Nightshade spec

[Nichii]

Had a spec for nightshade in mind, like this:

35+15 stealth
50+15 piercing
35+8 Envenom (boots etc)
39 CD+4
rest CS


Give me responce as to why i WOULD'NT spec this way, and if there's any good point's on that spec... them too plz :touch:

 

[Neffneff]

good point is yer DB wil do more dmg 0o, but as a whole i wouldnt go that way myself, simply because CS styles have higher growth rates than all the otehr lines in the game. to not use these higher dmgin styles seems insane to me. i love running fairly high CD myself for the offhand hits, but would never spec out of CS. high CS good CD, as litle pierce as you can get away with (comp. 51) and some env. lvl to suit your playstyle (i use comp. 37 to free up points to put into CD, but many otehrs would scream fool and go at least 47)

 

[Guinever]

Nightshades dun need stealth k ? it's usless line that givf's u nothin !!!!!!!!!!!!

Other than that go pierce. seriously wot's wrong wit u luri'z slash weapons are too heavy for you. + all the str lowering posions/methods used by the stealthers of the other realm ( Disease, str/con, Malice proc ) u could end up wit 80 str and hit like a little girl wit a teddy.
Pierce, instead of slash is all I can say.

 

[Guinever]

forgot the above post lol, must of read wrong, frogive me please oh luri'z.
been doin alot of whineing today e.t.c, other than that.
lower CD higher CS !!!!!!!!!

 

[Nichii]

right, that's what every1 tell's me, i msut be a fucktard co's i jsut dont understand shit of wat u sayin'.... WTF!! is wrongwith 50+15 piercing, 35+15 stealth, 35+8 env, 39 CD and rest CS???

IN PLAIN ENGALISJH PLZ!

P/S: my nerf, but aint 21 CS (for PA) and then 50 piercing (full DB chain) owned?? noticed that DB chain own'z PA chain, many time's tbh, so jsut have PA for start dmg and then DB for next hits etc,

 

[Eva]

Hamstring chain > db chain.

Wyrd spec is without a doubt best. 51 modified weapon(that means 51 skills including items/rrs, so 36 + 15 if rr etc) 50 modified stealth, 50 cs(imo, tho I've mostly played inf so could drop to 44 without the extra stat points) 50 modified envenom if you can spare the points, rest cd. Imo.

The growth rates of the db chain is: 0.87 - 0.87 - 0.96
The growth rates of the hamstring chain is: 1.15 - 1.33 - 1.32 - 1.40

Taken from Wyrd's growth rate tables.

Edit: If you're not 100% sure what growth rates is check out http://www.classesofcamelot.com/other/styles/Styles.htm

 

[Neffneff]

the only advantage DB has over hammy is the stun componant..but then ofc you just do DB (stunned opponant) ----> hammy chain

EDIT: also unless im mistaken 21 CS for PA would 1. miss alot?, 2. reduce PA cap by something like 200-300 dmg as well as reducing it's dmg in general and 3. you would miss the follow ups to PA, Creepin death (which stuns, and makes warloc/any mage killing easy if you do it right), and stunnin stab, these also have very nice dmg.

 

[koun]

If auto-trained,
50 CS
35 Stealth
36 Pierce/Blades
32 Envenom
21 CD

else,
50 CS
35 Stealth
36 Pierce/Blades
30 Envenom
20 CD

+15 for all of the above ofc (CD as much as you can fit in template)
If you plan plan to spam pierce styles, forget all of the above

DB-Hamstring-Leaper-Rib Seperation-Ripper-RPs :worthy:
If you get to Ripper, but still....

If you want drop CS to 44 and raise CD-Envenom

imho always

 

[Nichii]

else,
50 CS
35 Stealth
36 Pierce/Blades
30 Envenom
20 CD

+15 for all of the above ofc (CD as much as you can fit in template)
If you plan plan to spam pierce styles, forget all of the above

give me ur template so i can cap those with +11?, mine only cap's +15 piercing and +15 stealth, fucking hard to cap skills, stats, resist's and toa bonuses lol =P....

or maybe im doing something wrong ;x

 

[Athalas]

give me ur template so i can cap those with +11?, mine only cap's +15 piercing and +15 stealth, fucking hard to cap skills, stats, resist's and toa bonuses lol =P....

or maybe im doing something wrong ;x

Aye post the template... pweeze ;p

 

[Vodkafairy]

33+17 stealth
30+17 env
50+17 cs
34+17 blade
26+17 cd

is my current spec. another one i always wanted to try (pre-wyrd) but didn't dare to because of low ws is: 50 cd, 34 cs, 34 blade, 33 stealth, 30 env. going high in weaponspec is very very useless tbh.. the styles aren't better than cs/cd and you get less out of speccing that than the advanced melee lines

heres template in case you want to see:

