Svartmetall
Great Unclean One
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GS: What do you think about the free to pay, pay for items model?
MJ: ......But what I have a problem with is like if you know that you spend five dollars more than somebody else, you can kick their ass, that’s not good. That’s bad. That’s a message to the player that it’s not skill anymore, it’s not a willingness to play the game, it’s just a willingness to spend more money....
He's so cute...though I suspect it's a case of 'cuddle that and you pull back a stump', sort of thing.Dukat said:That is one sweet bobcat kitten!
Aiteal said:haha
What a fucking hypocrite
Ctuchik said:so u think that what EQ2 is doing is a good idea?
Word. It's an MMOG not an auction house; you get what you earn by doing stuff in-game and that's the only way you get stuff. Can't be bothered to put in the time? Then you don't get it.Wazkyr said:paying lets say 10 € and then getting an artifact at level 10, or 50k rps would be totaly retarded imo, hope they stay as far away from such things as posible
Ctuchik said:so u think that what EQ2 is doing is a good idea?
Aiteal said:Not at all
But to publicly slate another company for that whilst getting 40% of your revenue from buffbots is hypocritical
Sadly, every time MJ brings this up at an interview, not one interviewer says
"whoooahhh there Mark, what about buffbots?"
and dont give me the "classic" arguement
I'm not gonna leave behind a character that I spent 2 years playing and
equiping to reroll on another server.
Therefore, Im stuck paying double the cost just to "compete" as MJ puts it, as well as continue to play a char I love on a server where my friends are.
Mythic could add buff NPCs tommorow like the str for crafters and speed for all people to the frontiers
But they dont
They like the money that comes from a player having to pay double to them to compete
Thats sheer hypocrisy
OohhoO said:Up to now success in MMORPGs has always been about having enough time (& enough friends who also have enough time). I don't know exactly what EQ2 is doing, but allowing players to invest money as an alternative to investing time would seem like a smart business move to me, and an incentive to those people who have jobs & families etc & therefore little free-time.
"That’s a message to the player that it’s not skill anymore, it’s not a willingness to play the game" ... This is just BS. It has never been about skill or willingness to play the game.
Ctuchik said:well, SOE (that owns EQ2) is having their own online shop where they sell accounts, characters, items, plat etc etc etc....
u can buy a fully twinked out toon legally in their game without acually doing anything for it. on special servers tho.. but still.....
and imo thats just fishing as much cash as they possibly can from a game thats going really really bad ...
OohhoO said:ahh IC
You mean like on the normal DAoC servers but cutting out the Plat-Sellers & E-Bay.
Sounds like a good idea TBH.
I never bought items or toons for cash myself because ... well ... it wouldn't feel like it was my toon or any kind of accomplishment, but I think offering that service in a reliable & safe way i/o letting the same thing happen over E-Bay is a big improvement.
And it makes me worried, are they planning on making DAOC ugly and cartoonish like wow? It's like comparing a movie like Troj or Braveheart to Ice Age by Disney.Wazkyr said:makes me sad when he says wow gfx is nicer than daoc
Dr_Evil said:And it makes me worried, are they planning on making DAOC ugly and cartoonish like wow? It's like comparing a movie like Troj or Braveheart to Ice Age by Disney.
old.Whoodoo said:WOW is cartoon bling, DAoC has a lot more "realism" IMO.
Its like comparing Picasso and Andy Warhole, art is in the eye of the beholder, and obviously MJ is getting a major backhander from Blizzard atm.
It's the 'realism' graphics in DAOC that appeal to me, I refuse to play a game that looks like a cartoon. It's the same with movies, 'real' movies appeal to me and cartoons don't. There can be firebolts in 'real' movies, it doesn't have to be a cartoon.Shike said:that cartoon bling is what introduced millions of people to the world of MMO's though, which they deserve creds for. Some of those people will be open for other games when a good one comes out and overall Blizzard have helped in creating a huge playerbase for MMO's as a whole with quite a shitload actually.
That said, I think WoW sucks but thats another thing
(realism in same sentence as a game with firebolts is a tad hmm dont you think btw?^^)
oh and the hypocracy when Mythic loves and actually even condone the usage of buffbots is just too funny heh, talk about putting the foot in the mouth
Dr_Evil said:It's the 'realism' graphics in DAOC that appeal to me, I refuse to play a game that looks like a cartoon. It's the same with movies, 'real' movies appeal to me and cartoons don't. There can be firebolts in 'real' movies, it doesn't have to be a cartoon.
old.Whoodoo said:WOW is cartoon bling, DAoC has a lot more "realism" IMO.
Aiteal said:I love on a server where my friends are.