OMG Greece?

Ch3tan

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Well fuck me, anything is possible it seems.

I feel so gutted for the czechs, but no matter how well they played, they didnt do the job tonight and paid for it.

If Greece win this thing, I hope they are not written off as lucky and one-off's or their competitors labelled as poor.
 

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The German Coach of the Greeks is the only one that, when he coached a club in germany promoted with that club from 2nd to 1st division and in the season after promoting he won the german championship. He is good with underdogs :)
 

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I hope to God the Greeks win this tourney, and that's regardless of Portugal beating England.
 

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Now there is a german coach and a german refree in the finals just the team is missing ;)
 

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Arya said:
Now there is a german coach and a german refree in the finals just the team is missing ;)

I'm surprised they'd allow that. I wonder if UEFA appointed Markus Merk thinking there was no chance of Greece making the final.
 

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Sounds like something UEFA would do. Bunch of useless idiots they are.
 

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mank said:
I'm surprised they'd allow that. I wonder if UEFA appointed Markus Merk thinking there was no chance of Greece making the final.

Like appointing a Swedish refree for the game Por-Ned after the dutchies kicked the swedes out ? :p
 

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Arya said:
Like appointing a Swedish refree for the game Por-Ned after the dutchies kicked the swedes out ? :p
Or a swiss ref after england had beaten switzerland 3 nil
 

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That's different though, as you're always going to have cases in history where referee x is of the nationality y and is refereeing team y against team z who beat team y 5-0 in 1956 or something ridiculous.

The point is that you shouldn't really have a referee of the same nationality as anyone involved in either team, at international level that should be a given.
 

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Fair play to Greece. I've been well impressed wit hthe Czechs so far but Greece were well organised and played to their strengths. Real determination too. It just shows that poncey mad-skillz aren't everything and the pretty-boy teams should go away and die of botty-diseases.
 

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Of the 'top ten' European national teams in FIFA's rankings only Holland made the last four of the competition. I think what this and Greece's excellent run shows is how undermotivated or played out the top players are.

Maybe we shouldn't be surprised as the best players earn their wages and establish their (marketable) reputations with their clubs for whom they play a lot of football each season. So when it comes to the big international competitions they've nothing to prove, and little money to make (comparatively).
 

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I watched the highlights, and when you see how close the Czechs came, and how many good saves and deflections kept the Greeks in the game its scary. The Czechs are such a good attacking side, they just couldnt find the net for once. Its s shame for the older players in the squad, like Poborsky, as thats probably his last chance at international glory.

One thing about the Greek style of play, and not wanting to take anything away from them. They are dirty, lots of fouls and they get away with it. I dont think they will in the final and that may ruin their chances.
 

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My mate got the Greeks in the sweepstake at work and he was gutted. He is the one in the office now who is laughing :(

The thing with the greeks is that, really the players are average but the Manager (Take Note Sven you Cock) gets them playing as a team. Sticking to the plan (Take note aagain Sven) and there is no one individual who is picked out who is the manager cock licker (Take Not Sven you have 3) which isnt good for Team (Take Note of Team again Sven)!
 

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Darth, I'll tell you what Sven will have noted: a tight defence and packed midfield spending the whole game defending and nicking a goal to win 1-0. All this will do is make him more determined to carry on in the same piss poor tactical route. Not that it actually is bad tactically, just dismal to watch.

As pleased as I am for the Greeks at their achievement you can hardly call it a victory for football. The Czechs were the only team attacking last night, the Greeks won through stifling boring football.
 

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One thing about the Greek style of play, and not wanting to take anything away from them. They are dirty, lots of fouls and they get away with it. I dont think they will in the final and that may ruin their chances.

I dont think that u have right here. We make some fouls becuase of our pressing and this is logical. But we must notice that never a Greek player has made a really nasty foul and noone has taken red card so far. This is soccer not basketball.Fouls are to be made :)

Greece's playstyle is to press on all the field and make counter attacks. If u really want to see boring game watch England when is winning (btw i am really great fun of England but i am so pissed with your coach. he managed to make u play like Italy and u dont deserve it ). I dont think that yesterday's game was boring. Both teams was running and a lot of chances were made on the 90 min and on the first 15 that Greece scored.

