NF live on Excali - Hibernia Future

[Aldias]

Hello to evryone!

I usually dont post threads for such topics here but i think i read so much whining about and low confedence for our realm. I served this realm for the last 3years and still doing it, and i dont like the current situation atm, that Hibs are disapointed for NF.So mainly the purpose of this tread is to turn Hibs' morale up for the future

First of all i wona say NF is the best expansion patch that Mythic ever released in the last 3years. In the Excalibur situation, is not the NF who did the dmg but the population defference. Mythic has over 50 servers around the world and they are not unbalanced like Excalibur. So basicaly we cant say NF is shit coz is zerged. It is in a specific server where this happens.

The idea of NF is the <basic> idea for RvR. And i believe relics will change hands easier than old daoc.

About FG vs FG as already posted will be dead and i agree on this. Still we can have some 1 fg vs 1 fg fights but not many. And to be honest the NF brings more tactics and requires to use your mind to beat the enemy, rather running around mmg / amg / hmg and just kill people.

Now about our nice Realm

Excalibur Server : updated Sat, 20 / 11 /04 06:45:14 GMT

Albion : Active Characters : 42%
Lvl 50s : 39%
Hibernia :Active Characters : 24%
Lvl 50s : 27%
Midgard : Active Characters : 34%
Lvl 50s : 34%

Now.. i have a timeline how things happend in the last few days :

17 / 11 / 04 18:00 GMT -- Excalibur status : Open

17 / 11 / 04 00:00 GMT -- Mids captured Crim and Crauch
Albs captured Behn
nGed under siege from Albs

18 / 11 / 04 10:00 GMT -- Mids captured Bolg
Lamforta Mile Gate ( open )

18 / 11 / 04 11:00 GMT -- Mids attacked Lamforta Relic
Hibs defended successfully Relic

18 / 11 / 04 18:00 GMT -- Lamforta Mile Gate (open)
Albs attacked Scath
Hibs defended Scath successfully
Mids removed Spear Relic

18 / 11 / 04 18:30 GMT -- Mids have captured Spear Relic

19 / 11 / 04 Afternoon -- Hibs have captured Behn

20 / 11 / 04 Morning -- Hibs have captured Bolg and Crim
Albs have captured Nott

Now.. kk maybe the times wont all accurate... the idea of this timeline is to show to our realm how things happened in a historical progress.

My point here is when Excali was open at 17/11 afternoon all the keeps where low lvl and many towers and keeps unclaimed. Mainly most of the players on all 3 realms were like noobs coz many didnt know how keeps and miles gates works eachother and how towers works in releation with teleport etc.

So.... yes we are the underpopulated realm and mids/ albs came to us. Do you think if with this status of population, mids would attack albs and we would attack them the same time, they wont lose our relic? I believe they will. Simply coz it is the beggining of NF and all keeps were easy to take them and then deffend them.

In the last few days as a realm we have done some progress and at least we have all our towers and keeps claimed. Vodka's post about how to manage a siege weapon is quite helpfull to the realm and is better dont say anything rather flame a thread which tries to help the realm instead.

After all... we lost our str relic. and i am deffently sure we wont lose our power. Of course we have population defference but as we managed for 3 years to stand in the respective and power side of the Excalibur Server we will still stand there Besides i dont see why many people disapointed as far as for the last year at least, they played rvr with out str relic :touch:

The first Hib strike wave passed and from my point of view in a successefull defence. As for Mids.... i know they are great players and use very damn nice tactics. Besides i think they dont deserve great gratz for relic coz was damn easy to take it. (you all know why )

Our 1st aim was successfull. To Keep our Power Relic untouched. Now with our keeps back and in hihg lvl soon will be easier to defend them and same time attack mid/ alb.

As a realm we have the <mind> and the <skill> to take relics from our enemies.. only thing missing atm is <confendence>. So Hibernians Get Up!! Dont leave mids/albs to put you down.

For Hibernia!!!

Thank You

 

[Huntingtons]

so you're saying there's not tatic in running in fg? ;o its just mindless killing...

gee... i thought that was zerging 8(

 

[Aldias]

in 1fg vs 1fg 50% of the work is bard.... In 1fg vs 1fg most of the times ( not allways ) , the grp which mezz 1st the other is the winner. So the grp <basically> depends from the mezzer. Of course in high RRs fights there are some more tactics or in scout grps but cant compare with NF, where u have to find a way to take a keep like we did with Behn yesterday.

