N00by Grouping

[[SS]Gamblor]

Ok , so i'm lvling my Heretic now.

However only from 1 - 5 did i do any grouping. rest of the time when trying to find someone to grp with i get told "I'm just testing the class", or "nahh not high enough" ( and these guys are yellow to me :/)


Anyone else been having similar problems.

The task instance's are grand for xp. but I keep thinking back to venturing out ot sailsbury plains at lvl 8 , in a fg with me as a healer ( play a frair back then) going kwel =).... but no luck these days

 

[old.Whoodoo]

My son plays a heretic on Pryd, same there, quite a few ppl running round doign KTs and so on, but no one wants to group, some cheeky sod had the nerve to ask him for buffs the other day after refusing to group with him.

DAoC certainly has taken a turn for the selfish.

 

[DavidH]

DAoC certainly has taken a turn for the selfish.

Unfortunataly, yes. I just realized this myself the other day too. :\

 

[Mikah75]

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very true. ive tried grping on hib/excal and alb/pryd with new classes but everyone just goes "nah soloing" or "grping with friends only".

 

[Daedalus]

...DAoC certainly has taken a turn for the selfish...

Actually, no, it's turning WoWish.
Unfortunatly.

 

[Shanaia]

such a shame to hear this ... salisbury plains were the best daoc days ever

 

[Kais]

maybe the vast majority of people exping new chars atm already have a number of ingame friends, theres no longer the 'need' to group to meet other players. The people saying its selfish are totally wrong on this matter really, no one can dictate how to play the game providing you stay within rules set out in the coc. Ok exping my first few toons the normal way in random groups was great fun, I met a few people I still talk to/play with even now. However, its my guess that very few of the people exping currently are looking to meet new players, the vast majority probably have a guild they are happy in and quite a few ingame mates. If it goes faster soloing they have nothing to gain really, i'm sure the chitchat in /gu and pms can help keep boredom at bay

 

[Jobil]

Actually, no, it's turning WoWish.
Unfortunatly.

i have yet to find difficulties grouping in WoW

 

[Sandariel]

I'm currently leveling up a sorc and got asked twice if I wanted to group...
...and turned both of them down because they didn't have catacombs :/

One of them wanted to kill dunters and the other one wanted to kill pygmys. No way I'll ever kill any of those mobs again after grinding there with 5+ chars. So I politely told them that I'm sorry and that I don't want to xp in the "old world" now that catacombs is out since catacombs areas are a lot more fun to exp in etc.

Dunno if this is selfish, I guess it is, but I really HATE those exping places. No way I'll ever hit one of those mobs again.

On the other hand, I would have definitely grouped if they'd have had catacombs to do some duo/trio dungeon tasking. It's a lot faster than soloing those

I gotta agree though, since Catacombs is out and solo exping is a lot easier than before, it's very hard to find people willing to group.

Which is rather sad, since I actually think grouping in daoc is awesome... and I'm not talking about opted PL groups here. I'm talking about those random exp groups where you had to make the best out of a situation with the classes you had available. Had some weird group setups after release with my wizzie. We didn't get a lot of xp, but it was damn good fun and it was act ually a challenge

 

[boppas]

maybe its summit mythic need to work on... why not give members of a grp bonuses for being in a grp...the more ppl in the grp the more bonus they get etc

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Actually, no, it's turning WoWish.
Unfortunatly.

Having not played it live (still in its box after I lost my enthusiasm for it playing beta), I cant comment.

All I can say is, that since TOA, the game has gone down the ceramic pan swirly style as far as grouping, items and finances are concerned, despite Mythics attempts at making things better.

They gave bonus's to low levels who group with higher players, great but still no one wants to group with someone 10 levels beneath them. They also want the xp all to themselves, no logical thinking that 2 can kill 2 mobs as fast or faster than one alone. PLing is also killing this off, but heck, theres no way to stop it.

