Napster

[Embattle]

Are you going to pay for it?

 

[Testin da Cable]

no


word

 

[old.MeanMrMustard]

I will crack it instead

 

[old.TUG]

lol

Nah, I don't think I'd pay for it... I'd just buy more CD's - they sound better anyway.

 

[Embattle]

I use napster most the time to get some of my older taped music into a format I can use and also to listen to a whole song instead of 30secs.

 

[Perplex]

Only use it to get radio sessions from years back that I can't get anymore, like radio1 essential mixes from years back. Also, I download new albums to see what they are like before I fork out money for the CD. I also happen to use it for getting the odd single from years back that would be a nightmare to find in the shops.

Got about 18 gigs of mp3s now, and I have the actual purchased CDs for about 13 gigs of that.

I may pay for napster...I'll see. Suppose if I buy an album I don't like HMV are always happy to take them back, so that may be the way

 

[old.TUG]

I use it for getting 12" rips of all me trancey tunes... I don't bother getting other styles from it really. Mind you, I haven't been on for a coupla weeks.

It's useful, but I could live without it cuz I'd just start minidiscing more off the radio then linking to PC and making 'em into mp3's

 

[Perplex]

bahhhh tug. go buy the wax mate

got about 3000 vinyls here, love the sound from them. CD is too crunchy and crisp. Vinyl is crystal clear, but has a warm sound to it. I still buy CD's for the 'normal' music I listen to, but for the DJing stuff, it's gotta be wax

Then again, most of the stuff I get on wax are white-labels...which means there's no way I could ever hope to find them on napster (well, not until they had been officially released by a label, by which point the records "punter appeal" has been well and truely rinsed out)

 

[old.Quorthon]

Napster is excellent for listening to stuff before you buy - especially if you are not into radio-friendly music and are therefore required to take a £15 plunge on which you have no comeback.

As I said in the Metallica thread, good bands have nothing to fear from Napster, and the guys who just listen to mp3's only, are probably not the cd-buying type anyway. Its like Rolex watches, Rolex make very little effort to stamp out the widespread copying of their products, because it doesnt impact their target market at all- the geezer who pays $15 in times square for a fake would never be in that league anyway

Will I pay for it? No. As said above I will either get a crack, or just go to alt.binaries.music.mp3 or the various web pages around that still have good stuff on them.

Q

 

[FunGas]

pay? eh? I might uninstall if I remember...

by the way, and more to the point, does anyone have a napster that crashes (beta8) or is it just my own little luxury?

 

[Guest]

Originally posted by Perplex
bahhhh tug. go buy the wax mate

got about 3000 vinyls here, love the sound from them. CD is too crunchy and crisp. Vinyl is crystal clear, but has a warm sound to it. I still buy CD's for the 'normal' music I listen to, but for the DJing stuff, it's gotta be wax

Then again, most of the stuff I get on wax are white-labels...which means there's no way I could ever hope to find them on napster (well, not until they had been officially released by a label, by which point the records "punter appeal" has been well and truely rinsed out)

you can actually find a fair few white labels on Napster, I'm half way through MP3ing my entire vinyl collection (6K to go) and I tend to stick the new stuff I get straight on to the pooter.

 

[Stazbumpa]

I agree totally, vinyl is king I get a load of white label and promo stuff off Napster tho'.
Got Jakata's "American Booty", good copy too. I need Napster coz none of the mailing lists will let me on, so I can't get the promo's unless I spend a fortune in the record stores (which I still do, in moderation tho').

At the end of the day I gotta earn a living, so if the record companies won't let me join the club, I gotta get the tunes some other way and that means I use Napster sometimes.

Bit of a bugger really.

 

[Ono]

!

 

[old.TUG]

Oh I wish I could afford 5 quid a pop for vinyl

Maybe next year when I have a bit more cash (hopefully!!)

 

[bodhi]

I doubt I shall be paying for napster tbh. I ran out of things to download from it ages ago, have a 9gig mp3 collection, none of which is also on CD. We have a lovely thing at uni called "Network Neighbourhood" which is great for leaching mp3s, and beats Napster hands down tbh, as someone is BOUND to have the track you're looking for.

As far as CD vs Vinyl goes, CD wins hands down for me. The fact that you can't scratch on it sounds like a bonus to me, and I didnt pay 400 quid for a CD Player to listen to crackly old LPs (even tho my old Duran Duran collection does get dusted off once in a while ). Altho the best recording I have heard was a pressing of Beethoven's 9th played on a Rega Planar 3, but classical music seems to sound better on LP anyway. But seeing as I listen to classical music once a month at the most, CD still gets my vote.

