No wonder there's no clerics here.

[andyr00barb]

/rant on

Just logged out of thid with my friar. Done so many rezzes during my friars time there that it's silly. That includes idiot armsmen that like to take close looks at master of runes', so many infils that didn't get away but gave it their best shots, wizzis that you can't heal in time cos they die so quick, sitting inside a keep for 3 hours during a defence doing rez after rez. I've never turned down a rez request, done rezzes that put me in danger all the time.

/rant off

insert thanks to dvarf for running power song all the time and allowing me to rez/heal the above peeps

/rant back on

Then, just now, I end up getting grief from the chat group for not immediately responding to a rez. What's more I get told by the other rezzer in thid that he won't be rezzing me if I were to die (not really a biggy being as you can bind in sauvage). Rez request came mid fight and had scrolled of screen by time I'd stopped fighting. I'm a friar, if I see someone who needs healing I'll heal em. If the time is right I'll rez em. Simple as that. Never told someone "No, won't rez you!" Never mind I'm specced for fighting as it is.

It's hardly a wonder there's no clerics there. They probs got grief for not rezzing when out of mana or sometjing.

I don't really have a point, other than you can do a thousand rezzes and it doesn't matter if you miss one 'cos you'll get abuse.

I'm tempted to say "sod it, I won't rez people any more", but that feels wrong to me

/rant off


Cheers
Whirly
lvl 24 Friar

P.S. Does Emely post on these forums? She's an ickle kobby hunter and a good one at that. Had a nice couple of duals with her as my scout

 

[old.chesnor]

Yeah, I had the same shite with my cleric in Thidranki. You've just got to realise that ~50% of people playing this game are just ignorant and selfish muppets.

Now that there is a bindstone @ sausage, its quicker to release and port back than to lay there msging the 1 or 2 ressers "res me plz!!1". They will probably be oop or busy. And more importantly, trying to have some fun. Running around Thidranki all night ressing people is by no stretch of the imagination fun. You can lay there for 5mins waiting for a res, then another 5 waiting for res sickness. If you release straiught away you'll be back in action quicker. Or are you too tight to spend your gold on the medallions???

If you don't have a resser in your group, release. Remember, clerics and friars are there to have some fun. Not to res your sorry ass all night.......

 

[andyr00barb]

Aye, fun is why I'm in bgs. I'm paired with a minstrel all the time with my friar so we're always in search of some 2on2/3/4 action, rather than the mad zergs where armsmen just can't leave mezzed peeps alone.

Will be sad to see my friar go, he's a fun char to play, but the nasty dirty 350 limit approaching quickly (despite spending so much time rezzing peeps, <breathes deeply>)

Anyway, will have an infil in bgs within the next couple of days (looked at number of infils and decided there just weren't enough ;-) ). So everyone be on the lookout for Hasty e.g.
Hasty was killed by anyone that can use a quickbar properly

ttfn

 

[bleurgh]

I would like to apologise to pantofla for kicking off after getting rez but no heal. i should know by now that in thid mana is lean at best and i was well out of order.
i had been rez killed lots and i was getting tired to boot.

Sterling job by all rezzers. at least we got up to run away in slow motion.

and haedric.........excellent job saturday night sunday morning. between you and moya we were in control for a time or two.

while its easy to get involved in the chase sometimes its better to let them go and rest, rather than run at their backup and get buggered. maybe hit and run tactics are best when we low on healers

 

[Turamber]

What annoys me is the silly people who insist on chasing a troll or two not just to the MPK - but to its very doors! Then when they die they spam for rezzes. This has happened every night I've been in Thidranki.

Tried to tell one of these feckless fools what a pointless thing charging to the MPK doors is, and how it was impossible for anyone to rez him -- at which there was a long sentence with a number of rude words in. Apparently its arrogant to point out to people that its suicide to try and solo the MPK guards.