Ofc Chezh has 4-5 chances to score especially in the second half but this is logical. I told it from the beggining that Chezh was by far the best team in this Euro. The 5 in front are really on fire and it is logical for Greece to not be able to make lots of chances .But on the 15 min after the 90 Greece has 3 great chances to score before Dellas manage to score. Dont forget it .

In any case Greece has made a great success here and i am proud for this team. This is our first Euro after 1980 and our group was difficult even to dream for a win. Otto helped us a lot and managed to make us a team. The quality of Greek players aint that bad but they never managed to play as a team so far. Otto successfuly organised the team and here we are now. On the final.

PS: if u want state your believe for the final on this thread :)
https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=22750
 

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Bad teams do not get to the finals of major competitions. Fact.

Greece deserve to be there and good luck to them.
 

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Gurnox said:
Bad teams do not get to the finals of major competitions. Fact.

My very own (and very poor) Aston Villa team got to the FA Cup final a few years ago. A poor Argentina team got to the World Cup final in 1990. There are probably other examples as well, not least various boring and unimaginative German teams that have won competitions over the years.

Yes I am pleased that Greece have done so well, but let's not pretend they play scintillating attacking football. They know how to defend and knick a goal.
 

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My very own (and very poor) Aston Villa team got to the FA Cup final a few years ago. A poor Argentina team got to the World Cup final in 1990. There are probably other examples as well, not least various boring and unimaginative German teams that have won competitions over the years.

Yes I am pleased that Greece have done so well, but let's not pretend they play scintillating attacking football. They know how to defend and knick a goal.

Who says that attacking football is good football? Have you seen a Kevin Keagan team lately?

Greece know more than just how to knick[sic] a goal. They are a very disciplined team who press the opposition at every opportunity. An extremely well managed team who have been underrated throughout the entire competition.

Scintillating schmintillating. They have beaten every 'world class' team who has come up against them.

Has anyone else noticed that all of their goals have all come from balls from the right? You would have thought someone would have sussed by now and marked the fuck out of their right winger......

Aston who?
 

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The reason why Greece have been doing so well is partly because no-one expects them to, and the fact they're nothing more than a solid team. They have no fancy stars or big names that keep the media pressuring them, they're just a bunhc of good football players that gel well together - and under a very good manager.

They'll beat Portugal I reckon. They've got nothing to lose and no pressure on their heads. You watch all the coverage talk about Portugal's 'star' players again... star players will never make a good football team unless they can learn to play together properly. Portugal have shown in this tournament that they have underperformed in every area, they're capable of so much more than we've seen and we won't see it sunday.
 

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In all honesty, it hasn't been much of a tournament, and the fact that Greece are in the final proves it. I'm not putting them down, but seriously, if the usual suspects in Europe were on form this year then I doubt Greece would've made it past the quarters. They have been lucky in a few ways, two of them being poor opposition (France, for instance) and a last-minute goal against the Czechs, which didn't totally go against the flow of play but I think everyone expected the Czechs to score first. This is only my opinion of course, but I just think that Greece have been lucky this year due to the quality of play in the tournament being a bit low.
 

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Gurnox said:
Who says that attacking football is good football?

I do. Man marking, closing players down, work ethic football is all well and good. But don't pretend it makes a team a "great" side. The best Greek players are hardly of Premiership quality, but their strengths are that they play for each other and put the effort in.

Like I've said before I am very pleased for them and have a lot of respect for their achievement. But I hope to high heaven they don't win as it will just spawn more defensive stifling football teams which really are boring to watch. Great if they are your side and they win, but piss poor stuff for a neutral to watch.

EDIT: It's worth reminding people that Greece are in the final after mustering a mere six goals in five fixtures. That they're in the final is the stuff of legends, but their football is hardly legendary.
 

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Ofc Greece was lucky. Without luck u cant do anything on such competitions. But this course to the final isnt just luck only

PS;I hope to be extremelly lucky on the fianl also :)
 

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