Networking AHHHH

[dogdough]

Lo all, im ripping my hair out trying to network 2 pcs together.
1) Processer - AMD XP 2100+
2) Motherboard -
3) Memory - 256MB DDRAM i think 1600
4) Graphics - Elsa MX 400
5) Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 40GB
6) Sound Card - Creative Live Value
7) Case Cooling & Other Cooling
8) Operating System - XP Pro
9) Error - Message/Problem

Hey all ive been having a bleeding nightmare trying to network my XP Pro pc to another ME pc downstairs. Im using 2 network cards, new ones and a cat5 cable. As well as having loads of problems despites many tutorials on the internet i cant get them to work. one problem is wen i go to network places even tho the cable is connected between the 2 pcs and they r both on it says no network cable connected. No lites show or nething, AHHHHH. I cant network the things together, tried network wizard and all that. Installed netbeui. Tried so much yet im dieing. Im connecting to the internet using the same cat5 cable that i use to get the network running (i swap them round) (im on isdn) so i dont think its the cable. Help before i break sumthing!!! . .or go crazy and kill sum1. TY !! DogDough

 

[~YuckFou~]

I think you need a crossover cable...... if you not using a hub that is.......... well thats what I used anyway

 

[S-Gray]

yea, you would need a Network Hub (Cost about 315/20 Low Range ones), or go for a Crossover Cable, im not sure if im right, but i think it cost about £2 p/ metre (or it was a few months back)

 

[dogdough]

wats a cross over cable?? Im using a cat5 cable, isnt that wat it is? So complicated!!! lol.

 

[~YuckFou~]

You crossover some of the wires so that the contacts are different at each end, dunno which ones. Your local PC shop could make you one in 2 mins, as mine did.

 

[dogdough]

315?? Bugger that ill go for the cable, wats a crossover cable? wats cat5 cable and wats RJ45?? AHH and is that my problem? im oging mad!

 

[dogdough]

Wait, so r u saying that a crossover cable can be made by modifying a Cat5 cable? Ive got a crimper could i make it meself?

 

[~YuckFou~]

I am not a techie, but, I think you have Cat5 cable and RJ45 connectors, normal network stuff.
You have what you need, just not put together correctly.

Imagine getting a connector from one end of your cable, and then taking it off, rotating the plug 180 through the axis of the cable and then putting it back on. Thats what you need, roughly.
I suggest a google search on crossover cables 'cus I can't be arsed

 

[S-Gray]

This is the best i could find on Crossover Cables atm

 

[~YuckFou~]

Originally posted by Super_Gray[SG]
This is the best i could find on Crossover Cables atm

You made me feel lazy SG, so I spent 15 seconds of valuable life finding this .

 

[dogdough]

Hey yeh i got sum sites like this too, just i dont hav ne spare heads and im worried ill fuck it up and cant crimp it agn. Ah gr8, this is fantastic. Im getting a 100m length of regular network cable from hong kong :/. lol. Cheers guys. Ne more help wuld be appreciated. ty

 

[~YuckFou~]

AYE AER TEH TEHCIE !"! FFS

*Goes out to stock up on doughnuts*

 

[Insane]

A hub can cost as LITTLE as £25 for a 4 port 10/100 hub

Crossover cable is simple to make, all you need are a new RJ-45 plug (£0.50 each) and you can do it yourself, the cable layouts below (sorry for the appauling way of doing it)
basically remember "One to Three, Two to Six" and thats it

orange/white -    green/white
orange           -    green
green/white   -    orange/white
blue                -    blue
blue/white      -    blue/white
green             -    orange
brown/white  -    brown/white
brown            -    brown

or you could be cheap and pick up a 2m crossover cable for £3 from PC world (belkin quality, good stuff)

 

[dogdough]

Ar turns out my crimper isnt for RJ45 connecters. And thats gonna be expensive, wuld it be cheaper to pop down the electric store and get them do it?

 

[~YuckFou~]

Originally posted by dogdough
Ar turns out my crimper isnt for RJ45 connecters. And thats gonna be expensive, wuld it be cheaper to pop down the electric store and get them do it?

yes