PA Damage :(

Punishment

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Hi ... ive been a little dissapointed with my Nightshades Perforate artery damage as of late and i was wondering if anyone knew of ways to increase it ???

My spec is @ RR5 :

36+15 Blades
44+15 Critical Strike
35+15 Stealth
31+15 Celtic Dual
32+15 Envenom

Damage RA'S are :

Mastery of Pain 3
Aug Str 3 (343 Str buffed)

I usually only get 400 max on non-caster visuals and 700 or so on casters below rr5 :(

Which i find crap as i garrotte for 300 alot of the time :D

Also i use malice mainhand and champ blade offhander ... any tips ???
 

Gear

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PA damage is stupidly low on some targets even at 50+18 CS spec. Taking into consideration the fact that it's the most difficult style to perform I keep thinking that might be better to just go 50 CD instead.
 

Thlauni

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Well speaking as a low RR mage in a non-template it can hurt. I even managed to be one shotted by a shadowblade (1100 ish damage)

Thats what you get from running around alone in the forrest.
 
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PA on anything not wearing cloth is similar to critshot damage (at least from my knowledge) ie: ~400-500 depending on target abs / af / resists. But here comes the funny part, if the target has malice2 up, damage is cut in half (rare ocassions tho), if target has WH up then critshot will still hit for full damage (as rest of bow shots) whereas PA and rest of styles will suffer greatly from this. If you experience some really low perfs on archers as example (ie: 500 style damage was blocked by xxxx magic shielding or smth).
And as PA being hardest style to get... I would say is easier to position yourself to intercept someone coming your way than "hoping" the one you want to critshot wont move or wont face you (in case is wearing a shield, even a small one unspecced will do most of times).
So both have upsides and downsides, but PA requires more skill from the player in order to land, where CritShot is fully dependant on what enemy do (even after you fired arrow), if he moves = normal hit, if he turns 180 front arc toward your shooting direction and wears a shield = almost guarantee no hit at all.
Give something in bow like evade chain from CS assasins have pls, with abs debuff and very high grow rate! :p
You evade xxxx attack and shoot him with your bowstyle after evade for 800 damage!
Xxxx armour crumbles before your eyes revealing weak points!
You prepare to fire afterevade bow style!
>>> note the 1.5 s cap here <<<
You fire your bow using afterevade bow style follow up Pwndamageinc and hit xxxx for 1.283 damage!
You stealth your bow xxxx being allready dead cursing at mythic for this new oped bow skills and QQing on irc and FH about how oped archers are!
Archers need love, dont hold back, give it to them!!!! :> :fluffle:
 

Spamb0t

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bah pa does way too much dmg vs my menta atleast!
been 1shot a couple of times when running around unbuffed :x
not that buffs would help really then, i would still die in 2 hits or so :p
 

Girafmad

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i sometimes get 1 hitted on my fully toa'ed rr4 ani by sb's they hit me for 1600 damage on pa.. silly that they can 1 hit casters.. dunno how your damage can be that low...
 

Influenza

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Girafmad said:
i sometimes get 1 hitted on my fully toa'ed rr4 ani by sb's they hit me for 1600 damage on pa.. silly that they can 1 hit casters.. dunno how your damage can be that low...


Its because 2h PAs got a huge damage boost last patch , normal 1h PAs supposedly got a damage boost also but ive yet to notice it.
 

Skaven

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Influenza said:
Its because 2h PAs got a huge damage boost last patch , normal 1h PAs supposedly got a damage boost also but ive yet to notice it.

Yep, 2h pa's ive seen land for over 1000 easy, 1h pa's still seem the same to me, ive yet to see the diffrence in damage on my infil.
 

Raimo

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Girafmad said:
i sometimes get 1 hitted on my fully toa'ed rr4 ani by sb's they hit me for 1600 damage on pa.. silly that they can 1 hit casters.. dunno how your damage can be that low...
2Handed PA of Dh0om :flame:

Gif NS ability to use 2H weaps aswel :p
 

Neffneff

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just respec to higher CS, and get MoP4 bud, it'll do your PAs the world of good. Although since ToA +AF started working, all dmg, PAs especially, have taken a large reduction.
 
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Neffneff said:
just respec to higher CS, and get MoP4 bud, it'll do your PAs the world of good. Although since ToA +AF started working, all dmg, PAs especially, have taken a large reduction.


Yah think Neff said it quiet well. High MoP and higher CS spec is what will increase ur PA damage, of course higher str will increase it aswell.

Haven't played my NS in a long time but I remb PAing ppl for 1000-1500 dmg depending on class and crits.
 

Solari

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How many retards actuallyy charges malice with no enemies spotted? o_O
Or even if you saw the stealther you pop malice and wait for him to rip you apart 20 seconds later? ^^
 

Spamb0t

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Solari said:
How many retards actuallyy charges malice with no enemies spotted? o_O
Or even if you saw the stealther you pop malice and wait for him to rip you apart 20 seconds later? ^^
or maybe if hes in a fight he use it ?!
 

Meradesh

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I know it's not viable , but have any ns tested PA with a slow staff a this patch?
 

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