We chose to attack tower 1 rather T2 or T3 ... so we came very close to the keep. Albs were there and mids as well... So rather be a sandwitch from albs/mids when would attack gates @ behn we set up trebs from the T1 and shoot the wall.

Basicaly we avoided the zerg and we have captured Behn successefully.

Thats i call it proper Tactic

 

[aphios]

typin all that out was a waste of time ;D

 

[Spudgie]

First of all i wona say NF is the best expansion patch that Mythic ever released in the last 3years. In the Excalibur situation, is not the NF who did the dmg but the population defference. Mythic has over 50 servers around the world and they are not unbalanced like Excalibur. So basicaly we cant say NF is shit coz is zerged. It is in a specific server where this happens.

Aldias, We knew it was going to happen just roll with it. Hibernia is the only realm with Nightmare mode pre-selected.

For Hibernia, Thank You

Amen

 

[Clan Fist]

(mrmm msg i entered is to short)

 

[angrysquirrel]

Hello to evryone!
:

For Hibernia!!!

Thank You

i take back every bad word ive said about you

 

[ebenezer]

I agree with all u say Amon
And as usually people answer a thread with this by focusing on the wrong things in it. Like taking critisism that fg/fg was not as much tactics, some are so scared to loose what they had before NF cause they were so used to that sort of tactic and were prolly getting good at after bard mezz run forth and gank in ordinary fashion. Well thats changed now....and imo this leaves for so much more tactic and fantasy in battle then before. My main is bard and ofc i was a bit confused when i found my soul purpose as main runner in emain group mezzing etc suddenly was changed, what was i gonna do etc???. And tbh first day with Ebenezer i felt like he would have nothing to do in NF at all. But thats just up to me....i can stand mindlessly in a clump and mezz rez etc....or i can go with a smaller resistance pocket and go make myself usefull in same manner as before...taking them with speed and mezzing and outbreaker group that are trying to sneak up on us....and maybe turn the tide of battle a little atm. There is so much that can be done...they have just given us a huge battlefield with lots of toys. then its up to us to use that in our own way....
And the fact that we are less people then rest....heheh...well...that has always been the case. So we gotta get over that whiny attitude imo and just try and play the best game we can.
And i also agree with Amon(aldias) that everyone should stop flaming peeps that are just coming with a view or positive attitude in a thread. Whats up with that?....just say if u dont agree or not, u dont have to stand and pee the guy in the face too...thats overkill^^
Over and out.....

 

[Deadnala]

The first day's after NF release where hectic. We as undrpopulated realm where farmed etc, then we lost the str relic. many ppl started the whine and tbh i allmost lost faith myself, but i kept joining the action. Today we slowely took our keeps back. The testing NF crowd left rvr and only the people who like rvr remain, wich is a nice thing imo.

I like NF alot. Big batles over a keep ownz.
Btw i running a bard allso. I running around with 1 catapult and a bunch of ammo. big fun guarantee.

For new Frontiers

 

[tierk]

typin all that out was a waste of time ;D

FFS u still havent crawled under a rock somewhere and..... quietly?

 

[Culanan]

Have to wonder how hard Hib really is compared to other realms, ok albs/mids got very used to porting to Emain, Odins was pretty busy too in OF and alb was occasionally busy but mostly some scrappy fights and keep taking for DF.

I think although Hib is the most underpopulated realm it also has some very balanced and effective classes and has always had to fight superior numbers, ofc if Hib really was easy mode as some say then why is it so underpopulated?

I believe it's because it can and has been so hard to compete against numbers that Hibernia lacking numbers has driven people to play more populous realms, leaving behind some Hibernian diehards who will keep trying, judging by the movement of some players to certain guilds and those guilds swelling in numbers we may well see an improvement in organisation and effectiveness in the near future.

Excal Hibs aren't the sort to roll over and die!

Hib is a wasteland for new players, on alb/pryd I've never had much trouble finding some people to grp and lvl with for example, yet in Hib it's pretty rare to find many low lvl players in the old xp areas and only at the mid levels does this improve much, falling away at the higher levels to make getting to 50 without a fins/pl grp harder than it used to be.