Scrolls and artifacts are the worst example of this, there is such a thing as "too rare", ive got 7 artis for my Warlock, Im looking at a bill of 100p for the scrolls though, which to a casual player is insane. One of my guild m8s plays 3-4 nights a week, 2-3 hours a day, very casual, he has got himself to 46 in a few weeks, but his purse holds a mere 3p, no where near the 15p someone wants for the scroll he needs for his 1 and only artifact. He cant go into ML7 dungeon and get it himself either, his playtime doesnt allow it, and also getting ML3 in the first place is problematic.

Gone are also the days when a realm was under attack, everyone dropped everything and came running, "sorry, pharming" is the reply. Each to their own and all that, but heck, the sociability that once drove this games populatiry is depleting.

/endwhine

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

Actually, no, it's turning WoWish.
Unfortunatly.

but thats on of the reasons i wasn't as keen on WoW as i am on daoc .


it's great when you find someone who you can lvl along side , they became friends of mine someone i always talk to, helps now they are guildys on alb/excal.

But thinking back of found memories and who i've grpd with give more a sense of "those good old days" than thinking about how kwel my char might of been.

Give back fumbeling scouts ... oh wait ... Ello Nakky :touch:

 

[Shanaia]

[..]/endwhine

all things people do with the game Mythic gives them ... not the other way around ...

Artifacts were designed to be superrare very special items ... you chose to have 7 artifacts in your template ... mythic didn't force you ... people chose to make them that expensive ... people chose to farm them rather then help out the realm .. etc etc etc

 

[Skilgannon]

I had a blast levelling my Heretic. Soloed alot early on but also grouped. I wanted to revisit some of the old places so did Mithra, Salisbury Plains, Keltoi, Tepok and the Roman Villa.

Then from 30 ish primarily grouped with another Guild Heretic and did Danoin Fishermen/Farmers before moving to The Frontlines in Catacombs. In between did lots of Catacombs quests.

Levelling Heretic has been the most fun I have had in PvE in this game. 1 - 49 in a week and fun all the way.

The only problem that I found with early grouping was that noone wanted to visit the old places. They wanted xp as fast as possible and so the trip out there wasn't worth sacrificing a bub or two in time for. Shame really as the old spots are easilly accessed via Abandoned Mines. Very few players seem to want to have fun with their early chars. They just want to ding 50 times in the shortest period possible. Yet now I look at some of those who wouldn't come with me because it was a waste of time and they con green

 

[eggy]

...noone wanted to visit the old places. They wanted xp as fast as possible and so the trip out there wasn't worth sacrificing a bub or two in time for.

Old places = camp bonus = awesome xp.

Am not a fan of Catacombs kill tasks/quests/instanced dungeons myself, I prefer 50 people sitting at gobbo house in 6 groups

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

Old places = camp bonus = awesome xp.

Am not a fan of Catacombs kill tasks/quests/instanced dungeons myself, I prefer 50 people sitting at gobbo house in 6 groups

yeah the xp was just insaine =)

got 28 to 40 in about 6ish days =). Well before all the PL crap.

 

[Marc]

haha nooby groups were ace. 8 people just bashing different mobs. It was awesome. Ahh the days of being a new player!!!!!

 

[Huntingtons]

shame xping became a grind instead of a joy 8/

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

I enjoy xping tbh , well on some chars i do. hence i got my necro 50 , but my scout is still 49 .

heretic is great fun so far, so never know you could see me out and about in about 3 weeks =) ( i only get to play from about 7 till 11 most nights, thats if i'm not needed somewher else )

 

[Aoln]

all things people do with the game Mythic gives them ... not the other way around ...

Artifacts were designed to be superrare very special items ... you chose to have 7 artifacts in your template ... mythic didn't force you ... people chose to make them that expensive ... people chose to farm them rather then help out the realm .. etc etc etc

People are forced to get the artifacts to compete, otherwise the guy with the better items will win by default.. how's that the player's fault?

 

[Bracken]

shame xping became a grind instead of a joy 8/

Xping didn't change (in fact it's easier now). The attitude did...

