New PC

[Shadster]

Lo ppl

all i have dun is play with ur standard pc world computer and now i want to upgrade to a more gaming pc thats is pretty good and not 2 standard don't want to break the bank so wondering if any 1 has a good comp spec / price that could give me a head start in what im looking for.


thanks

 

[Dreamor]

depends, you likely to build it yourself or want to continue with a bundle.

Novatech have some nice comp's, depends what your after!

givf more info!

 

[Shadster]

depends, you likely to build it yourself or want to continue with a bundle.

Novatech have some nice comp's, depends what your after!

givf more info!

would not no what to do if i built it my self and want to keep away from the pcworlds sort of companys as there very poor.

 

[Gamah]

i'll build you one if you send me the price range i could come up with some quotes..if you could collect from newbury that would save you shipping too!

 

[Shadster]

i'll build you one if you send me the price range i could come up with some quotes..if you could collect from newbury that would save you shipping too!

well £700 quid around i would think is what im looking at but don't want to commit to anything till im 100% sure.

but if u got spare time to come up with a decent spec for it and pm me it or what ever i would be gratefull then if im interested ill let u no :-0

 

[Howley]

Antec TruePower Trio 550W PSU  	 	£54.99
(£64.61) 	£54.99
(£64.61)

Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case 	Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case 		£54.99
(£64.61) 	£54.99
(£64.61)

Pioneer DVR-112DBK 18x18 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter - (Black) OEM 	Pioneer DVR-112DBK 18x18 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter - (Black) OEM 		£16.99
(£19.96) 	£16.99
(£19.96)

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB ST3320620AS SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM 	Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB ST3320620AS SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM 		£44.99
(£52.86) 	£89.98
(£105.72)

HIS ATI Radeon X1950 Pro ICEQ 3 V2 TURBO SILENT Heatpipe 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (H195PRQT256DD-R) 	HIS ATI Radeon X1950 Pro ICEQ 3 V2 TURBO SILENT Heatpipe 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (H195PRQT256DD-R) 		£89.99
(£105.74) 	£89.99
(£105.74)

Arctic Cooling Alpine 64 CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) 	Arctic Cooling Alpine 64 CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) 		£4.99
(£5.86) 	£4.99
(£5.86)

Intel Core 2 DUO LGA775 E6600 2.40GHz Retail / Intel 965P LT Motherboard / 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C5 DDR2 Dual Channel Kit - Bundle 	Intel Core 2 DUO LGA775 E6600 2.40GHz Retail / Intel 965P LT Motherboard / 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C5 DDR2 Dual Channel Kit - Bundle 		£260.97
(£306.64) 	£260.97
(£306.64)

  		Sub Total : 	£572.90

Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)
(This can be changed during checkout) 	Shipping : 	£14.95

VAT is being charged at 17.5% 	VAT : 	£102.87
  	Total : 	£690.72

tbh thats a good spec... all parts can be ordered HERE![/u}
the harddrives imo should be striped (raid 0) for performance but if ur worried about losing all ur stuff coz 1 of the drives crash or fries u might aswell just mirror'em.
no monitor in it.. but can grab this if u want 1.. keyboard / mouse assume u have'em already

ps. know u said u cant build it urself but think gamah mentioned he could build it ? or am i missin something

 

[Overdriven]

PC world isn't that bad... Just some of the staff are twats. If you know what you're looking for it'll work.

Get Gamah to write you a spec (as he offered) then go to PC World and look for something close. Or get a friend to build, as you'll have the spec-sheet.

 

[Shadster]

PC world isn't that bad... Just some of the staff are twats. If you know what you're looking for it'll work.

Get Gamah to write you a spec (as he offered) then go to PC World and look for something close. Or get a friend to build, as you'll have the spec-sheet.

Do u work at pc world

cause ur the first person ive heard say that

 

[Shadster]

Antec TruePower Trio 550W PSU  	 	£54.99
(£64.61) 	£54.99
(£64.61)

Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case 	Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case 		£54.99
(£64.61) 	£54.99
(£64.61)

Pioneer DVR-112DBK 18x18 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter - (Black) OEM 	Pioneer DVR-112DBK 18x18 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter - (Black) OEM 		£16.99
(£19.96) 	£16.99
(£19.96)

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB ST3320620AS SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM 	Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB ST3320620AS SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM 		£44.99
(£52.86) 	£89.98
(£105.72)

HIS ATI Radeon X1950 Pro ICEQ 3 V2 TURBO SILENT Heatpipe 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (H195PRQT256DD-R) 	HIS ATI Radeon X1950 Pro ICEQ 3 V2 TURBO SILENT Heatpipe 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (H195PRQT256DD-R) 		£89.99
(£105.74) 	£89.99
(£105.74)

