due to being full shield all the way.)

With a Mastery of Blocking at 4 and MoParry at 3, I must say I can take one hell of a beating in PvE. If I use my cleric to back her up, she's nearly unkillable (36 rejuv - 42 enhance, no need to get 50 enhance as I prefer yellow buffs and good heals to red buffs and crappy heals.)

Problem with a very high shield spec is you hardly ever see your armor get hit but you run through shields faster then a streaker cross Hyde Parc.

I've never seen GoV proc, though I hardly ever RvR with my Pally anymore. She is mostly used to tank on ML's and Arti-raids.

Having Bodyguard and a high shield spec helps out. Bodyguard doesn't work against arrows but Guard does... gives that extra bit of protection for a caster that way.

But it's all to do with what you want your pally to do ofc.


Anyway hope you enjoy playing a Holy Tank, I know I do

Erulin the Bloody

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

I don't know how u got 42 buffs and 36 rej at same time, but imo 44 enhance/30 rej is the best PvE spec for a cleric red spec AF and still spread heal

 

[Erulin]

Nerf being at the office and not being able to log in to check you stats. Must be 33 rejuv then, the yellow small one.

42 enhance gives the red int buff I need fer my sorc, don't seem to need red AF on the pally really.

Erulin the Bloody

 

[shaark]

My pally is 42 shield 44 slash 43 chants (last end chant) 16 parry u go with all skills caped is a most shield and parry caped and stay s/s and if u wana go 2h roll an arms and if u really wana do rvr spec on crush Imo u can do lots of dmg and u have lots of stuns wich help u to deal some back and side styles

I have malice and 101+ str so i can do like 200-250 dmg on a regular melee fight wich is ok for a pally , and if u wana do rvr high slash is a must pally cant deal to much dmg

If u wana do pve go 50 shield and high chants will help allot