New raid rules for any PvE raids lead by me

[old.Tzeentch]

ripped off straight from The Last Watch, an alb/pry guild (thanks, full credit to you guys ), and modified where needed

• You have to be level 50 in order to roll for 'level 51' loot, and 42+ for non-'level 51' loot
  
• In order to take part in the lotto, you have to remain for it - ie you can't log during the raid if you expect to take part of the lotto
  
• When lottoing, the raid leader (normally me, but might differ at times) will decide which classes are allowed to lotto for an item if it's not class specific; no amount of moaning will change this
  
• When lottoing, /random 100 will be used select the lucky winner
  
• If you participate on a raid up till the lotto and don't win anything, you will be allowed to add +10 to your roll on the next raid (and so on until you actually win something); the modifiers will be noted down in an Excel DB by the raid leaders
  
• If you have to log early, or go LD, the raid leader might add a +5 modifier for your rolls on the next raid; note that this is up to the discretion of the raid leader
  
• You may roll for alts, IF 1) your alt is also level 50 and 2) you notify the raid leader prior to entering the raid that you intend to roll for this character; note that you may not roll for drops for your present class if you elect to do this
  
• Follow the raid leader's directives at all times - if you can't abide by what he tells you, you shouldn't come
  
• You may not sell loot you win by lottoing - if you find that you don't actually need an item you've won, return it to the raid leader. If you opt to sell it you will be banned from future raids.
  
• You may only win one drop per raid session - think about what you want before lottoing
  
• You may only lotto for an item your character is specced for - in other words your S/S paladin may not lotto for a twohander "for the looks" or any other reason
  
• Make sure that you're registered with one of the raid leaders before it begins - attendance lists are made based on who's on it
  
• Do not use anon - if you're found to be on anon you won't be accredited a modifier for future raids
  
• Respec stones are to be counted as loot from now on, lotto-able by any level 43+ char, if you get a stone, you may not lotto for another piece of loot.
  
• Any violation of the above rules may result in your or even your groups disqualification from any lotto, or even a ban from future raids - this stands strongly in place with the dragon raids, where people not doing as they are told will only slow down the death of the dragon, and waste everyones time.

edit: one more thing, these rules are in place from the coming Sundays dragon raid onward.

25th of May that is.

 

[-Nuked-]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch


[*]You may not sell loot you win by lottoing - if you find that you don't actually need an item you've won, return it to the raid leader. If you opt to sell it you will be banned from future raids.


[*]You may only lotto for an item your character is specced for - in other words your S/S paladin may not lotto for a twohander "for the looks" or any other reason

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<whine>
welcome to the joys of being a light eld take alot of agro during the raid. have no nice light spec items drop on the raid, bid for something you dont need that badly coz there is nothing special that is better then what you have allready, and then you cant make a profit off it to say you got something useful from the raid! good rules, its just a shame casters have less to pick from. thx mythic </whine>

 

[old.LandShark]

That made no sense at all. Are you complaining casters are less able to bid for items they can't sell? What?

 

[-Dreama-]

If you participate on a raid up till the lotto and don't win anything, you will be allowed to add +10 to your roll on the next raid (and so on until you actually win something); the modifiers will be noted down in an Excel DB by the raid leaders

Saady lives up to his name and just BEGS for the pain! lol

 

[-Nuked-]

Originally posted by old.LandShark
That made no sense at all. Are you complaining casters are less able to bid for items they can't sell? What?

im not complaining about anything im just pointing out the fact sometimes we come on the raid for a certain item ... if that item doesnt drop we must settle for something else or walk away. if your a tank your ubber item may not drop but you can still go for 1 of the many other nice weapon drops (usually) what im saying is these rules benefit some classes more then others etc gg

edit: ok so the rules will allways benefit someone more then someone else but ... ok i lost what my point was now! ok lets just say i dont like the no selling rule means im gana have to farm gold again!

 

[Novamir]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
ripped off straight from The Last Watch, an alb/pry guild (thanks, full credit to you guys ), and modified where needed

• You may only lotto for an item your character is specced for - in other words your S/S paladin may not lotto for a twohander "for the looks" or any other reason

u proly should have read through these before tzee

 

[old.Tzeentch]

didnt want it too perfect did i !

 

[oblivion_6]

aye i dont think dragon drops much caster specific gear

but heay its still fun to go along or take an alt along to lvl on the xp

 

[old.Tzeentch]

yup, and there is absolutely _nothing_ in game dropwise that i want or need at all for my sc.

nothing.

can you believe a friend of mine has made me an sc setup which caps everything i need, including for the future dodger stuff, capping quickness as well? this is w/o any uber utility items.

mainly common drops or quest stuff.

like i said though:


You may roll for alts, IF 1) your alt is also level 50 and 2) you notify the raid leader prior to entering the raid that you intend to roll for this character; note that you may not roll for drops for your present class if you elect to do this

 

[oblivion_6]

one thing i would say saad is it possible to roll for alts items 45+ as long as they aint 50/51 items?

