NF will it ruin or bring life to the game?

Phoebee-v-

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Well topic says it most. Will everyone spend hours and hours to exp up thier casters, rangers and stealthers or just /quit?

I know that 99% of what you read on VN boards is pure BS but NF seems to be fubar.

Personally I will never go to WoW as I consider it to not be something I would like but allready I started looking around for options.

Flame away. :twak:
 

cougar

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It will probably kill rvr as we know it, emain opted fg vs fg. Maybe keepfights are fun, it better be :-P
 

Gethin

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I have played NF for a bit and from what i have seen RANGE will rule, atleast for the time being.

Other things to note:

The 'WarMap' rocks, easy to see what is going on and where.
Movement throughout your frontier is alot easier with teleporting.
No more "lets goto emain or odins", can only get there by boat or teleport (if your realm holds a keep and its associated guard towers). Hopefully albs will stay in Alb frontier.
Gank grps will still exist but they will need to evolve or die /loves mythic
No more choke point camping (AMG\MMG\HMG etc), will be replaced with bridge\dock\drop-off point camping but lots of options to move around zones so people who want to roam solo will have the ability too.
Full scale sieges will take ages so small scale sieges will rule (Guardtowers etc) and alot more farming rp.
/LAG - Lots of it from what i have seen.

I noted numerous other things but cant be arsed to spend ages writing them up.

To answer the original question, i honestly think the game is breath of fresh air and will offer something for everyone. All it will take is a bit of imagination.
 

Flimgoblin

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People will whine.

Other people will have fun.

Some people will do both.

Personally I can't wait.

Oh and:

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

Wonder if we should give out a prize for the first "Let's roll back to pre-NF" post...
 

Ilienwyn

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NF is hopefully my chance to actually get group invites!! ;)
 

vintervargen

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hmm im gonna have alot of NF fotms tbh..

druid - always needed
ranger - leech0r!
animist - bug abuse!!11
champ - hybrid4wynz?
 

crispy

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tbh.. tankgroups are still very uber.. seen what a banelord can do to a castergroup? :> spells take something like 4 sec to cast wich lowers dmg output from caster considerably.. also it seems like all the hybrid fighters like chimps and reavers (dunno about thanes tho :p) will be welcome. Cant imagine how i can take down a reaver with that 4sec aura and ml1 banelord ability.. Dont ask me why theese groups doesnt excist now.. maybe because no one rolls banelord? :>


Merc banelord
Merc banelord
Pala ml8 BM
Reaver banelord
Cleric
Cleric
Sorc
Mini

BM banelord
BM banelord
Chimp banelord
Hero ml8 BM
Warden ml8 BM
Druid
Druid
Bard

mid group is prolly uber :p

well my point is that in 8v8 fights tankgroups with a couple of banelords probably got a very good chance vs castergroups. Especially with alb reavers >_< But yes, NF will bring alot of keeptaking into the picture and in keeptakes its most fun to be caster.
 

Konah

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ruin it for some - bring new life for others


have to wait n see i spose but another i dont like is how much the ra's cost...
 

Clipse

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come and take a look at ATK, most of albion has already left because of "emain opted fg vs fg." If WOW is really good, I may leave aswell, the balancing in DAOC is well and truly fooked. No intrest in discussing or hoping for Albion improvements anymore. :D
 

Tiki

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is there safe areas when you enter the rvr world, like an tk.......

My buffbot would like to know ;)
 

yaruar

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Ilienwyn said:
NF is hopefully my chance to actually get group invites!! ;)

Same here, thanes will finally get to be (almost) fotm!!!!!!
 

Fana

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Tiki said:
is there safe areas when you enter the rvr world, like an tk.......

My buffbot would like to know ;)

Can just leave the bb at the realmgate afaik


As for NF itself, alot of people like it, alot dont. What one should remember when reading VN boards is that there are alot of poeple out rvr'ing atm that dont normaly rvr very actively. When the newness and "ohhh shiny" feeling is gone many of these will go back to semi-active rvr with alot of pve in between.
 

Archeon

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Sounds interesting, atleast from my point of view (not being a huge fan of 'wewannabeliketehrvrguildsohwaitwegotfarmedffs/release/disband/slfg' groups) i'm especially looking forward to Underwater RvR, that sounds like uber fun, better get and lvl my Alverus leggings now before everyone starts camping them :D
 

cougar

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Clipse said:
come and take a look at ATK, most of albion has already left because of "emain opted fg vs fg." If WOW is really good, I may leave aswell, the balancing in DAOC is well and truly fooked. No intrest in discussing or hoping for Albion improvements anymore. :D

i dont mind zergwars, i only want it to be fun, and they are not in emain.
 

Wyleia

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NF Looks like it will definitely change the game. I have been playing on it for about 2 weeks, and ALL they do is siege warfare. Seemed like the best rvr to get was hitting people from behind while they attacked towers/keeps. I couldnt find any groups that were just roaming around loking for fights, and even then, the area they could be in is so big.

I think fg vs fg will be dead. The only people who will go for fg vs fg will be the good guilds. So that means less fgs to fight and that makes them harder to find, if there are any online. The other fgs we find nowadays to fight aganist will most likely run with the zerg of keep taking, since they can gain rps that way, and dont have to go and be rp cows in emain anymore. I hung around one nite defending a keep and made 5k in about 2 hours on a SOLO BARD. All from rezzings and the rps you get just for being there defending the keep and a few leeching shouts. Imagine if i had a dmg dealer there.


