new expasion

[warriorx]

a nexp to far i read aobut it and didnt like what i read about sub specking in other ablitys i just think mythic would learn the lesson of other mmpolg you can take it a expansion to far any one got a veiw on this ? :touch:

 

[statued]

spell check aint your friend hmmm?

can u show us link to what you read plz!

 

[warriorx]

http://gameinfowire.com/news.asp?nid=6846 link mate

 

[Omnium]

It isn't hard to read yer post to check for mistakes before pressing the post button...

 

[warriorx]

so sorry i have offended you with my typos i will try harder next time





ps such lame comments will result in me wanting to ram a spell checker where the sun dont shine

 

[Raven]

i think it could be good, but the past experiance of mythic part of me says it will be fucked for a good few patches after. And it really would surprise me if mids get the best mixes.

 

[Coldbeard]

i think it could be good, but the past experiance of mythic part of me says it will be fucked for a good few patches after. And it really would surprise me if mids get the best mixes.

I heard something about a mixed class with insta lifetap, body debuff, healing pets, twf and banelord, physical defence and more..

oh wait, thats bd :<

 

[Myrthe]

trolling aside,my general feeling is that each expansion makes it harder to have mutiple characters rvr worthy.

that is,if you have a life outside of daoc too

 

[Umgrud]

Life tap Zerker with Runebolts

 

[Mundokar]

Notice you need daoc+catacombs to be able to use DR.

 

[Chilly]

just when i thought i might have enough free time to renew my account, mythic releases a new 500hour per char upgrade. yay. anyone want to buy a useless account?

 

[Qordis]

I've red somewhere that you will be able to buy your own horse... Would be nice though.

 

[Ixu]

just wondering... wasn't there always a free expansion then expansion that costs... Dunno if it's their point really add free expansions between but it works
it's been like DF -> SI -> Housing -> ToA -> NF -> cata -> DR?
not a big deal but bying expansion that I will get faster horse and name it MyPimpVagon isn't really I expect from expansion or my Animist gets a diamondback but no evade but still... if you want to keep upgrading the game you need the previous expansion. K lost wandering from the point somewhere........
Imo gettin champ lvl's and mounts would be the free expansion .. just imo


oh forgot SI+ land but can't remember when it was :x

 

[Aloca]

The extra abilities is only the Base classes, for hib the trainers is Stalker,Guardian etc..

Mythic
Specing a mage Champion levels at guardian trainer:
lvl 1: Ability to weild sword..
lvl 2: Sword style
lvl 3: ??
lvl 4: Shield
lvl 5: Shield style

Or something like that

Or Heroes speccing at a mage trainer to get maybe Af buff or a low lvl dd

 

[shaark]

aye, if my pally can cast mezz spell and have stealth will be better

or why not some nukes or buff himself

 

[acei]

The sub-class abilities will undoubtedly be minor, warlock's walking around in stealth isn't going to happen. If Mythic did something so huge once again like in ToA there would be chaos, i believe they've learnt their lesson and the sub-class abilities will be just a nice minor addition to add to a class.

 

[-. -.-- -.-.]

They've said that the CL abilities arent as major as the ML abilities are,
however mythic said that ToA wouldnt make much of a difference to rvR, and look how it is now. Hmm.

 

[Robby]

This would totally make the game unbalanced. Imagine, a warlock being able to heal or cast a leechlife.





oh wait, they already do that

 

[Neo]

From what i read, this is more of a Catacombs expansion then a ToA one.
The new thingies they will add is "fun" stuff but not essential. And i belive
i saw a quote somewhere from Matt Friar "This time u really dont need to buy
it to stay competetive" or sumting like that. And since they will upgrade
Darkness Falls i really think it looks like a cool expansion

 

[Flimgoblin]

think the abilities will be nice, but hopefully not as "required" as the ML or artifact ones.

Be fun to have something new to do though oh and a horse for charge of the smite brigade! rah!

 

[Muylaetrix]

>>They've said that the CL abilities arent as major as the ML abilities are,
however mythic said that ToA wouldnt make much of a difference to rvR, and look how it is now. Hmm.

Every char can get ML`s, arte`s, nice gear with some effort.
Only warlocks and bainshee get the OP stuff for free.
For rvr.. catacombs was WORSE than toa.

The champion levels are for everyone, so they will not afect rvr as much.

 

[Kathal]

it really would surprise me if mids get the best mixes.

Adventure seeker on an empty street
Just an alley creeper light on his feet
A young fighter screaming with no time for doubt
With the pain and anger can't see a way out
It ain't much I'm asking I heard him say
Gotta find me a future move out of my way
I want it all I want it all I want it all and I want it now
I want it all I want it all I want it all and I want it now


Now give us baseline AE stun, pet spam, stealth to WLs . . . . .


Listen all you people come gather round
I gotta get me a game plan gotta shake you to the ground
Just give me what I know is mine
People do you hear me just give me the sign
It ain't much I'm asking if you want the truth
Here's to the future for the dreams of youth
I want it all (give it all) I want it all I want it all and I want it now
I want it all (yes I want it all) I want it all (hey)
I want it all and I want it NOW

 

[wutae]

The extra abilities is only the Base classes, for hib the trainers is Stalker,Guardian etc..



