Network / Win2k Problem

[bids]

Wonder if anyone has any ideas ?

I have been doing some work for an engineering outfit, and have a weird problem ?

They have a network of five PC's, four running Win98, and one running W2K pro. Each set up with a class C static IP address - no other protocol insatlled. Can ping each machine fine. In the W2K machine, can see all other machines in Computers near me (including Linux Box running Samba, for Oracle dbase). However, from 98 machines, nothing appears in Network Neighborhood. Cannot browse the network from here at all. Weird thing is you can map drives using unc names from any PC.

Gateway is set up for switch, hosts file set up correctly, and WINS not in use.

Anyone know why the machines don't appear on the 98 Network Neighborhoods ?

Any ideas greatly appreciated.

 

[Testin da Cable]

a thought m8

have you file and print sharing enabled? i believe that will cause the w98 boxes to broadcast their availibility in the IP only network.
strange that you can't see the linux/samba server. that one should be telling the world that it's there. unless it's been told not to that is.

let me know

-tdc

 

[bids]

Yes m8 - file and print sharing are enabled, and the primary login is Windows Networking.

The weird part of the Linux box is that I can telnet in from the 98 boxes, run X-Session, etc , but the bloody thing will only appear in the W2K network browser - not the 98 one.

The hosts file on the 98 boxes list the Linux server, and on the Linux server, all machines are listed in hosts and hosts.allow.

Weird or wot !

 

[Testin da Cable]

ahh! um....um....um....um on your W2k box in the "my network" properties, I believe under security somewhere there is an option called something like "use netbios nameservice in network" on or off. you'll need to be administrator to get in there. i think that's the reason you can see everything from your W2k box [something uniquely M$ i think].
now why you can't see stuff from the W98 boxes, well right now I have no idea. but I'm working on it

-tdc


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oh yeah, um you are in the same network/subnet aren't you? and have you made a workgroup or suchlike?
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[bids]

I'll check out the W2K options you mention.

IP addresses are fine - subnetted default for class c (255.255.255.0), and workgroup is the classic 'WORKGROUP'.

Thanks for the help m8 - mucho appreciated.

 

[Testin da Cable]

had another thought bids.

-if you do 'find computer' from one of your w98 boxes to another, will you find it?

here's another:

-you have to actually share something for your w98 box to start telling the rest of the network about it's service.

-tdc

 

[luap]

Interesting problem. A thought I had is the Master Server Browser that M$ love so much. It may help if you boot the Win2k PC 1st and then bring up the 98's when the Win2k is fully up.

I've seen the same prob somewhere before, try http://www.microsoft.com/technet

 

[Testin da Cable]

ah but M$ os's will fight and elect a mb if none is available and if a NT server is available it will win by default and you can configure linux to win by default id you'd want

 

[bids]

Tried the find function from all Windoze machine and it works fine !

Tried the boot in sequence thing too Luap - still can't see bugger all in Network Neighborhood.

Everything seems to work fine - can share the 'shared' drives from the 98 machines if I map to the unc, and they appear as shared drives within my computer too.

Now I'm really confused !

 

[Testin da Cable]

don't be m8.
without netbios, this is what you get


you've just found out what wins servers are for i guess

-tdc