Statistics
STR:101/101 CON:85/80 DEX:75/80
QUI:37/75 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:357/360
Power:0/25
AF:40/50

Resistances
Body: 25
Cold: 15
Heat: 25
Energy: 10+5
Matter: 6
Spirit: 22
Crush: 27+5
Slash: 26
Thrust: 25

Skills
Mundane Poisons: 3
Stealth: 11
Critical Strike: 11
Blades: 11
Celtic Dual: 11

Bonuses
Style Damage: 9
Melee Damage: 8
Melee Combat Speed: 8
Fatigue: 5

Chest (Guard of Valor (ns)):
Imbue: 22.0
Gem 1: 18 Strength
Gem 2: 40 Hits
Gem 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Gem 4: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Gem 5: 4 Melee Damage
Gem 6: 4 Style Damage
Gem 7: 15 Dexterity
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 60.0

Arms (ns sleeves):
Imbue: 40.0
Gem 1: 7 Critical Strike
Gem 2: 2 Stealth
Gem 3: 5% Crush
Gem 4: 29 Hits
Gem 5: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Utility: 62.3
TOA Utility: 14.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 22 Quickness
Gem 2: 4 Blades
Gem 3: 19 Strength
Gem 4: 9% Slash
Utility: 65.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 19 Strength
Gem 2: 5 Celtic Dual
Gem 3: 11% Slash
Gem 4: 2% Energy
Utility: 63.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 9% Heat
Gem 2: 3 Mundane Poisons
Gem 3: 4 Critical Strike
Gem 4: 68 Hits
Utility: 70.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Feet:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 9% Thrust
Gem 2: 4 Blades
Gem 3: 7% Cold
Gem 4: 9% Body
Utility: 70.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (Malice's Axe):
Imbue: 20.0
Gem 1: 15 Strength
Gem 2: 15 Constitution
Gem 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Gem 4: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Gem 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Gem 6: 5 Style Damage
Gem 7: 5 Fatigue
Gem 8: 40 Hits
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 65.0

Left Hand (bane of batler):
Imbue: 30.0
Gem 1: 15 Strength
Gem 2: 15 Dexterity
Gem 3: 10 AF
Gem 4: 6% Crush
Gem 5: 6% Slash
Gem 6: 6% Thrust
Gem 7: 4 Melee Damage
Gem 8: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 56.0
TOA Utility: 45.0

Neck (paidreans necklace):
Imbue: 45.0
Gem 1: 10% Body
Gem 2: 10% Crush
Gem 3: 10% Spirit
Gem 4: 10% Thrust
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Shades of Mist):
Imbue: 20.0
Gem 1: 3 Stealth
Gem 2: 15 Strength
Gem 3: 15 Quickness
Gem 4: 10 AF
Gem 5: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 35.0

Jewel (preserved crocodile eye):
Imbue: 31.0
Gem 1: 21 Constitution
Gem 2: 21 Dexterity
Gem 3: 40 Hits
Gem 4: 6% Spirit
Gem 5: 10 AF
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 10.0

Belt (girdle of thunder):
Imbue: 26.0
Gem 1: 6% Body
Gem 2: 24 Dexterity
Gem 3: 40 Hits
Gem 4: 80 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 38.0
TOA Utility: 20.0

Left Ring (ring of heavens):
Imbue: 27.0
Gem 1: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Gem 2: 40 Hits
Gem 3: 25 Constitution
Gem 4: 6% Spirit
Utility: 38.7
TOA Utility: 20.0

Right Ring (whirling wrap - ml4):
Imbue: 43.5
Gem 1: 6 Celtic Dual
Gem 2: 6 Stealth
Gem 3: 3 Blades
Gem 4: 2% Heat
Utility: 79.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (bracer of zahur):
Imbue: 30.0
Gem 1: 60 Hits
Gem 2: 6% Crush
Gem 3: 6% Matter
Gem 4: 6% Heat
Gem 5: 10 AF
Gem 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 51.0
TOA Utility: 20.0

Right Wrist (Wormskin Wrap):
Imbue: 37.0
Gem 1: 24 Constitution
Gem 2: 8% Cold
Gem 3: 8% Heat
Gem 4: 8% Energy
Utility: 64.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

 

[Ziz]

you should not spec like that cause im telling you so
and there is no valid points for that spec at all nymore

wyrd ureself like it and /dance

 

[Adari]

what would be the effect of missing +11 CS?

 

[Adari]

also, what would 50 CD be like?

 

[Config]

Effect of not having +11 CS in template is that you will do less style dmg with CS style then with +11 in template. So if you mainly use CS styles, you will do less output dmg then with +11 in template.

Dont know how 50 CD is, never tried it.

There is a community just made for nightshades... sorry, made for infs and sbs nowdays aswell. Many of your questions can be answered there.

http://perforateartery.com/