Hib really does have some cacky dungeons, too few and too boring really.

Starting to ramble now (nerf a 5 year old running around me!) but basically I think Hib will survive the onslaught, our biggest problem though is going to be the lack of leaders, people don't listen and the leaders are some of the longest serving Hibernians, replacing them will be slow and hard

 

[Funkdocta]

best way for us to survive NF is to go on the offensive tbh. We need to be constantly harrasing the mids/albs for their relics. Attack is the best form of defence in this situation. Our population is too low to contend with the zergs.

 

[Aldias]

Another point that i would like to make here is the Keep/Tower Claiming System.

Keeps and Towers become stronger and stronger when they are claimed. I know that most of you, already know that, is just an info for those who dont

After the things chilled out in our lands i have noticed ( as many others i hope) that we still have unclaimed towers. This is basicaly again coz of the population or the active - inactive guilds if you want.

Excalibur Server updated :

Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:15:17 GMT

Guilds Top 50 for Hibernia on server Excalibur :

1 Vengeance 265,215,966//21,947//8
6 Dark Order 73,989,388//10,840//8
9 Dem Hibbies 49,573,148//177,559//12
14 Vigilance 32,552,425//0//3

I dont want to go further to over 50 guilds in our realm... i hope you get the picture.

Here we have some inactive guilds, which still have some mems on them. It is big shame not using these guilds' BPs for keeps / Towers. These guilds got a respective amount of BPs which can hold a keep or tower for a long time, enough to become strong and difficult to fall.

So we NEED to use them and i think they will make things much much easier for us

 

[Drummer]

Excalibur Server updated :

Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:15:17 GMT

Guilds Top 50 for Hibernia on server Excalibur :

1 Vengeance 265,215,966//21,947//8
6 Dark Order 73,989,388//10,840//8
9 Dem Hibbies 49,573,148//177,559//12
14 Vigilance 32,552,425//0//3

I dont want to go further to over 50 guilds in our realm... i hope you get the picture.

Here we have some inactive guilds, which still have some mems on them. It is big shame not using these guilds' BPs for keeps / Towers. These guilds got a respective amount of BPs which can hold a keep or tower for a long time, enough to become strong and difficult to fall.

So we NEED to use them and i think they will make things much much easier for us

I'm no longer active so I don't know how the guard/patrol system works in NF. But if it's thesame as in classic-daoc: say these guilds claim a keep and it gets attacked. Who will know? Perhaps theres noone online in those guilds to broadcast on /as: like 100enemies on bolg.

 

[Divinia]

in 1fg vs 1fg 50% of the work is bard.... In 1fg vs 1fg most of the times ( not allways ) , the grp which mezz 1st the other is the winner. So the grp <basically> depends from the mezzer. Of course in high RRs fights there are some more tactics or in scout grps but cant compare with NF, where u have to find a way to take a keep like we did with Behn yesterday.

one player doesent make a group win, a group make a group win.

 

[Culanan]

one player doesent make a group win, a group make a group win.

I think what he's saying, rather than: guns don't kill people, people kill people (we all know it's bullets!) is that first mezz is important, great bards make a big difference...ofc if the other 7 people are afk/clueless mezz means dick all

 

[Raven]

a good bard does more than just win the mez, besides if the group are awake on contact the 1st mez doesnt mean all that much as people break off (or should do)

 

[Jay]

Guilds Top 50 for Hibernia on server Excalibur :

1 Vengeance 265,215,966//21,947//8
6 Dark Order 73,989,388//10,840//8
9 Dem Hibbies 49,573,148//177,559//12
14 Vigilance 32,552,425//0//3

Veangeance, if they arent already dead, might as well be.
Dark Order are dead.
Dem Hibbies are mostly inactive.
Vigilance have been dead for ages.

The major issue is that even if these guilds claim a keep, they never have any members online so we wouldnt hear about attacks. I agree that guilds that are active and have a lot of bp's should claim keeps, but personally I'd far rather see smaller guilds claiming towers to help give everyone a bit of advanced notice. The wyrding Way are a great example. Small guild and only keep their towers at level 1 or so, but at least they give the rest of us warning. top work guys!