Arctic Cooling Alpine 64 CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) 	Arctic Cooling Alpine 64 CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) 		£4.99
(£5.86) 	£4.99
(£5.86)

Intel Core 2 DUO LGA775 E6600 2.40GHz Retail / Intel 965P LT Motherboard / 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C5 DDR2 Dual Channel Kit - Bundle 	Intel Core 2 DUO LGA775 E6600 2.40GHz Retail / Intel 965P LT Motherboard / 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C5 DDR2 Dual Channel Kit - Bundle 		£260.97
(£306.64) 	£260.97
(£306.64)

  		Sub Total : 	£572.90

Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)
(This can be changed during checkout) 	Shipping : 	£14.95

VAT is being charged at 17.5% 	VAT : 	£102.87
  	Total : 	£690.72

tbh thats a good spec... all parts can be ordered HERE![/u}
the harddrives imo should be striped (raid 0) for performance but if ur worried about losing all ur stuff coz 1 of the drives crash or fries u might aswell just mirror'em.
no monitor in it.. but can grab this if u want 1.. keyboard / mouse assume u have'em already

ps. know u said u cant build it urself but think gamah mentioned he could build it ? or am i missin something

aye i can not build it


and thz for the info

 

[Overdriven]

Do u work at pc world

cause ur the first person ive heard say that

Nope. I'm a techie who knows what he's doing 95% of the time. I've delt with PC world. It's cheaper than most places, and it's pretty good value for money. Sure, the staff are twats. But it's not the worst place in the world. (Rather order from there than Dell..)

 

[Raven]

Foxconn 975X7AB-8EKRS2H Socket 775 I975X DDR2 PCI-E ATX £90.56

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 (2.4ghz) Socket 775 FSB1066 4MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor £112.47

Saitek Entry Level Gaming Keyboard PK08A £8.49

OCZ 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 667MHz/PC2-5400 (OCZ2SOE6672GK) CL 4-4-4-12
Gold XTC *SPECIAL OPS* Edition £85.09

Zalman CNPS7700-ALCU Super Flower Socket 478, 754, 940, 775 & 939 CPU Cooler £14.19

Aspire X-Infinity Black Midi Tower Gaming Case - with 420W PSU £42.54

Western Digital WD2500KS 250GB 7200RPM SATAII/300 16MB Cache Hard Drive - OEM £35.99

BFG 8800 GTS OC 320MB DDR3 DVI PCI-E Graphics Card £158.01

Total £657.85 Inc VAT/delivery from Ebuyer

Not the best in the world but it was within my budget

Oh and the PSU comes with the case, though i will be using my existing 500W PSU

 

[Shadster]

this is a sprec i have come up with cos me just over £700 delivery inc can u have a look and tell me what ppl think / can any 1 make better for similar price thz.

Processor (CPU)
INTEL® Core 2 Duo E6600 (2 X 2.40GHz) 1066MHz FSB/4MB L2 Cache

Memory (RAM)
2048 MB CORSAIR DDR2 667MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY! (2x1GB)

Motherboard
ASUS® P5ND2 SE: DUAL DDR2, S-ATA, x16 VGA, 2 PCI/3 PCI-E

Operating System
WINDOWS® VISTA Home Premium (inc Genuine CD & License) (£70)

USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS (4 REAR + 2 FRONT) AS STANDARD

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
250GB SERIAL ATA II HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (7200rpm)

2nd Hard Disk
NONE

1st CD/DVD Drive
20x DVD±RW/RAM/Dual Layer + Lightscribe (48 x CD-RW) (£16)

2nd CD/DVD Drive
NONE

Graphics Card
512MB GEFORCE 8600GTS PCI Express + DVI + TV-OUT

2nd Graphics Card
NONE

Sound Card
Sound Blaster® Audigy® SE with 7.1 Surround Sound: £15

Modem
NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND

Network Facilities
ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (ETHERNET)

Floppy Disk Drive
NONE

Memory Card Reader
NONE

Case
Silver Neon Bubble case + Neon Extreme Kit!

Power Supply & Case Cooling
600W Quiet Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£61)

Processor Cooling
ZALMAN CNPS9700 NT TRITIUM SUPER AERO COOLER (£44)

 

[Raven]

i would advise getting an 8800 graphics card, they aren't really that much more expensive than the 8600 and are Direct X 10 compatible.

