never mind Embattle

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Embattle

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Eh?....if your reffering to the other thread this still proves nothing since mainframes have had their day :p
 
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Embattle

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And it needs another room with aircon units in :p
 
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Originally posted by Embattle
mainframes have had their day :p

you know nothing Emb
:)


actually, I just put it up cos that cray runs alphalinux primary aiiiii
 
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Originally posted by testin_da_cable


you know nothing Emb
:)


actually, I just put it up cos that cray runs alphalinux primary aiiiii

As I told you...just like you getting an MP system. The most powerful computer system is a distributed net one :p
 
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Originally posted by Embattle
The most powerful computer system is a distributed net one :p

not quite :) cost wise, yes. Write one distrubuted parallel processing client and you're there [more or less]. I personally like decentral systems too :)
However, when viewed critically from an industrial standpoint it sucks. There are no guarentees whatsoever as to data integrity, throughput etc. There is no control. A large company would rather buy a [or several] big crays, scale them to 3 Teraflops each and chuck them in a room together and let em compute. A centralized model like that offers benefits of a kind that companys get hardons for thus that is the way they will operate. Compromises like a distributed client doesn't really cut the mustard in a managerial sense.
I would however love to see a big corp build a production Beowulf cluster with something like 10K nodes. That would blow away any 'frame ever built hehe. Decentralized computing in a centralized context wheee :)


//edit fook I can't spel hehh :)
 
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Embattle

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Most companies have no need for such massive centralised computer systems.

I know the met office has a cray to calculation weather patterns etc even though it doesn't seem to help them get the weather right. Most the time a more efficent way is to look at the sky or stick your hand out :)

Dr. David Anderson is pictured above, who is the director of the seti@home project. He was able to harvest 20 Teraflops of computing power from the Internet to help analyze SETI data recorded at Arecibo for about $800K. Now that's creativity.

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Cable tie any one?

tuxonfloor2.jpg

How about 4 racks of 1U 1GHz AMD processors to run your Doom client on. I'm sure they'll thrown in some stuffed Tux dolls if you decide to take the plunge and buy one of these babies. Actually, these 4 racks are slated for the University of Delaware and the stuffed dolls are YouDee, Delaware's mascot. (I first I thought the stuffed dolls were Extreme Linux Tux dolls, but I've been corrected on this fact.)

:)
 
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woo cool pics you found there Embattle :)

It's true that the Joe Average of companies have no purpose at all for a huge number cruncher, but I was never talking about those kind of workplaces heh. Corps that do stuff like geology, met, defence, chemicals, banks, insurance, well funded unis and such like are the ones I had in mind, as they are a)the only ones who could have a cost-justifying use for big iron and b)they are the only ones who can afford the shockingly expensive things in the first place.

Uni's usually tend to develop 'in-house' sollutions to keep costs to a minimum [as you demonstrated nicely with a pic] and projects like SETI have made great strides via their distributed computation method. One [out of a few] drawbacks to such a method is the fact that it depends entirely on donated cputime. If the trend had been "foff you're not getting my cpu cycles" the initiave [however brilliant it was] would have failed. Security and integrity are other drawbacks that would need to be adressed.

Don't get me wrong tho, I personally like the 'distributed' system [and participate too :)].
 
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Embattle

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Aha you seem to be overlooking one major section TDC......comapnies like Glaxo SmithKlein & Beechem(pharmaceutical and healthcare companies)....or what ever they're are called now :)
 
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Summo

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So what are those babies running? Win 98? Me?

Clustered Vic-20s.
 
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Testin da Cable

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they run some Unix flavor [duh :)]
oh and Emb, I cat those under 'chemical'. A bit over generic, I know but m00.
 
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Embattle

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Not your stand Unix flavour though....more minty than that :)
 
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Wij

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mainframes 0wnz j00 :)

don't think many companies would trust all their data to a 'kin PC :D
 

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