No Political debate ?

[Sirex The Virus]

Whats Wrong. Eot Bw had loads some bad, some excellent Arguments For and against mainly Iraq but here are plenty of stuff to talk about... Like who will win the U.S election. I know ppl will go whatever none of are concern but it certaintly is,look at the state of the world even over Bush's charge.

To be honest id prefer to talk about the new EU Constitution. especially from ppl in england since there seems to be a great deal of opposition primarily from the Tory's. What do you people think ? good? bad ? bad at first ? always Bad ? Vote No? Vote Yes? Sorry my poltical knowledge is mainly Irish/US and british. So any european viewpoints would be excellent.

Well i bet your wondering why i havent given my views well thats a good question........................................................<watch this space>

 

[Aoami]

heres politics for you,

BNP

***** or *****?

 

[Raven]

fuck Europe, Fuck the Euro < nothing against European people as they are nice just dont think we should be goverened by them or use thier money. they need us more than we need them.

 

[Sissyfoo]

The one good thing that happened in british politics this week was Blair getting whacked with a condom filled with purple dust. The one bad thing that happened this week was Blair getting whacked with a condom that was filled with purple dust...and not anthrax.

 

[Chilly]

Another bad thing related to TEH PURPLE CONDOM OF DOOM (tpcd) is that now the security in whitehall is getting over more OTT. Wel wake up one day and itl be 1984!!!

No one will have seem the PM for years and all we ever see is videos and radio reports.

If someone wants to kill him then by god at least give him a chance! Theres probably a decent enough reasaon to do it.

 

[Sissyfoo]

I could think of quite a few right now but I'm getting that tingling feeling on the back of my neck which leads me to suspect that a heavily armed group of MI5 agents are about to boot down my door and drag me off to Cuba.

 

[Chilly]

I could think of quite a few right now but I'm getting that tingling feeling on the back of my neck which leads me to suspect that a heavily armed group of MI5 agents are about to boot down my door and drag me off to Cuba.

Spose its common enough for you to know its coming eh sissy?

I think il start a clanger of an argument...

The BNP (heheh), we all know theyr a bunch of right wing fascists with lawyers to keep em out of the shit, but some of their ideas are valid i rekon...to a certian extent.

At the moment we have a ridiculous influx of "asylum seekers" or more commonly known as "benefit leechers" (nice little rhyme) obviously some of these people actually are being persecuted and have subsequently legged it to britain cos they hear nice things about us (cos wer so damn good).

But theres too many! Our country aint big enoigh to handle it, wer only 50million or so. I think we should be more like australia: fuck them all and only let people in who have something to offer, would make for such a better place.

Also, FIGHT THE POWER!! (dunno wot power tho, i just like riots)

 

[Sissyfoo]

What about the people already here who have nothing to offer? Can we kick them out? I'm not talking about immigrants though, I'm talking about the lazy towny shites who sit around all day, starting fights in town and heading down to the pub in the evening to cause some more trouble. Hell, they barely speak the english language either.

I propose we do a massive swap; we take the ayslum seekers (the legit ones) and send a townie or two to take their place in whatever impoverished and oppressed country they come from.

 

[Chilly]

Thats a class A idea, stand for election sissy and il vote for you!

/edit in fact il be your campagn manager! il make your your continuously surrounded by hot poon and cute little babies for maximum pulling power!

 

[Sissyfoo]

Actually, I had the idea that I could win by simpling holding massive election rallies with free beer and nachoes for everyone!

I reckon I'd be a great leader though. My first act as your benevolent dictator for life would be to hold a live news conference with Mistar Bush and kick him really hard in his nut sack! Then I would abolish tuition fees, have all the berea...burero...er, arseholes in Whitehall shot and get some people in who know what the fuck they are doing. Rah!

...then I'd go off on holiday and leave my deputy to sort everything else out whilst I lie in the sun and play CoH and eat good food all day. \o/

 

[Chilly]

or on the other hand, ignore all but the last sentence and still have just as much fun without paying for the unwashed masses to get free beer+nachos!