 

[Ballard]

Arctic Cooling Alpine 64 CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) Arctic Cooling Alpine 64 CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) £4.99
(£5.86) £4.99
(£5.86)

1 - That is not LGA775 compatiable so wont fit to a core duo.
2- There is absolutely no point in buying an aftermarket cooler for a core duo unless you want large Oc's. As the supplied intel cooler is FAR better than any other stock fan and significantly better than many cheap aftermarket fans. The stock fan is more than adequate for a 600mhz OC on a E6600

Other wise a good spec

Sound Card
Sound Blaster® Audigy® SE with 7.1 Surround Sound: £15

The audigy SE is the same as the somewhat controversial audigy 2 'value edition' in that does not have a proper hardware DSP chip on board. This means all the sound processing is done by the CPU. These are in my opinion absolutely the worst pieces of shite on the market. You are better off in most cases to just rely on the onboard sound from your MOBO. If you want to save some CPU cycles however then go for a cheap proper soundcard like the audigy (non 'special edition' edition! ) or Audigy 2 (standard or zs). They shouldnt cost much more than an audigy SE.

ZALMAN CNPS9700 NT TRITIUM SUPER AERO COOLER (£44)

Thats a very nice cooler, one thing to consider with it however is the aerodynamics of the case. The 9700 blows the air across the MB rather than away. As such, the case should be tailored for air intake at the front of the case and air exhaust at the back with the 9700 posistioned to match that air movement pattern. If your case is designed with the standard side vent with built in case fan and little in the way of front and back then a cooler like the one mentioned by Raven , i.e.

Zalman CNPS7700-ALCU Super Flower Socket 478, 754, 940, 775 & 939 CPU Cooler £14.19

is better in some cases (and much cheaper!)

That said my point above still stands, it is only worth buying an aftermarket cooler if you plan on 600+ mhz oc's on a E6600. Otherwise the stock supplied fan is more than good enough, and guessing from your comments about PC building Im thinking it safe to assume you arent.

 

[Ballard]

Nope. I'm a techie who knows what he's doing 95% of the time. I've delt with PC world. It's cheaper than most places, and it's pretty good value for money. Sure, the staff are twats. But it's not the worst place in the world. (Rather order from there than Dell..)

I have to agree with the other posters. My GF's parents bought one, and never have I seen such a poorly constructed PC.
- There was no thermal paste used whatsoever..
- The ram was not placed in the correct slots.
- There were cables all over the place.. they couldnt even be arsed to use a few 5p plastic cable tie downs. On top of that they may aswell have welded razorblades throughout the inside there was so many sharp edges!

I appreciate they are primarily a reseller not a system builder but that doesnt mean you have to sell crap..

 

[kiliarien]

tbh thats a good spec... all parts can be ordered HERE![/u}

I have only ever ordered from Overclockers once, 2 out of the 6 parts I bought were faulty (mobo and graphics card) - bad luck I guess. Graphics card was replaced quickly but I had to wait a month for the mobo. I was not amused.

They were out of stock on the mobo, if they wanted to guarantee customer satisfaction they should have upgraded me to the next mobo (which was about £5 more expensive) and shipped it rather than me having to wait all that time.

They've saved £5 but lost a lot more in my business, I won't buy from them again.

 

[Howley]

1 - That is not LGA775 compatiable so wont fit to a core duo.
2- There is absolutely no point in buying an aftermarket cooler for a core duo unless you want large Oc's. As the supplied intel cooler is FAR better than any other stock fan and significantly better than many cheap aftermarket fans. The stock fan is more than adequate for a 600mhz OC on a E6600

Other wise a good spec

well tbh i wasnt sure if it was gonna fit with the motherboard but ive heard good things bout that cooler so said why not

the pc i ended up getting (unless i 4got to type in something) =>

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40GHz LGA775 FSB1066 4Mb

Asus P5W DH Dexluxe ATX LGA775 Core 2 Duo 975X ICH7R FSB1066, Elixir 4GB PC2-6400C4 DDR II RAM,

ATI Radeon X1950 XTX - 512 MB - Graphics adapter - PCI Express x16 - Plug-in card - HDTV out / video in, (can add a master card later on if i feel like it)

2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 Hard Disk Drive 320GB SATA,

Viewsonic VX922 19"TFT Monitor 1280x1024@60Hz, 650:1, 270cd/m2, Anti-Glare, DVI, Black,

Antec Solo Quiet Chassis + Neo HE430 Quiet PSU and EPS 12V compliant 500W PSU with 80mm low speed/noise fan, 18 x DVD-RW Internal Drive, 3.5” Floppy Disk, Integrated Sound & Ethernet Connection

Windows XP Home (hate vista atm tbh!)

 

[Coolan]

I have to agree with the other posters. My GF's parents bought one, and never have I seen such a poorly constructed PC.
- There was no thermal paste used whatsoever..
- The ram was not placed in the correct slots.
- There were cables all over the place.. they couldnt even be arsed to use a few 5p plastic cable tie downs. On top of that they may aswell have welded razorblades throughout the inside there was so many sharp edges!

