Nightshade RA advice please :)

[old.Patrick-S]

hi just wandering which to get lol and have i made a mistake.. at the moment i have see hidden aug quickness 2 and dodger 1... is that a big mistake? cos theres RA respec soon isnt there? and what should i get next? thanks

 

[DocWolfe]

you can respec your realm abilities anytime by going to your trainer and typing /respec realm

 

[Danya]

things to get:
Lifter 5, Mastery of Water 5, Veil Recovery 5.

 

[old.Jadow]

Shame you can't respec your realm + race to make a real assassin class

Those "Wicked thorns" really sting 15 damage from a yellow con NS - nasty!

Jadow
Level 50 Infiltrator
Saracen Gryphon Knight
Servants of The Lake
"The People's Gimp"

 

[old.Mitsu]

He equipped his sewing kit or something?

 

[Trish]

Dannyn, I have those and must say I've never been happier. I can beat the local kids in Connla when we have swimming competitions. The veil recovery hasn't been so good yet because i hardly get killed when I'm swimming so fast but It's still usefull.

With lifter pumped up to 5 I can carry all the training dirks I have and some level 1 DoTs for all of them.

 

[old.Patrick-S]

lol cheers for the advice docwolfe and err i guess dannyn lol yea well not all of us just went for the all powerful zerging realm jadow lol j/k yea shades do have it unfair compared to infiltrators and shadowblades but wouldnt change if i had the choice (unless i could stay in hib ) now... to get to 50 so i can deal that whopping 15 damage to you jadow bwahahahaha... <chokes on poor attempt of evil laughter>

 

[old.Halfpint]

Hi Maedrohs

I'm couple of levels lower than you (41) and being that i still have a fair way to go in PvE I also chose Aug Quick 2 and have Dodger at 2.

For me this works realy well and I'm glad I chose it. I find that against yellow mobs when soloing I usually evade their attacks at least 50% of the time, which leaves the options open for using our combos that chain off evade. Although I usually play with a Warden and with the bubble as well as evade I hardly get hit at all.

I find that I evade a fair amount in RvR too, tho I think I need to use my saved RPs for trying to increase my damage output, as Jadow kindly mentioned I find that we are not always the hardest hitters ( I was fighting an orange con Mid the other night and at one point hit for a whopping 12 damage!! and crit on top of that for 2 lol - tho to be fair that was an unstyled attack as I was out of end).

Um, back to the point, I think you chose well with your RAs (er, I guess I would tho since it almost he same as me ) and I'll definatly be holding onto dodger at least till I get to 50.

 

[old.Iunliten]

Good stuff:
Dodger
See hidden
Ignore pain
Mastery of pain if you need more stuff to put RAP on after RR 5

Bad stuff:
Augmented aucity
Mastery of water
Tireless.

 

[Sarnat]

Don't NS' also have an ability that makes their DoT poisons hit harder? I mean a lot harder? That would probably be a good one. Depends on cost though, and timer.

(Too lazy to go and check)

As NS I'd probably get

Dodger
Mastery of Pain
Ignore pain
See Hidden.

Costs a lot of points though to get all those and their prequistes.

 

[old.Patrick-S]

hehe yea thats roughly what i was thinking in the long run.. yea theres wil arcana or something which gives u a 5% chance to critical each tick i think (per level) then theres viper or something which for 30 secs every 30 min makes your dots do dbl dmg thanks for advice all

 

[DocWolfe]

tbh I would go for

aug cons III
aug dex II
aug quick II
dodger III
duallist reflexes I
first aid II
ignore pain
mastery of pain I
regeneration II
tireless I
toughness I

-> nightshades typically have really shat hp, thats why I've devoted so many points into health based ras and generally things that will keep you alive ;p

 

[old.Jadow]

Don't bother with IP if you're a NS. Chances are you're like me and basically either live or die.

Go for maxing speed and damage output. I'd say the most you need for health based stuff is Aug Con 1 + Toughness.

Anything else is a total waste.

Throw as much as possible into Mastery of Pain and Dodger, and then start working on Mastery of Arms. NS's tend to be fast as hell anyways, and with MoA you can get those harder hitting weapon speeds down to 1.5.

Another possibility for something a bit different is Rain of Fire/Cold/whatever. This is an occasional use (Think it's on a 30 minute timer) hit, but it adds elemental damage to -every- melee attack. With NS's that's a lot of attacks, a bit like having a damage add - nice if there's no one around to buff you

Jadow
Level 50 Infiltrator
Saracen Gryphon Knight
Servants of The Lake
"The People's Gimp"

 

[erl]

See hidden is a vaste of points, I would recommend everybody to not get it.



Cough

 

[old.Iunliten]

Originally posted by old.Jadow
Don't bother with IP if you're a NS. Chances are you're like me and basically either live or die.

Go for maxing speed and damage output. I'd say the most you need for health based stuff is Aug Con 1 + Toughness.

Anything else is a total waste.

Throw as much as possible into Mastery of Pain and Dodger, and then start working on Mastery of Arms. NS's tend to be fast as hell anyways, and with MoA you can get those harder hitting weapon speeds down to 1.5.

Another possibility for something a bit different is Rain of Fire/Cold/whatever. This is an occasional use (Think it's on a 30 minute timer) hit, but it adds elemental damage to -every- melee attack. With NS's that's a lot of attacks, a bit like having a damage add - nice if there's no one around to buff you

Jadow
Level 50 Infiltrator
Saracen Gryphon Knight
Servants of The Lake
"The People's Gimp"

Actually I tried Rain of cold today
Totally useless...


See hidden
Dodger III or IIII

After that you should have a feel for what Realm Ability you want next mr shade.

 

[old.Kian]

See Hidden is a must, I think. Aug Quick 2 and Dodger, or Aug Dex 2 and Master of Pain are your next choice, dending on whether you want to go more offensive or defensive. Viper's nice for the doubled DOT damage, but it's on a long timer and one purge can mean it's all wasted. I'd think carefully about spending all those points on more mastery of pain instead (because a crit on your PA can be a lot more spectacular).

Wild Arcana sounds good - gives you a chance of a crit on your DoT ticks, as well as the pitiful DDs Nightshades get and (I'm told) weapon procs. Thing is, you have to dump 4 points into Augmented Acuity first, so all in all I'd rather invest in additional levels of Mastery of Pain.

Other choices - duellist's reflexes for extra double weapon swings (you'll have got the prerequisite for this already if you go for Master of Pain) Master of Stealth (faster move while stealthed COULD be useful, but not as much as some of these others), Purge (can be awfully useful making your getaway).

 

[svartalf]

Originally posted by old.Jadow
Shame you can't respec your realm + race to make a real assassin class

This is too true to be funny