 

[Testin da Cable]

and all that for the difference 'tween a sampled sine and the real thing

 

[Stazbumpa]

um..Bodhi, we ain't talking about CD -vs- Vinyl in the listen-to-it-in-your-living-room sense. We're on about club use m8, and although CD's are a damn sight easier to carry, vinyl is far more versatile.

As far as front rooming goes, CD has the edge due to space considerations.

 

[shabazz]

I think Napster should really stay as it is - personally I've bought far tooooo many cd's and vinyl since its release - basically it's made me buy more stuff since i can get access to stuff, other than radio / singles / etc.

vinyl is far too much though - i get most of mine from the us (hip-hop though) as it still costs more to get em over here (lately 7-12 quid a pop). I usually buy a few and good places, like http://www.hiphopsite.com, usually chuck in free promos / albums / posters / snippets, etc. It actaully works out a fair bit cheeper to get them this way, strangely enough. Even if they are coming from Las Vegas
Just dont mention anything to mr VAT.....

onto napster again, how could they warrant the consumer paying for it? What about all those unreleased songs that appear on there - i've got plenty on songs that will never see the light of day, but i wouldnt "pay" for them.

Personally, I think if it becomes a pay-for service most of the songs will dissappear. Will the record companies really let their new artists material appear 6 months before release? - even if they do get some $ back. Surely it would need some sort of moderation?

The proposed cd-now link might be better - but only if it gives you a option to buy stuff - not to get told to. Again, implementation would be a bugger - would a song by an artist be linked to their releases through the name prefix? If so, it would be different to what it is now - i.e. white label / unreleased stuff - what about these?

(I hope everyone knows what i mean by all this )

 

[old.Kez]

Originally posted by shabazz
Personally, I think if it becomes a pay-for service most of the songs will dissappear. Will the record companies really let their new artists material appear 6 months before release? - even if they do get some $ back. Surely it would need some sort of moderation?

Heh, they can't 'afford' (much as they have done previously ;p) to let napster have their songs earlier than released, as it'd take one user to download it and put it on a site, and its worldwide again.

There really is very little that can stop mp3 anymore. Thankfully.

 

[old.Jimmy]

jjj

napster should be free, i hardly get any money and music i lissen to is never on radio, it sucks, napster is a good source of music. even if you had to pay for napster, people would hack it and another napster would come out and be free so it is a bit of a n uphill struggle for napster to charge.

 

[Perplex]

Originally posted by stazbumpa
I agree totally, vinyl is king I get a load of white label and promo stuff off Napster tho'.
Got Jakata's "American Booty", good copy too. I need Napster coz none of the mailing lists will let me on, so I can't get the promo's unless I spend a fortune in the record stores (which I still do, in moderation tho').

At the end of the day I gotta earn a living, so if the record companies won't let me join the club, I gotta get the tunes some other way and that means I use Napster sometimes.

Bit of a bugger really.

erm, having mp3s of whitelabels really is not going to help when I need to play it at a venue and no, no way in a million years would I EVER use a puter to mp3 mix into my vinyl sets. cos mp3 mixing is for muppets

 

[old.frankie]

i wouldnt know

but the clubbers wouldnt know, they are too outta their head to know anything other than "more beer" or "sexeh ladies"

 

[old.TUG]

depends wot kinda clubber u are frankie m8.

 

[Stazbumpa]

Originally posted by Perplex
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erm, having mp3s of whitelabels really is not going to help when I need to play it at a venue and no, no way in a million years would I EVER use a puter to mp3 mix into my vinyl sets. cos mp3 mixing is for muppets [/B][/QUOTE]

MP3 mixing isn't mixing is it really, its setting a pute to do it for you. I stick the MP3's of white label stuff onto a CD which I can use until I get the vinyl.

Yes, I really can mix with CD's aswell as vinyl.
You can do that nowadays.

 

[Testin da Cable]

clients

anyone tried the new client [beta9]?
totally f00ks my comp it did and all the other little betas are fookt as well.
now I use [forced to more like] audioGnome, and it's quite cool actually it lets me do all kinds of fun stuff

any thoughts?

 

[Perplex]

Originally posted by stazbumpa
MP3 mixing isn't mixing is it really, its setting a pute to do it for you. I stick the MP3's of white label stuff onto a CD which I can use until I get the vinyl.

Yes, I really can mix with CD's aswell as vinyl.
You can do that nowadays.

bahhh, damn cd mixers so clinical, so detatched. Wax any day

 

[nothing]

Napster? Have I missed something here, or is this about CD remixing? My friend can do that at school - he's got all the stuff.