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MxN

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How does Pa dmg work?

ive got 50 +17 CS Bladeshade and my Pa's rly do suck ;/

it to do with meh ws ?
 

MxN

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Gryni said:
you suck :<

Fu hangover fromhell ;<
Well its Cs based but mine rly does suck so i want answers¬
 

Twist

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As long as you've got a composite weapon spec of 50 or more then you weapon skill wont affect your PA anymore as base damage will be capped (the basic principal of Wyrd's theory). Increasing your ws further would help to ensure your PA lands more often by increasing your chance to penetrate the targets defenses (reduces chance of miss or hit being parried or blocked) but that's not the problem here.

As you're specced 50 CS then the additional style damage is also capped so the only way to increase your PA damage would be:

1. Increase your str (as blades damage is 100% str based)
2. Get a slower weap (frontload etc)
3. Get a higher qua weap

However, tbh, the easiest thing is to accept PA damage has been nerfed to the point it's fucking laughable (I hit someone for 2000+ once, lucky to hit for 200 now) and move on :(
 

Dracus

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Your PA cap is calculated something like this(might have been updated a bit)

Perforate Artery Cap = 75 + Critical Strike Spec * 9 + Nonstyle Cap
Backstab II Cap = 45 + Critical Strike Spec * 6 + Nonstyle Cap
Backstab I Cap = ~5 + Critical Strike Spec * 14 / 3 + Nonstyle Cap

As for reaching that cap...more +skill to CS, higher stats are best ways to increase the chance of reachin cap dmg(from what I understand ;))

/Dracus
 

Fuaip

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Might depend on your template.. Maybe it has bad +damage and so but i dunno.. :)
 

Maril

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I find PA doing decent damage with usually 400 - 500 on chain and 600+ on casters, but most importantly is the follow up 7 sec stun and penetrate BT. Using blades, however, is never good damage on anything except mid light classes or casters.
 

Ziz

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repair ur weapons, be lucky,use the right weapons
 

Neffneff

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PA well...for increasing PA cap you want to:

1. increase CS spec
2. get slower weapon
3. have more ToA +melee dmg

to reach more reliable high numbers with PA (not cap) you want to:

1. all of the above
2. more ToA +style dmg
3. have a higher dmg stat (i.e. str for blades)
4. use the right weapon..i.e. using a heater on an assasin will see higher PAs due to low sists.
5. attack weaker opponants..cloth wearers..particulary unbuffed ones.
6. go get some melee relics..they always do the trick of getting you near or on cap.
7. respec pierce ;P


think that covers it, sorry if i forgot anything obvious.
 

Neffneff

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Twist said:
However, tbh, the easiest thing is to accept PA damage has been nerfed to the point it's fucking laughable (I hit someone for 2000+ once, lucky to hit for 200 now) and move on :(

awwww bless.

sidenote: would love to see a screeny of a 2000+ PA tbh.
 

Thornea

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Got a screenie of a 1700 PA (Huge crit) - insta kill on rr6 caster yesterday but thats SB with 2h sun sword.
 

Chrstffr

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Mxn said:
How does Pa dmg work?

ive got 50 +17 CS Bladeshade and my Pa's rly do suck ;/

it to do with meh ws ?

even with 44+16 CS and 99% spirit legendary, my PA seems to do pretty decent damage, but ofcourse i rock and you suck! LOL

http://www.chrstffr.frac.dk/dmgpic.jpg

all these screenshots are taken from rr1 to rr5
 

Twist

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Neffneff said:
awwww bless.

sidenote: would love to see a screeny of a 2000+ PA tbh.

I'll see if I can find it, tbh it was on a caster sitting down and i'd guess he didn't have his af buff up but it was still sweet :)
 

balkeriz

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ones had a screenshot of a PA i did as lvl 24 sb in Thid on a lvl 20 caster with none armor's. 2H sword.... The PA was over 1000 dmg.
 

Frozodo

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i do huge amount of dmg as well on PA, normally when iwas piercer it was between 600 - 1k without crits but lefthand kick in... and with blades i havent notice the a different same amout of dmg :)

im 50cs+16 and got 340str buffed
 

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