 

[k9awya]

bnp 4tw

 

[yaruar]

heres politics for you,

BNP

***** or *****?

i think the term you are looking for is neo-fascist scumbags... Although I wholeheartedly support their right to stand up and express their opinions I will be the one vocally standing against them.

I have bittersweet memories of being baton charged by police at Welling years ago when protesting about the BNP HQ/bookshop there.....

 

[Archeon]

Politics’ depresses me, the best person/people for the job/jobs are always the least willing to accept it. The worst are always the ones who want it. Couple that with the fact that just about every member of the 'House of Commons' (and I use the term loosely) has a history in ambulance chasing (lawyers) leads me to wonder if we're deluding ourselves by calling what we live in a democracy.

Ok, I’m probably hypersensitive. Especially with the recent war, etc, etc. But still, you'd be hard-pressed to deny that a worryingly large number of politicians are lawyers

Is that really fair representation for the UK? Do a bunch of people who practice (or miss-practice in most cases these days) law really know what’s best for us? I mean come on; a single condom was enough to bring the House of Commons to a standstill for a day!


Here endeth the rant (which will later be picked apart, proved to be based on mis-information, hearsay and so forth, and don't forget the spelling and grammar errors I’m sure I miss-spelled something)

 

[Sissyfoo]

I'll get the ball rolling.

Ahhh...teh irony of misspelling 'misspelling'.

Meh, that wasn't as much fun as I thought it would be...and I agree with most of what you said anyway.

 

[Chilly]

phillistine sissy!

 

[Archeon]

I'll get the ball rolling.

Ahhh...teh irony of misspelling 'misspelling'.

Meh, that wasn't as much fun as I thought it would be...and I agree with most of what you said anyway.

You'd best shut your mouth bitch or i'll get the lads to PG13 rape you!

 

[Azmath/Delarith]

all they do in hoc is play big boys agueing now its my tern to speak no its mine bla bla bla iam siting higher in teh seeting then u u must lissen to me all bullshit

democrisy lol wtf is that all about no fucking way is england a democrisy lol i know my speeling is shit lol

somthig that rly pisses me off is teh asylem seekers burn them !!!! should do what france does they come to france and the crench fuckers send them to endland then we go hi there awww no u got no money here have a house no no u dont need a job here have some money aaww u can drive how about a car this war we jsut had is also another bit of bullshit only went cos of mr blar brown noiseing mr bush the fagot blar needs to get some bakc bone and stay no fuck u its ur fucking war u deal with it

any way let teh flames begin

ps


BNP should all burn in hell as for as iam concerend they jsut a nazis in fucking suits thats all

 

[Sissyfoo]

Congratulations on making no sense whatsoever!

 

[k9awya]

somthig that rly pisses me off is teh asylem seekers burn them !!!!

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BNP should all burn in hell as for as iam concerend they jsut a nazis in fucking suits thats all

bnp are against immigration

 

[Azmath/Delarith]

yes imagrints that is teh only thing i like about them but the bnp are much much more then that they suck cock and dont like anyone but ppl like thme slefs

 

[yaruar]

bnp are against immigration

and forced repatriation....... which is a major difference. It's possible to be able to be anti immigration and yet not believe that all people of foreign decent should all be sent back to their county of origin. AFAIR the BMP are in favour of sending people who were born here back to the countries of their parents, etc...

We are a nation of immigrants, how far do we go back.... Chuck out the vikings, the normans, the saxons, the angles, the romans, etc, etc, etc.

Immigration is the lifeblood of this country. Britians greatest asset is it's multicultural society and parties like the BNP are misguided in their vision. I'm glad they are a minority party in this country, shows that the majority of people have sense and a modicum of decency left in them.

 

[TeaSpoon]

We are a nation of immigrants, how far do we go back.... Chuck out the vikings, the normans, the saxons, the angles, the romans, etc, etc, etc.

I'm part Italian and Irish, aswell as English. Help meeeeee!