NF will change the game, I guess its up to the player base to preserve our way of rvr if we want. The siege stuff is absolutely wonderfully deisnged imo, but the death of small battles, i donno if it was worth it...
 

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Keep fights where people actually turn up are fun so NF will rock :)
 

Tootz

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RvR's been fubar for some time now anyway so in my eyes NF is going to be a godsend. Keep taking has always given me the most fun in this game, and imo its what the game is all about - doesn't matter if you're a soloer, or a fg, if you're defending or attacking a keep, you have as much chance as anyone to score rps and thats a good thing in my book.
 

[NO]Subedai

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well the game will change, what we find fun atm may go, if fg v fg fights go but the stuff nf offers is fun then it will be ok.
 

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[NO]Subedai said:
well the game will change, what we find fun atm may go, if fg v fg fights go but the stuff nf offers is fun then it will be ok.

there will probably be room for fg vs fg fights - just not in the middle of the all you can eat McWarder's drivethrough near amg...

And probably not for a month or so after release till the zergs die down somewhat.
 

Flimgoblin

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Archeon said:
Sounds interesting, atleast from my point of view (not being a huge fan of 'wewannabeliketehrvrguildsohwaitwegotfarmedffs/release/disband/slfg' groups) i'm especially looking forward to Underwater RvR, that sounds like uber fun, better get and lvl my Alverus leggings now before everyone starts camping them :D

you were supposed to say DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! :(


Incidentally - levelling alvarus is so much fun! no really! killing lootless things that go "arrr! arr! arrr!" for a week or ten is just _too much_ fun!
 

[NO]Subedai

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Flimgoblin said:
there will probably be room for fg vs fg fights - just not in the middle of the all you can eat McWarder's drivethrough near amg...

And probably not for a month or so after release till the zergs die down somewhat.

lol made me laugh irl..Mcwarders :p
 

Ilienwyn

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crispy said:
tbh.. tankgroups are still very uber.. seen what a banelord can do to a castergroup? :> spells take something like 4 sec to cast wich lowers dmg output from caster considerably.. also it seems like all the hybrid fighters like chimps and reavers (dunno about thanes tho :p) will be welcome. Cant imagine how i can take down a reaver with that 4sec aura and ml1 banelord ability.. Dont ask me why theese groups doesnt excist now.. maybe because no one rolls banelord? :>


Merc banelord
Merc banelord
Pala ml8 BM
Reaver banelord
Cleric
Cleric
Sorc
Mini

BM banelord
BM banelord
Chimp banelord
Hero ml8 BM
Warden ml8 BM
Druid
Druid
Bard

mid group is prolly uber :p

well my point is that in 8v8 fights tankgroups with a couple of banelords probably got a very good chance vs castergroups. Especially with alb reavers >_< But yes, NF will bring alot of keeptaking into the picture and in keeptakes its most fun to be caster.


Tellthat to albs. I am Banelord and keep getting asked if I have BG. Banelord is soooo teh rock but if I get the money I might change hoping for more group invites...
 

Kagato

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I havent seen a single change in a patch note or expansion that I have liked for a long time now and NF is no different. This game will always be crap until they stop messing around with fluff and actually put some effort into actual balance.

I'll keep playing come what may until dragonempires comes out.
 

Archeon

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Flimgoblin said:
you were supposed to say DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! :(


Incidentally - levelling alvarus is so much fun! no really! killing lootless things that go "arrr! arr! arrr!" for a week or ten is just _too much_ fun!

Sorry, but i'm not feeling an overly huge sense of doom coming from this one. Tbh though I only plan to take them to lvl5... atleast for the moment, I can live without sharkform...

...

.... who the fuck am I kidding? I wanna be a shark so baaaaaaad!!!!!!! :(
 

Filip

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crispy said:
tbh.. tankgroups are still very uber.. seen what a banelord can do to a castergroup? :> spells take something like 4 sec to cast wich lowers dmg output from caster considerably.. also it seems like all the hybrid fighters like chimps and reavers (dunno about thanes tho :p) will be welcome. Cant imagine how i can take down a reaver with that 4sec aura and ml1 banelord ability.. Dont ask me why theese groups doesnt excist now.. maybe because no one rolls banelord? :>


Merc banelord
Merc banelord
Pala ml8 BM
Reaver banelord
Cleric
Cleric
Sorc
Mini

BM banelord
BM banelord
Chimp banelord
Hero ml8 BM
Warden ml8 BM
Druid
Druid
Bard

mid group is prolly uber :p

well my point is that in 8v8 fights tankgroups with a couple of banelords probably got a very good chance vs castergroups. Especially with alb reavers >_< But yes, NF will bring alot of keeptaking into the picture and in keeptakes its most fun to be caster.

i theory this seem ok .. but my experince is that when you face a good mixed group you're banelord tanks just get grappeled and they are out of the game way to long...

change your hib group to BM's + change the champ and a blademaster to casters and grabble the shit out of the alb group while your 1 or 2 casters kill....

and atm with so many RvR players leaving alb it is hard to make group of ml8+ players.... so most of the time it is not worth trying to make a group for fg vs fg as alb


so at least i hope NF will bring fun for albs.. but most of my guild will go beta test WoW .. if the pvp is worth anything i guess quite a few will go there

Filip
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how about stealthzergs?

sicne there will be no really central point... except for 50 boats raoming arround the central sea with all 1fg scouts/rangers/hutner on them ;)
 

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the CS kiddies wont like it and leave (hopefully) the rest of us will hopefully find it fun, although i have no idea where i am going to solo now
 

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