Or something like that

Or Heroes speccing at a mage trainer to get maybe Af buff or a low lvl dd

are u sure for that ?
some questions i really like to be answered
why do champion lvls for a lvl 5 af buff ? Oo
or why take a lvl 5 style ? Oo
or a lvl 5 heal ? Oo

i would prefer sthing like

champion lvl 1 : ability to use thrust style
champion lvl 2 : ability to use an up to lvl 15 thrust style
champion lvl 3 : ability to use an up to lvl 25 thrust style
....
champion lvl 5 : ability to use an up to lvl 45 thrust style .


same for DDs . Heals . and rest abilities ...
no reason to do champion lvls to get a lvl 5 ability ^^ ..

its even ok if u can get the ability but not able to train it !!!!!
for example a caster get the ability to wield weapon
and just use lvl 1 styles...
but its QQ for classes that already have styles ..
to get a lvl 5 nuke
Imoz best idea for champion lvls is
mythic to give us on lvl 1 the ability to use sthing from other class we choose
then on lvl 2 the ability to train it and get all the bonuses from that .
and rest lvls to give a few ( 50 for example) skill points . so we able
to train it a bit more ..
u never be able to get it too hich cause u will never have enough skill
points to remove from other skills to train that one
so we may see some varriance to the characters
characters would become more unique etc .

 

[Aloca]

are u sure for that ?
some questions i really like to be answered
why do champion lvls for a lvl 5 af buff ? Oo
or why take a lvl 5 style ? Oo
or a lvl 5 heal ? Oo

i would prefer sthing like

champion lvl 1 : ability to use thrust style
champion lvl 2 : ability to use an up to lvl 15 thrust style
champion lvl 3 : ability to use an up to lvl 25 thrust style
....
champion lvl 5 : ability to use an up to lvl 45 thrust style .


same for DDs . Heals . and rest abilities ...
no reason to do champion lvls to get a lvl 5 ability ^^ ..

its even ok if u can get the ability but not able to train it !!!!!
for example a caster get the ability to wield weapon
and just use lvl 1 styles...
but its QQ for classes that already have styles ..
to get a lvl 5 nuke
Imoz best idea for champion lvls is
mythic to give us on lvl 1 the ability to use sthing from other class we choose
then on lvl 2 the ability to train it and get all the bonuses from that .
and rest lvls to give a few ( 50 for example) skill points . so we able
to train it a bit more ..
u never be able to get it too hich cause u will never have enough skill
points to remove from other skills to train that one
so we may see some varriance to the characters
characters would become more unique etc .

Ok you can only get Baseline spells/abilities, tho they doesnt need to be lvl 5 or lower. But it is only the baseline abilities lines that you get from the beginning.

 

[Aloca]

You'll also gain up to five "champion levels," which will give high-level characters a bit of an edge. The subclass system is what's going to be interesting about this. With each champion level, you'll be able to choose an extra ability that normally wouldn't be available to your class. For example, warriors might gain some healing magic or defensive buffs. They won't be as powerful in those skills as the classes they're cribbing from, but hey, it'll help. The choice will be up to players as to whether to focus their champion points on one area of concentration or spread the points across different skills.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/daocdarknessrising/preview_6126265.html

, but you might see that same champion with the ability to fire a bow from behind a bush or toss a fireball at you. In other words, your sub-class will be a very low powered version of whatever it is you choose to take. The expectation is that sub-classes are not something that is going to massively change RvR balance. You won't see a scout suddenly turning crowd controller in the group, or an enchanter turned stealth bomber. But, you might find that the armsman who you used to take down in a few hits now has the power to bandage himself long enough for the cleric in the group to start healing.

http://www.gamersinfo.net/index.php?art/id:563

earn new Champion levels. Champion levels provide additional hit points, additional power points, sub-classing points, access to special equipment in the King’s Magery, and increased customization of mounts.

http://newswire.gamehelper.com/

Upon achieving each champion level, a player gains a champion point that he may spend at a base trainer for a mid-level skill. A 50 hero, for example, may visit a caster trainer and gain a level 15-20 spell. Champion points are achieved through regular combat, so level 50 players have a new incentive to engage in PvE combat. RvR combat will increase champion experience as well.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/102/gameID/11/from/features

 

[wutae]

i still cant get it aloca
soz but i simply cant ..
hmm help me imoz !!!

for ..example
what else my minstrel could take that would be usefull ? Oo

buffs are useless.
i dont need crush styles as long as i already have slash and insta stun !
heals are useless for me .
i dont think that nukes gonna be that usefull .
so i get nothing ? ^^

even if i focus all my points to a specific area ?
is there any hope i can ever wield a 2h sword for example? ^^
or sthing like that ?

 

[Deathbloke]

i still cant get it aloca
soz but i simply cant ..
hmm help me imoz !!!

for ..example
what else my minstrel could take that would be usefull ? Oo

buffs are useless.
i dont need crush styles as long as i already have slash and insta stun !
heals are useless for me .
i dont think that nukes gonna be that usefull .
so i get nothing ? ^^

even if i focus all my points to a specific area ?
is there any hope i can ever wield a 2h sword for example? ^^
or sthing like that ?

How about theurgist pets?

 

[Varadero]

How about theurgist pets?

Since they are specline they should remain specific for theu's.

More worried about the cabby pets tbh as they are baseline spirit.
Not that I'd personally mind having a cabby pet on my theu along with spam ;P

 

[VampiiricMist]

would be fun to run around as an armsman in shademode from having a necropet up

 

[Raven]

i still cant get it aloca
soz but i simply cant ..
hmm help me imoz !!!

for ..example
what else my minstrel could take that would be usefull ? Oo

buffs are useless.
i dont need crush styles as long as i already have slash and insta stun !
heals are useless for me .
i dont think that nukes gonna be that usefull .
so i get nothing ? ^^

even if i focus all my points to a specific area ?
is there any hope i can ever wield a 2h sword for example? ^^
or sthing like that ?

goes to show that mincers already have all the sub abilities