NS/infil/sb...with FZ...am i the only one who thinks thats op?

knock

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As a guy who only plays a scout hehe...(apoligies for being bias)

The fact that a scout,hunter,ranger has weaker melee, no posions,no pa, and normally loses to an sb/infil/NS alot of the time 1 vs 1 (unless ur melee where u might aswell say goodbye to ur arrows) an advantage ranged stealthers had was FZ...sumthing the melee type stealthers cant get and sumthing that helps a ranged char win...well now they have it too...i just cant say thats fair...

P.S never written msg before so im a forum virgin hehe
would love to hear all u sb/infil/NS players reply :)
 

Golly

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your QQing about the wrong thing

rangers with pd5 wh som ip battler and wg is whats worrying me- i like my minstrels advantage

the ranger zerg is gonna be unkillable in melee now :<
 

Alhanna

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Doubt FZ will come the way of the assassin but I do believe they should be able to buy Ignore Pain. Maybe I am just Neske (Crap) but when fighting say a Ranger I lose 90% of the time if they are a good rr mostly due to them being melee with FZ/IP/Dual and phase shift.

I believe that if you are an archer class that you should be made to spec in a good ammount of archer skill making melee a pure last resort back up.

When I did play my scout and with her being a ranged attacker only FZ and other toys for me were a means of escaping.
 

xxManiacxx

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like I would ever switch poisonspike and aemez poison for FZ :moo:
 

sedde

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xxManiacxx said:
like I would ever switch poisonspike and aemez poison for FZ :moo:



mani, ps is going for 15 min timer tho !
 

Wazkyr

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5 min timer on dotmine > 15 min timer on fz
The 6x 120 extra dmg from dotmine just is very very nice. And the cooldown on 15 min for FZ dosnt really fit my playstyle on inf. Id guess most assasins would stay spymaster, as soj is all about waiting very long for timers. Mess psn is just a big boost, but is on a to big reuse timer imo as you cant save it when you log.
I dont find PS very usefull as ppl just keep hitting if you use it to esscape and then kills when it fades.
 

Andrilyn

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Wazkyr said:
I dont find PS very usefull as ppl just keep hitting if you use it to esscape and then kills when it fades.

Just a random question but..
If you have PS on and a heal buff thing from a Cleric if someone hit's you then will the heal buff proc? Or because the hit is "resisted" would that mean the proc doesn't go off aswell?
 

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Alhanna said:
Doubt FZ will come the way of the assassin but I do believe they should be able to buy Ignore Pain. Maybe I am just Neske (Crap) but when fighting say a Ranger I lose 90% of the time if they are a good rr mostly due to them being melee with FZ/IP/Dual and phase shift.

I believe that if you are an archer class that you should be made to spec in a good ammount of archer skill making melee a pure last resort back up.

When I did play my scout and with her being a ranged attacker only FZ and other toys for me were a means of escaping.

Amen. Rangers just need a good fat nerf for the reasons above. Like you said, if you roll a bow class you should be forced to use your bow as your primary weapon of choice, so maybe some love in that department would entice players back to speccing in bow.
 

Wazkyr

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Andrilyn said:
Just a random question but..
If you have PS on and a heal buff thing from a Cleric if someone hit's you then will the heal buff proc? Or because the hit is "resisted" would that mean the proc doesn't go off aswell?
Afaik after alot of focus/pet killing, healproc only works on sucessfull hit. And if you attack a PSed person its a miss, aka no proc. Thou friar healproc works diffrent (eg it can proc on block, witch clerics cant) so there might be a chance it work with friar healproc.
 

Spamb0t

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doubt many assassins will change to sojo, as the dottrap/aemez is very powerful compared to 15mins timer fz, i sure wouldnt change atleast

just funny when they were whining how op fz is, and now when they can get it i still doubt they will :p
 

Moaning Myrtle

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I can see Sniper and Hybrid scouts keeping Soj, but the melee types (Dafft & Jarvio etc.) will no doubt opt for Warlord, simply because ML10 is a fight winner on top of all the other abilities.
 

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Andrilyn said:
Just a random question but..
If you have PS on and a heal buff thing from a Cleric if someone hit's you then will the heal buff proc? Or because the hit is "resisted" would that mean the proc doesn't go off aswell?
In answer to your question, no the proc wont fire since the enemy missed you but if you have a shield with a reactive proc, that will still have a chance of proccing if you block the hit
 

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