 

[Ning]

We are a nation of immigrants, how far do we go back.... Chuck out the vikings, the normans, the saxons, the angles, the romans, etc, etc, etc.

Every european nation is a nation of immigrants (except maybe scandinavian countries).

 

[Chilly]

the english language itself is one of the most twisted, broken and illogical languages there are, just feel lucky you learn it without trying and that french/italian/germal/spanish etc are so much easier.

 

[Aoami]

The BNP have an estimated 5% of the votes in london, which could win them a seat in the house of Commons.

On the 6th of June there is a free 'Rock agianst Racsim' gig in Finsbury Park, London, Headlined by The Libertines (Billy Bragg & GLC also play) to raise awareness about this fucking monstrosity.

Go, donate, and fuck the BNP.

 

[k9awya]

and forced repatriation....... which is a major difference. It's possible to be able to be anti immigration and yet not believe that all people of foreign decent should all be sent back to their county of origin. AFAIR the BMP are in favour of sending people who were born here back to the countries of their parents, etc...

We are a nation of immigrants, how far do we go back.... Chuck out the vikings, the normans, the saxons, the angles, the romans, etc, etc, etc.

Immigration is the lifeblood of this country. Britians greatest asset is it's multicultural society and parties like the BNP are misguided in their vision. I'm glad they are a minority party in this country, shows that the majority of people have sense and a modicum of decency left in them.

multicultural bollocks is why london crime rates are so high

the government are building a big housing estate where only asians are allowed to live

wtf is multicultural about minority set race ghettos?

 

[Chilly]

Best way to deal with these things is to NOT deal with them imho. Dont go around doing things for asians, or blakc people OR WHITE PEOPLE, just do it for the people who need it doing whatever race.creed they may be.

I think people are getting too politically correct, going beyond being reasonable and its jus getting ridiculous.

Whenever i fill out an application form and it asks "For the purposes of equal opportunities we will now ask you what colour your skin is" i just tick Other and write Human in the space, iv never had a complaint and its never lost me a job because of it. Stuff like that is fucking idiotic and what is making the whole thing so bloody shit!!

Blimey, i sound like an aussie, been reading Ala's drivel too much evidently.

Nighty night

 

[yaruar]

multicultural bollocks is why london crime rates are so high

the government are building a big housing estate where only asians are allowed to live

wtf is multicultural about minority set race ghettos?

Firstly multicoltural "bollocks" has little or nothing to do with the crime rates in london. There is lots of crime in london because it's a huge metropolis with lots of people living in it. There was crime before the first major waves of immigration this century, there is crime in all populations and all areas. High crime rates are a product of social inequality and poverty not of different cultures.

Secondly there are no housing estates being built only for asians. Recently there were reports about a retirment home being built for asians, i think this was somewhat misguided, but there is solid reasoning behind it.

It's lies and misinformation like this which fuel the ignorance which in turn fuels parties like the BNP.

London is one of the least ghettoised cities in the world, communities do tend to grow up around cultural or shared national heritige, but unlike say new york or similar cities these groups coexist happily in the same areas without exclusive areas to themselves.

As Benjamin Zephaniah said recently "there are 100's of languages spoken around the world, sometimes when walking down my street i hear all of them, and this is what makes london a great city"

 

[yaruar]

I'm part Italian and Irish, aswell as English. Help meeeeee!

well you aren't black or asian so if k9's lot got in you might get to stay......

My parents generation were still seeing "no blacks, no irish, no jews" signs everywhere in london, that was less than 40 years ago... As much as the

BNP likes to say they have changed and try to rebrand themselves but their roots are still based around a fictional "british" people who never existed and never will, a utopian vision of the way things used to be. It's the kind of talk that always comes out when people mention the Krays. I'm facinated to hear about how there was no crime back in the days of the gangs of london, and that's just revisionist bollocks...

I'm half irish, maybe that's why racist rhetoric and hectoring gets to me so much.

Don't get me wrong, i'm in favour of national pride and patriotism, although not to the denegration of others......