 

[old.Gillaien]

Dragon dropped a VERY nice cap this sunday... also a caster bracer (which was no uber-item tho) and a staff.

So it can't be that bad for casters, for only the staff was spec-specific.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Originally posted by oblivion_6
one thing i would say saad is it possible to roll for alts items 45+ as long as they aint 50/51 items?

yes, bear in mind this was written for Sidi/Galla type raids where everything is 100% qua lvl 51 equip - dragon drops 4 of these and the rest is level 50 items, but most people dont want it usually so i would say yes.

but again - inform me before the raid.

 

[Tyka]

Originally posted by old.Gillaien
and a staff.

stats, piccie.. etc..

 

[old.Tzeentch]

no uber staff this sunday dropped
2 piercers, lw and cloth cap was the dragon specific loot

 

[-Nuked-]

the staff was that quite rare void eld staff only void focus no use to many

 

[Kobold]

all loots was crap really

xept stones ofc

 

[oblivion_6]

i think that mythic took to long to fix the dragon and now the loot it drops looks shit compared to SI and SC stuff

 

[-Dreama-]

i think that mythic took to long to fix the dragon and now the loot it drops looks shit compared to SI and SC stuff

I gotta agree with that one really. I mean look at Galla, go in there and spend a few hours and you can easily come out with 15 MP drops with great stats. The dragon however, you go in there spend a few hours and come out with 4 uber items that really aren't all that uber anymore. If it weren't for the respec stones, the dragon wouldn't be worth the effort really...imo

 

[old.Niljindil]

Originally posted by -Dreama-
I gotta agree with that one really. I mean look at Galla, go in there and spend a few hours and you can easily come out with 15 MP drops with great stats. The dragon however, you go in there spend a few hours and come out with 4 uber items that really aren't all that uber anymore. If it weren't for the respec stones, the dragon wouldn't be worth the effort really...imo

Yeah, i think everyone agrees with that, but for people wanting to change specs the fact remains, those stones are *invaluable*

 

[Athralmall]

I just feel sorry for the people having to note down all these modifiers. Not a job I'd look forward to doing (although I think I'd be upto +30/40 on my next roll already by now if we'd started this before)

Although, given my last rolls (mid 20's) - I'd still lose for a few more weeks

 

[inuyasha]

I like the rules saady

But save yourself some trouble and dont accept that +10 on roll crap

Cept that.... respecs stones can hardly be counted as lotto items in your raids, since its a random holder in each gg that get the items, usually its divinded in guilds long after the raids, and thus make that hard. Just a 5 copper comment =)

Not sure what happened with the rp cow tzee, but i like it! Your doing great stuff for hib now, even summoner will fear ya! :great:

 

[Xray]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch

• You have to be level 50 in order to roll for 'level 51' loot
  

Unless you are lvl 49 and in the same Guild as Raid Leader?

Oh sry, these are the new rules, right? Or does the magic rule still apply?

 

[inuyasha]

Re: Re: New raid rules for any PvE raids lead by me

Originally posted by Xray
Unless you are lvl 49 and in the same Guild as Raid Leader?

Oh sry, these are the new rules, right? Or does the magic rule still apply?

are there any level 49s in saadyst's guilds anyways?

 

[Danya]

Nope. All 50 or lower level alts.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

X-ray - make your own thread ok? thanks.

 

[old.Laryssa]

i wanna see how u wanna keep track of the +modifier rule

 

[<Harle>]

bleh, no more leaving early because nothing interesting dropped - now you got to stay for the lotto and join a random one to get your +10 for the next raid

 

[-Dreama-]

what if nothing you can lotto for drops? I mean what if nothing a bard uses drops, do I still get to add +10 to my next lotto?

Just wondering, cuz I kow sometimes one class can get left out of drops every once in a while.

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by <Harle>
bleh, no more leaving early because nothing interesting dropped - now you got to stay for the lotto and join a random one to get your +10 for the next raid

You get +10 even if you don't lotto for anything as long as you stay until the start of the lotto.

 

[Xray]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
X-ray - make your own thread ok? thanks.

Errr, why......

I thought this thread was about your rules.

All i want to know is does the Magic 49 Rule still apply.
Or do the new rules mean that:

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
[*]You have to be level 50 in order to roll for 'level 51' loot

I really dont want to start a Flame Thread (honest). :uhoh:

I discussed the Magic 49 Rule with u in game. And although i still don't completely understand how it works, I do accept that you aren't gonna do anything about the first time that i encountered it. So starting a new thread about it would be pointless.

I just think it's important that everyone knows all the rules B4 the raid starts. I'm sure someone else made this point once.

So... is the Magic 49 Rule still in effect?