not quite perfect? I'd say

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Xavier

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Ok, so the game is out in the US, and I'm sure there are lots of you out there who have acquired it via less than legitimate means so by now I expect there are more than a few barrypeeps playing...

Being an uber-lucky sod (and having a legit version as I do :D) I've tried to have a play but have hit more than a few proverbial brick walls with what can only be descrived as a STACK of bugs... Scooting over to the official forums (nwn.bioware.com) and having a good read of their technical support threads all I can say is that I'm amazed with the number of problems people are experiencing in general... having read solidly proportion of it over nearly two hours I still think I've only touched on 40% of the problems people are experiencing.



1. Patching issues
Hopefully this will be fix0red before it gets it's retail release this side of the pond later this week... in short patching is an utter nightmare for a lot of users. If you didn't know already there is already a new patch for download to address some of the more serious bugs and guess what - yes there are a few bugs in the patching process itself.

Some users are finding the patching itself fails on a particular file and have had to reinstall several times - the claim from bioware is that these files have been corrupted on their pc's - do I need to point out that this is the digital era? when files are copied across we don't end up with a rough approximation, the copy is exact, and the number of users reporting this specific problem is in the hundreds :(

Others are getting the rather ominous error of:

Can not find patch file: /neverwinternights/nwn_pc_english_from1116711_to1186718.md5
The patch has been aborted

which has no known cure - a reinstall doesn't fix it, and even biowares manual patching application fails in this circumstance... oh goodie...

2. Graphics

Apart from Voodoo5 5500 users not being able to play the game at all ATI users are having to roll back to pre-catalyst drivers to get any stability from their systems, ati/amd/w2k combo users don't stand a chance according to a lot of users (some have made the leap to upgrade/dual booting with XP just so they can play). Some nVidia users under winME specifically have experienced a total loss of textures or just some items being 'randomly coloured black'... which is nice :eek:


3. savegames

this has to be one of the most frustrating, and it believed to be a part of the file corruption issue... but basically a lot of people are finding their savegames corrupted randomly which means either having to take regular backups of all the files or if you weren't so well planned having to start all over again.


4. CD Keys

For those who can actually get the game running and patched successfully there is one massive hurdle still remaining.

It seems that warez monkeys have already got access to a key generator which is generating legitimate keys, bioware have implemented a system which logs which users are using which keys and multiple users on any keys means a blacklist...

what this has meant in a lot of cases is people getting games home, installing, playing for a few hours, *trying* to jump online and finding that 8+ others are using a key which has now been blocked.





This is just a teeny part of the storm brewing on the official forums, and it's a crying shame as NwN has the capability to deliver a LOT...

It has to be said however that I've never seen so many complaints/problems/issues on a game support forum which has been running for such a short period.

I thought it was just a bunch of whiny yanks (no offense meant ;)) but having experienced a few of the above issues myself it has to be said that things look very bleak indeed :(
 
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ShockingAlberto

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Hmm, maybe they'll have got these things sorted by the time a Linux release is ready...

However that sounds bad - The CDKEY thing would really piss me off. Warez is hardly the devil, however when it's stopping you playing with a legitimate copy... :eek:
 
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Xavier

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I agree - I'm going to be shouting down the phone at Interplay tomorrow about the whole fiasco - watch this space.

Xav
 
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granny

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On the flip side of this is the 1000's of people who've had no problems at all. Every game that gets released has issues and you've got to remember just how many people will have gone out and bought/warezed NWN as soon as possible.

I've had almost no problems at all, no installation trouble, no patching problems and not a single graphics hitch. I've had a couple of crashes (and I mean a couple - 2 crashes in about 30 hours of gameplay total) - one time my rogue henchman just started running towards a trap to disarm it when I used the stone of recall so we teleported back to town and he was still in "disarm trap" mode and ran off into the distance to find a non-existant trap, *boom* crash hehe :) And one scripting error in a fight with about 30 mobs. Other than that not a sausage, overall I'm very impressed with the stability and bug-freeness.

In terms of gameplay I generally love it but there's a few things that could be improved on. The henchman AI needs work, no question, it can be a real pain getting him to unpick locks, disarm traps etc especially when there's mobs about, he gets confused easily poor chap.

Also the roleplaying aspect of it seems a bit limited - I'm a paladin for instance yet I have happily wandered into innocent noble's houses, killed their guards, robbed them blind, threatened them and extorted money etc out of them with nary a single penalty - hardly "lawful good" behaviour :(

I have to say too that I think the single-player story lacks depth a bit. It hasn't got the same epic feel that Baldur's Gate had and it's a million miles away from the masterpiece of storytelling and characterisation that was Planescape: Torment. But then I suppose the multiplayer side of it gives it the potential (hopefully) to outstrip those, given time.
 
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Sar

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Originally posted by Xavier
I agree - I'm going to be shouting down the phone at Interplay tomorrow about the whole fiasco - watch this space.

Xav

Hmm, here's hoping they have the patch issues sorted out for Friday.
 
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Phazed

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Oopz... wrong forum. Geez, must have been tired... :rolleyes:

:D
 
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Sar

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Originally posted by Phazed
Well... any of you guys played Daggerfall? ;)

Then you know what to expect. Though I played Daggerfall 'till I turned every stone... you know, it was before I had an internet connection. :p

I hope to get my hands on Morrowind by tomorrow. Crossing my fingers... please let me be one of the 'lucky ones'!

The first patch is out already, check the official site.

Any do's or don't's I should know about before starting:confused:

Don't like fecking up my character at the beginning, but I do like to play the game another way that the standard goodygoodguy Palladin or the default evil assassin / thief...

Greetings,

Phazed

Er....

:confused:
 
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Xavier

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Originally posted by Phazed
Well... any of you guys played Daggerfall? ;)

Then you know what to expect. Though I played Daggerfall 'till I turned every stone... you know, it was before I had an internet connection. :p

I hope to get my hands on Morrowind by tomorrow. Crossing my fingers... please let me be one of the 'lucky ones'!

The first patch is out already, check the official site.

Any do's or don't's I should know about before starting:confused:

Don't like fecking up my character at the beginning, but I do like to play the game another way that the standard goodygoodguy Palladin or the default evil assassin / thief...

Greetings,

Phazed


Dude!

WRONG FORUM!
 
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Skyler

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Runs fine for me.

Patched fine for me.

Hasnt crashed for me.

It is a shame the Keygen that Deviance made is generating keys that can be used online, normally keygens dont gen keys that are valid online :p
Now a lot of warez people who would of bought the game to play it MP with a legit key wont, as they have a keygen that gens them a "legit" key which works fine online.
I myself will be buying the game, but until then the *cough* warez *cough* version will serve me fine.

I wouldnt be using the warez copy at all if some people would sort out universal release dates, so sick of yanks getting a headstart in games over us.

Anyway, good game :)

Well worth buying, so all of you who have it but not paid for it, then get your arses out on friday and buy the fecker :)
 

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