Newbie query: Dice rolls and weapons/armour - what it all mean?

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Mousey

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I am having probs with all these d20 17-18 x3 thingies when I try to evaluate my weapons and stuff. Is there a page I can visit to have these things explained, please? I get a choice of weapons/armour and am never quite sure which is the better/faster.

EDIT: OMG I am so thick... 'tis all there on the game help pages for players. /em smacks head
 
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Nightchill

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Hehe
When the evaluations were done (and in D&D the evaluators were pretty thorough/geeky) it turns out that two weapons with the same damage but different crits:
1 doing 19-20, x2
1 doing 20, x3
do exactly the same damage over time. It's just whether you want more but less powerful, or less crits but each being more powerful.

3rd Edition D&D is extremely balanced, no class is better than any other (in general party usefulness) and all the weapons (with a couple of exceptions that didnt make it into NWN) are balanced too :)
 
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Mousey

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Thanks Nightchill.... I reckon I am just gonna have to buy the D&D 3rd edition book as the Players Guide is somewhat generalised...
 
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Nightchill

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For the first 18 months after it came out it was only £10. Same for the DMG (dungeon masters guide) and MM (monstrous manual). Those were really the only 3 books you needed to play so they made them cheaply (apparently at a loss) to get people interested :)
Now they've put them up to around £20 although you can still catch some slow to update sites doing em for a tenner ;)
 
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- Pathfinder -

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3E might be balanced; NWN isn't :p (Rangers are horribly gimped compared to fighters, stick to them for RP value only ;))
 
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Nightchill

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Plenty of people say Rangers are gimped in 3e as well ;) The main criticism was always levelled at the "favourite enemy", you'd choose some low level species at first level (like orcs) then at level 20, do you really need that +5 to hit & damage against them? most likely not :\ poor rangers.
 
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- Pathfinder -

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While that is true, rangers in NWN are even more gimped :( chainshirts count as medium armour, thus making them useless for rangers; two weapon fighting is horribly bugged (offhand weapon receives no Focus/Specialization bonuses (You'd need a fighter lv for specialization, though)), the pet is virtually useless unless you wish to powerlv ;) and the spells are rather feeble. For pure effectiveness, a fighter is better, but I stick to my ranger as I like him :)
 
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Sar

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I play as a ranger as well, but I like rangers anyway :D
 
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- Pathfinder -

Guest
Ranger rocks ;) Dual katanas anyday; the increased damage output, coupled with a high str, makes up for the to hit penalty :)
 
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Nightchill

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If the only advantage you're giving the Ranger is Dual Wielding then I'll point out that a Fighter can do it just as well and with a higher damage output due to Weapon Spec and the feats to have Improved Crit on both.

You could say "well it costs the fighter 2 feats" but The fighter gets 11 feats on top of what a Ranger gets (by level 20). It does mean your Fighter should, in theory, need a 15 Dex (to get the Ambidex feat) but a small price to pay for 7 attacks a around hehe
 
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- Pathfinder -

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I'm well aware of this; hence my note on rangers being gimped :p Personally I'd say twohand weapons are better, damage wise, for fighters (only 5 attacks vs 7, but you won't have any To Hit penalties, and your opponent will FEEL it when you hit ;)), but as we all know, two weapon fighting has a certain coolness factor :cool:
 

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