Nightshade/Rangers/Scouts/Infs 2handed

[Silient]

gifv these classes the ability to use 2handed piercers/thrusters/slashers/blades pls


i realy think we should as SB/Hunter can...


disguss

 

[haarewin]

2h weapons were mids 'ability' as the melee realm. so no.

 

[DocWolfe]

2h weapons were mids 'ability' as the melee realm. so no.

well since 3 chambers is also an ability of the "melee realm" I think your comment above is invalid. But I dont think nightshades esp. would benefit from being able to wield 2h weapons, I dont think its in fitting with the char tbh.

 

[Cylian]

you get my 2h and I'll take your armor

 

[haarewin]

well since 3 chambers is also an ability of the "melee realm" I think your comment above is invalid. But I dont think nightshades esp. would benefit from being able to wield 2h weapons, I dont think its in fitting with the char tbh.

that's always been mythic's justification.

 

[Aiteal]

2 procs are better than 1 proc as the animal farm chars would say

I have a hard enough time SC'ing everything I need with the benefit of 2 equipable weapons, must be a nightmare trying to squeeze the same utilty into a suit with only 1 equipable weapon like hunters have to.

 

[Punishment]

If Hunters could duel weild i dont think u would see many 2h spear/sword hunter ... just my 2 cents

P.S. My pweety Elph wouldnt be able to harry a BIG 2-h anyway

 

[bigchief]

always wanted a 2h just for PA on my inf

and i mean always! Way before this patch was even dreamt up

I had to use a staff in thid back in the day, not really viable now

 

[DocWolfe]

staff is pointless with toa etc nowadays

 

[Xajorkith]

gifv these classes the ability to use 2handed piercers/thrusters/slashers/blades pls


i realy think we should as SB/Hunter can...


disguss

All Hunters would swap DW for 2H any day, and if that happened all the FoTM rangers would /delete and reroll mid.

2H = 50% Evade Penalty (I think it has a block penalty too)
2H = Loss of imbue points.
2H = Slow, prone to RNG failings
2H = Less effective use of Damage Add.
2H = 1 Proc
2H = less overall DPS than DW


You have to be a muppet to go for 2h.....

 

[censi]

"If Hunters could duel weild i dont think u would see many 2h spear/sword hunter ... just my 2 cents "

yer because like with norse blade DW hunter with blue con pet, there would be any point in rolling a ranger. Ranger would just be a weaker in melee but have pet to contend with as well etc...

It would be like the t3000 model versus the old T1 Arnie.

 

[haarewin]

aaw, i used to use staffs for pa-ing casters in thid. that was so much fun..

 

[Bahumat]

the reason they are different is because who wants to have 3 classes all with similar traits.

grass is always greener on the other side.

 

[Svartmetall]

the reason they are different is because who wants to have 3 classes all with similar traits.

Yes; the worst thing that could ever happen to DAOC would be the homogenisation of the realms into Green Team, Blue Team and Red Team.

 

[Ryuno]

And then they gave Paladins Celerity >.>

NS have magic
Infils have 2.5 spec points
SB have 2h

Thats how mythic have balanced it.

 

[Cylian]

And then they gave Paladins Celerity >.>

NS have magic
Infils have 2.5 spec points
SB have 5% more hits

Thats how mythic have balanced it.

Albs have plate
Hibs have baseline stun
Mids get free 2h

 

[Garok]

Albs get plate but they dont get evade on thier Heavy Tanks which balances that out.

 

[Ryuno]

Which just shows its all a balancing act, and how its never going to be the same.

 

[noblok]

Albs get plate but they dont get evade on thier Heavy Tanks which balances that out.

But evade I only works in the frontal arc and chain gets (slightly) less AF from a spec AF buff.

 

[Bahumat]

Just to inform anyone who dont know.

2hand weapon procs have a higher chance of proccing, this is because its a single weapon and its of a slower speed.

Having 2 weapons means they will proc less as they are single hand and faster.

What im unsure of is if 2 single weapons have a higher percentage than a slow 2hand or vice versa

 

[Culanan]

that's always been mythic's justification.

Think this has been said before but I'm pretty sure there is no evidence both historically or currently that any realm is divided into melee/magic/(where does that leave albs btw?), there are themes but afaik mythic never came out and said "Mid is the melee realm".

 

[Cylian]

Just to inform anyone who dont know.

2hand weapon procs have a higher chance of proccing, this is because its a single weapon and its of a slower speed.

Having 2 weapons means they will proc less as they are single hand and faster.

What im unsure of is if 2 single weapons have a higher percentage than a slow 2hand or vice versa

and over time the proc rate is just the same.

 

[Mavericky]

I was under the impression that a slow 2h had the same chance of procing as a fast 1h, but if you are duel wielding you double the chance to proc.

Anyway, back to the original poster, if you give infs 2h'ers then give hunters duel wield, it wouldnt be overpowering at all, honest !

 

[inqy]

giv infs 2hand, but only that, remove dual wield. that'd be ace

 

[Azathrim]

Just to inform anyone who dont know.

2hand weapon procs have a higher chance of proccing, this is because its a single weapon and its of a slower speed.

Having 2 weapons means they will proc less as they are single hand and faster.

What im unsure of is if 2 single weapons have a higher percentage than a slow 2hand or vice versa

You do however, have a greater chance of proccing reactive armour pieces with duel wield than with two-hander.

Same reason the hunters dog actually can be a negative factor to use. No fun in having it hit for 90 and starting a SOM 200pt ablative.

 

[Dorimor1]

No no no no no no and no. Why? Because all the realms are different and thats what makes this game so good and interesting in RvR, as Svart said, if the game became Blue Team Red Team and Green Team it will just become boring!

 

[Oldleaf]

And 2h is worthless for Shadowzerkers, so actualy i have nothing...

 

[Silient]

Casters


Hib = Caster realm

look at this


Mids get 2h users insta ae stun etc.grp haste bla bla

then they get the bd
insta spell life drain + heal pets

then they get warlock insta dmg with chambers, and unbreakable speed cast

albs get long range casters with powerful DMG


Hibs = Magic Realm. with short range, and not as much dmg as the other 2 realms


give us new spells or update the spells. and range, or give us a new tank class with Insta Spells / single mez / instant stun like minstral. a pet charmable. and Celtic Duel use with single small heal and level 10 rez. and

 

[E_E]

Casters


Hib = Caster realm

look at this


Mids get 2h users insta ae stun etc.grp haste bla bla

then they get the bd
insta spell life drain + heal pets

then they get warlock insta dmg with chambers, and unbreakable speed cast

albs get long range casters with powerful DMG


Hibs = Magic Realm. with short range, and not as much dmg as the other 2 realms


give us new spells or update the spells. and range, or give us a new tank class with Insta Spells / single mez / instant stun like minstral. a pet charmable. and Celtic Duel use with single small heal and level 10 rez. and

Are u drunk??

As we know it mids have the best casters (BD warlock SM RM) and they have better tanks aswell, their healers have more utility than druids/cleric...
Their assasin is now more powerfull than others with PA 1500 dmg..


About the loong range on alb casters.. iam pretty sure thats mids/hibs have the same range on their nukes 1500 units, yes albs have sorc mezz range BUT, hibs get UI taunt in far far longer range than sorc same goes with warlocks they have more range aswell....

 

[old.windforce]

i loved to use a legendary 2 hander in Leirvik and 1 shot (unbuffed) casters :>