 

[Aoami]

i dinged my theurg 30 yesterday and the only grp i've had from 1-30 was a group from 28-30 in barrows :|

 

[Influenza]

I started playing about a month after SI came out , took me a week to get to level 5 , then i picked armsman.
Used to play nearly everynight and all you had to do to get a group was sit at pkb for 10 mins , i remember times when there was 5-7 groups exping in salisbury plains.
All of it kinda died after they gave /level to people , would make a new alt ( didnt have a 50 then so no level) and youd end up doing kill tasks cos there were very few people to group with.
Them times are still the best memories i have in daoc , going from mithra to salis plains then onto keltoi , met a load of nice people but sadly only 1 or 2 still play the game or i lost touch when people created new alts etc...
The only time i never got a group on my arms was 39-42 which i soloed unbuffed in barrows , i was apparently too low for AC (most of the groups were 43+ then) and too high for barrows.
You have so many areas to exp in these days the people are more spread out but i wish leveling still felt like it used to and didnt have the burden of doing TOA after it.

 

[Neffneff]

ToA killed lvling for me. no longer was lvl 50 an ever nearing goal..i symbol of the pinnacle of effort you placed in your char...NOW getting lvl 50 is basically the pre-req for ToA 0o

i just feel like i have to go find moughart and farm egg n sword all over again when i make a new char.

 

[Darzil]

I've loved the instance dungeons. Got my cleric to 50 in one yesterday. We cleared the lower barrows one in a 5 person group the other day, gaining about 2 bulbs on those who were still training, in about an hour, whilst not even thinking about the training, cos it was such fun.

I don't mind Master Levels too much. I tend to start them about level 40, and hit 50 around ML6-7ish, depending on what else I'm doing. Much easier that way, but it only really works if most others wait til 50 <grin> (Or are like me and get their 50's out to help others' 40's).

Darzil

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

was teaming with another Heretic last night, and the xp brought in is twice as fast as tasking. now if only i could find a constant grp , or if grpoups where a little easier to come by

 

[Helme]

Wish I could group up with some people, however im just trying the new classes on Prydwen and usally go back to Exc alot and don't want to piss anyone off by logging 10 minutes after we started the group. Thought the taskdungeons rocks with 2 people, goes twice as fast and same reward.

 

[Flimgoblin]

i just feel like i have to go find moughart and farm egg n sword all over again when i make a new char.

gone come 1.75 no more ML3 quests

 

[Solarius]

gone come 1.75 no more ML3 quests

1.75 is going to be key for alot of people I think, myself included. Right now, it just doesn't feel like I (as a casual player) can really achieve much in DAoC, as the MLs present a real barrier to anyone who can't always make raids (why are so many raids starting at 5pm or earlier??) and can't bring themselves to put themselves through the pain and misery of leading one (been there, never again! Kudos to those that lead raids, I say!)

1.75 will go a long way to helping there, you won't get people bitching about missing xyz step before doing x.10 any more, they can get credit for x.10 abd go back to do the missed steps when it's convenient. Thats how it should have been from the start

 

[Formash]

Ok , so i'm lvling my Heretic now.

However only from 1 - 5 did i do any grouping. rest of the time when trying to find someone to grp with i get told "I'm just testing the class", or "nahh not high enough" ( and these guys are yellow to me :/)


Anyone else been having similar problems.

The task instance's are grand for xp. but I keep thinking back to venturing out ot sailsbury plains at lvl 8 , in a fg with me as a healer ( play a frair back then) going kwel =).... but no luck these days

Soloed my heretic all the way to 20 , solely in task instance dungeons.

Grouped my 14 Bainshee from 1-14 all the time with a vamp, excellent combo imo.

PL'ing toons seems to be happening just as much, but now in task instances too, 50% more exp, means quicker PL. fine if you can't be arsed to learn the class till you get it into Thid / Lervik / Molvik or straight to 50. But there are obviously people somewhere who also want to group. I miss that too.