I guess we have a number of genuinely new players to DAOC in Thidranki, and that is good. But if you are reading this people, just listen to what others have to say - okay? We're not trying to reduce your fun ... just keep you alive

 

[CliffyG]

Originally posted by andyr00barb
/Then, just now, I end up getting grief from the chat group for not immediately responding to a rez. What's more I get told by the other rezzer in thid that he won't be rezzing me if I were to die (not really a biggy being as you can bind in sauvage). Rez request came mid fight and had scrolled of screen by time I'd stopped fighting. I'm a friar, if I see someone who needs healing I'll heal em. If the time is right I'll rez em. Simple as that. Never told someone "No, won't rez you!" Never mind I'm specced for fighting as it is.

I waited for 5 mins and asked 3 times (my wife also asked a few times) as i knew you were on even though you were anon for some reason, i hardly said that immediately. In the end i had to release. Although i said i wouldnt rez that was in the heat of the moment as i was annoyed, if i came across your dead body i would've still rezzed you. There was only me and you in the whole of thid who could heal for 25-30 people, in that situation you should be hanging back and healing not chasing a fleeing troll. I was running everywhere to heal/rez anyone who asked and i expect the same of anyone who can heal/rez. When you left i was the only healer for a while and guess what i was doing.

 

[swords]

hmm...i suppose Midgard is lucky in this respec to have an abundance of cave specced Shaman. and the occasional healer to POM the shaman.

perhaps you should lighten up on Smite clerics a little see if that works....

 

[andyr00barb]

Haedric, I genuinely didn't see the rez msgs, or I assure you, that you being another healer would've made the priority list for my mana. I'm coming to the end of my rlm pts limit now so am looking to get out there and fight for a change. Another thing you have to understand is that I'm sitting next to a minstrel who wants to do more than act as ambulance (something he does way to much for his liking and with extraordinary patience), and as such I try to stick as close to him as I can during battle.

All said I'm cool and calm now, look forward to fighting in bgs with ya. The reason I am (and will continue to be) anon is that I'd rather let the primary healers (clerics) get all the rez requests. I know this is an argument that carries no weight in last nights circumstances being as there were no clerics. Generally speaking I do so many rezzes that people come to know my name and don't hesitate to /send me after the battle.

Anyone's free to /send me for a rez, I very rarely disappoint whatever the location (thanks Dvarf, most wouldn't happen without the speed).

Cheers
Andrew

 

[old.chesnor]

Re: Re: No wonder there's no clerics here.

Originally posted by CliffyG


I waited for 5 mins and asked 3 times (my wife also asked a few times) as i knew you were on even though you were anon for some reason, i hardly said that immediately. In the end i had to release. Although i said i wouldnt rez that was in the heat of the moment as i was annoyed, if i came across your dead body i would've still rezzed you. There was only me and you in the whole of thid who could heal for 25-30 people, in that situation you should be hanging back and healing not chasing a fleeing troll. I was running everywhere to heal/rez anyone who asked and i expect the same of anyone who can heal/rez. When you left i was the only healer for a while and guess what i was doing.

That statement basically sums up why Alb has very few ressers in Thidranki.

People assume to tell others how they should be playing. "in that situation you should be hanging back and healing ". Should you presume to tell anyone else to play thier char and what to do in Thindranki? Can Friars with 1 in rejuv or full Smite clerics not steam around Thidranki without a care in the world for their personal safety like Armsmen and Infiltrators do? Just because they have a res spell?

Swords kind of hit the nail on the head too. Cave specced shaman are great fun to play in Thidranki. I have one heading for the bgs on Mid/Excal. At 24 he will have 24 cave magic, 1 mending, 1 augmentation. His healing will blow, but he is no healer. I will res people, but primarily I will be DoTing/diseasing/rooting Albs & Hibs. I am not levelling him so I can speand all my time ressing people who choose to play the more 'fun' classes.

 

[CliffyG]

Re: Re: Re: No wonder there's no clerics here.

Originally posted by old.chesnor
People assume to tell others how they should be playing. "in that situation you should be hanging back and healing ". Should you presume to tell anyone else to play thier char and what to do in Thindranki? Can Friars with 1 in rejuv or full Smite clerics not steam around Thidranki without a care in the world for their personal safety like Armsmen and Infiltrators do? Just because they have a res spell?