I appreciate they are primarily a reseller not a system builder but that doesnt mean you have to sell crap..

Ok so youve had a bad experience you cant blame the staff at pcworld as they just sell it, blame the ppl who choose what to order at pcworld, or do you expect then to check every pc before its sold.

 

[Ballard]

Ok so youve had a bad experience you cant blame the staff at pcworld as they just sell it, blame the ppl who choose what to order at pcworld, or do you expect then to check every pc before its sold.

I dont blame the customer service staff and didnt say I did. They are just like the rest of us working stiffs trying to make two ends meet. The fact is the PCs they sell are in most cases rubbish because they are made to be cheap not good. PCWorld is a bulk retailler and that is their chosen demographic. High specs but bad build quality PCs are piss easy to sell. High quality PCs with high price tags are very hard to sell to anyone who doesnt know alot about PC hardware. Walk around any PCworld store and 99% of the PC's are loaded with generic components hastily constructed on production lines. unless someone wants to spend the minimum they can on a PC I would never recommend shopping there.

 

[Coolan]

ah kk, misinterperted(if thats how you spell it) what u ment.

 

[fenrisan]

or do you expect then to check every pc before its sold.

Ahahaha - yes I expect them to check every PC before it's sold, that or employ some no-good monkey to do all the checking in his sparetime

 

[Blizard]

Processer

AMD64 Athlon X2 6000+ AM2

CPU Cooler

Thermaltake Sonic Tower R2

Motherboard

Asrock AM2NF6G-VSTA

Memory


Kingston DDR2 667mhz (4x 1GB)

Hard Drive


250GB S-ATA2 3.0Gb/s


Optical Drive


18x Double-Layer DVD+/-RW


Graphics card


NVidia GeForce 8800GTX PCI-E 768MB

Sound card

Creative X-FI Xtreme 7.1 None -

Operating System


Vista Home Premium 32-bit Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium



600W PSU

Case


Colors-IT 8050 Thermaltake Soprano VB1000BNS



Price £909.04 ----- Pretty good to me i reckon! This is what im gona get i think!!

 

[Coolan]

Ahahaha - yes I expect them to check every PC before it's sold, that or employ some no-good monkey to do all the checking in his sparetime

oioi fen get back in ur corner

 

[Ballard]

Price £909.04 ----- Pretty good to me i reckon! This is what im gona get i think!!

If you want a CPU that is extremely hot with about 25% of the OC potential of a core duo then yeah the 6000-AM2 is a good choice



p.s. on a more serious note if you want a decent case (which you should be looking at if you are spending 900+ then go for a 'lian li' or 'silverstone', both are far superior to thermaltake.

 

[Raven]

i wouldn't touch an AMD with Gamah's atm. Hopefully they will get their act sorted out, have always used AMDs and Radeons in my computers, the PC that i have ordered (comes tomorrow!!!) is the first one i have built with an intel cpu and an Nvidia gfx card.

 

[Alan]

always had AMD processors... but if I was buying one today, would be a 6600 dual core intel, sorry but even being an AMD fan, intel are pissing on them at the mo.

 

[Gamah]

Same I was part of the old brigade AMD/Radeon fanbois...

My Latest rig?

Core 2 E6600 w/ Geforce 7950 ...

Intel are killing AMD at the moment.

 

[Blizard]

Hmmm talk about luck... A mate of mine has offered me his PC for 500 notes as hes now getting the new Dell XPS.
He builds his own PCs and he built the one hes offered me about 6 months ago.
Spec:
AMD 4400 x2 duel core
NVidia 'BFG' 7900 GTX 'OC'
2Gig of Memory
Creative Fatality Sound card

Hes a good friend and i know he hasnt really used it alot either since hes got his Xbox.

Will this be good enough to play all the latest games on full settings etc? Hopefully this PC should do me for a couple of years anyway but i just want to make sure im ready for Warhammer when it arrives next year
I can always upgrade the core components later anyway as my mate has made everything really upgradeble.

Sound a good deal?

Im gona buy this to go with it too ready for Warhammer : http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/3326668/Asus-MW221U-22-Widescreen-LCD-Monitor/Product.html

 

[Raven]

No it doesn't sound like a good deal because it isn't You could build it new for less than that.

Spend £150 odd more and get a top notch PC

and drop AMD in the vat of puss they deserve!

 

[Blizard]

Ok i am about to order a new PC, but im not to sure whats better here?

4GB Kingston DDR2 667mhz (4x1GB)

or

2GB Corsair Twin2X 800mhz XMS2 (2X1GB)

Can someone enlighted me into which i should order plz?