If you were one of the 30 people who needed healing then i would imagine you'd want the healer healing too. I have no problem any other time but when there are only 2 healers then it makes sense for them to heal. Having 1 in rejuve is irrelevant, you can still do something which is critical to the success of a fight. Personally i'm quite happy being the sole healer but you have to adapt to the situation.

andyr00barb as i said it was heat of the moment, it was forgotten by the time i ported .

EDIT

Thanks Bleurgh, didnt see that last night .

 

[old.chesnor]

Re: Re: Re: Re: No wonder there's no clerics here.

Originally posted by CliffyG


If you were one of the 30 people who needed healing then i would imagine you'd want the healer healing too. I have no problem any other time but when there are only 2 healers then it makes sense for them to heal. Having 1 in rejuve is irrelevant, you can still do something which is critical to the success of a fight. Personally i'm quite happy being the sole healer but you have to adapt to the situation.

No. This is my point. I took my smite cleric to Thidranki. For most of the time I was the only resser there. I would res anyone I saw fall, and anyone that asked who was reachable (not people @ mpk, or who had died on the hill @ ck from guards). I spent alot of time and effort ressing, and I didn't mind.

What I did mind was people asking for heals not in my group (generally the very same people who say "i will cap too quickly if I group, i solo") or people asking for heals after I have just ressed them.

Even used to get people stand in front of me when I was sitting regenning power spamming "heal plz"..."sit down and you will heal" I said.

I was smite specced. I could get off about 20 smites for a full power bar. That would drop ANYONE in Thidranki. I could probably burn my whole power bar in 3 big baseline heals. So I didn't heal much, my decision, my character.

Albion devalues its healing classes. Take this true story as an example. My smite cleric was soloing orange cons soultorns in DF, I could drop them in 3 spec smites and a bit of melee. Not much downtime with MCL. A group with 1pally, 1armsman, 1wizzy turns up, all my level. Ask me if I want to group. I accept. They then start pulling the soultorns, and when I smite they say "NO SMITE, HEAL PLS". So we kill the same mobs I was soloing, killing them slower, getting lower exp and playing whackamole while the 'dmg dealers' do their stuff. I guess Albion just hates smiters......

 

[CliffyG]

Sorry what is your point exacty? How is that relevant to the situation we had last night?

And as an aside, an smite specced cleric would still be a better healer than me.

 

[allnewdave]

Rezzers get a hard time in rvr full stop.

I dont usually ask for rezz's so anytime i do get em its through peoples good nature. You then start to learn who to guard and look after.

Nods to Lugg, Shadowzerker, Smouldering and Locks.

 

[swords]

Locks...a healer in Thidranki... you are a godsend

 

[Mandar]

I am gonna have to agree with an alb

I play Smouldering, a cave specced shaman and I get it all the time. I tend to play solo out in thid cos I want to last more than 1 day there so its not easy to see who needs healing all the time but if I see anyone fighting and is gonna die I heal, if they will last a few I cast a dot or a DD, occasionally I get it wrong and people die but I res them as soon as pow permits.
There are a few things people should realise though....

1. I made a cave shaman to FIGHT. healing and resing is a bonus skill I use as and when I can for my realm.

2. if you die for example at the hib ruins and we are all fighting in the alb terratory it is going to be quicker for you to release and return, after all you can bind at Svasud now.

3. if there is a large force of albs between me and your body I am not gonna make it to res you and no ammount of pm's is gonna make me a super troll able to single handedly clear a path through the alb army.

botttom line is use some common sense. there is no shame or penalty involved if releasing and a lot of the time its going to be faster for you than getting a res.

_______________________________________
Smouldering BoulderShoulder 24 cave shammy
Kunning Stunt 24 SB (349 rp so is a wave machine)

 

[old.tuppe]

hmm my exp so far whit rm and hunter.
i dont beg or ask more than once ress.
know and read alott soloing people asking ress in cg.

allmost everytime if move whit group, get ress, thanks again for it!
but in water, or some odd place, usually release, have full htp and power, just port back.
fine to see people who are sitting on pad, saying in cg gothis are coming, in this case is faster release and port back, maybe healer/shammy this way can use power better kill one more alb/hibs.

want shammy/healer have fun too, not only ress, ress, buffs please.