My pbaoe group.

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old.Downanael

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So all who havent checked previous tread this the place :).

If you haven't confirmed by Monday Evening you lose the spot

We will start next Wednesday 17th 17:30 cet meeting front of Varulham,I want everyone confirm they are ready to stay untill we all are lvl 50 hopefully :)

Confirmed:
Gerra(Me) -Shaman
Camik-Tank
Rarnae-Spiritmaster
Vim-Spiritmaster
Boooom-Healer
Tank-Diviona
Tank-Galiryn



Some class tips:

PAC Healer:

Final spec does not really matter. Of course 48PAC 24mend is best if you want a CC healer, but 40Mend 36 PAC and similiar specs aren't "gimped" either, of course your char must be viable in RvR too

lvl50 Shammybot and lvl50 HealerBot would be awesome too (Could even drop healer or make Mend/Aug healer and use lvl50 bot for stunning)

If you do /level 20, spec ALL to PAC. gives good AE stun and 2nd POX. Then when you ding 21,22,23,24, spec ALL to mend. This gives 20PAC/13Mend (First Insta!)

About AE Stunning. Only Stun when mobs are boxed (Tanks pull them in one spot for maximized SM damage). But if we get huge pull (too much for tanks to handle), you may stun to prevent SM's/Healers/RM from being hit. Spam AE stun 3-4 times. Even when stun wears off, next stick will still be 50% of duration, what grants at least 1-2 safe PBAOE's

WITH POXBOT:

After 24 Healer can still continue speccing Mending so he can work as primary healer too. So if he is doing 48PAC 24Mend, Spec Mend all the way from 21 to 32. After that keep taking PAC up.

With 40Mend 36PAC Spec you will need lvl 44 for 40Mend (And leftovers of that level to PAC, what grants 22 PAC), and then all the minidings and dings to PAC.

Of course 20 PAC means only 7 second AE STUN that does NOT stick well (As stick formula includes spell level) so i don't really advise doing it like this with 40Mend 36PAC spec. Might be advisable to spec PAC every 2 levels (so 25 PAC, 26 Mend, 27 PAC, 28 Mend and so forth)

Shaman:

As PAC healer with /level20 should do as above, Shammy should at 20 spec 12 Aug for first ER 1st Acuity, THEN spec rest to mend as PAC healer cannot heal well until ding 24. This way Shaman will be "primary" healer until 24. This has been done before and IMO it's the best way. After this PAC healer can spec how he likes, altho i'd keep going high PAC so we get better POX fast!

WITH BUFFBOT:

As we should have buffbot or two, Buffbot can grant End Regens and most of buffs. So if Shammy wants, he can go 20Mend @ 20 and then start speccing Aug, or even take Mend to whatever level he is planning and after that start speccing Aug. Can't give much tips here, all up to Shammy himself. But full mend Shammy heals well enough, and gets group friggs at 26 (Note that there is the level 40 respec ;)

Shaman being Mend would be safe, as we would have 2 decent healers then. While exping it does not really matter if you are not "ub3r buff3r"

Warriors/Savages:

If Savage wants 2H he should do H2H until lvl40, as they need to be able to keep aggro and 2H misses are REAL pain. Then just respec at 40.

Warriors.. well, kobolds would be awesome if you can play Slambot/Guardbot. But in the end it's up to you of course :)

Supp RM:

Race is up to you. Dwarf has most HP so it stays alive longer (Important with PBT) but then again Snare DD is on long cast time.. so Kobold's Dex has benefits.

50 Supp is good spec (last single snare DD), or at least 44 Supp for best PBT (last AE Snare DD is 46). Supp RM will be puller (due nerfsight). Do NOT get frustarted if tanks let mob through and you die. in my earlier Midgroup our RM kept dying at least couple times / day. It's all up to how skilled tanks / stunner is. But even if we get couple total wipes / day, we will get the exp back damn fast. So do not get frustrated no matter what :)

Before 26 Just do group BT and spam single BT on guys who keep aggro.

Spiritmasters:

I dunno what spec you are taking, im probably going 50 Supp (for last single mez), 20 Dark, 4 Summ. The 2 more dark that you gain from going only 49 Supp isn't that huge increase...

One should always use AE STR/CON Debuff. It doesn't help loads, but it does help. Just make sure that all mobs have been hit/taunted, as this takes very little aggro and may make you die.If you haven't confirmed by Monday Evening you lose the spot
 
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old.Downanael

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General Tips:

- All Casters MUST have Focus staves, period!
- Spiritmasters should have gear with capped piety for some major damage. Also of course acuity buff (Shammy bot would be awesome for purple acuity buff.
- If anyone has lvl50 friend in Alb/Hib Prydwen, ask him if he can come ie to Emain to trees behind MPK so you could kill him once or twice for MCL. Vim already has MCL so this is not an issue for me.
- Casters save power. If we do Red/lowpurp like we should, about 3-4 blasts from 3 SM's should be enough. With POX and MCL's we can almost chainpull, just puller must watch casters/healers power.
- Healer/Shammy, do NOT hesitate to run if situation really goes critical. Tanks should ALWAYS stay and fight even if you obviously are going to die to give healers more time to save themselves and come back to rez. wipes may/will occure, but lost exp is nothing, we get it back in 3-5 pulls. So do not care for your own exp, just make sure that Healer or Sham will make it. But releasing and running back to malmo from Galp -> Gna -> Horse to West Scona -> Running with RM speed really sucks. (If we get that Bot, this will of course not be an issue :)

If anyone who joins has a crafter char, it would be awesome to always get crafted armor for tanks/crafted cloth for casters. SC would be even more uber to have that cappied piety and possible other stats like DEX/CON/HITS/Melee resists. Then later you can save these and pass them to guildie alts or just salvage them (or give them to me ;)

Players with rich mains must do some investments here (like DF seals for focus staves, gear and SC's). Personally Vim has only 550g and im raising tailoring (only 200 :( ), but i can always donate small amounts

THE OBVIOUS:

Do not, and i repeat, do not join if you think that you can't nolife 4-5 days / week minimum :p Sure some days will be cancelled, anything can come up.. You may have to go to hospital, you may not get a ride home due missing a bus and so forth.. or you may have some important meeting. But never ever be away because of something that you could do some other day (ie weekend when we may not play) or what you could do after we ding 50.

Also it's probably wise to temporarily share some phonenumbers. At least i'd prefer to share mine with couple guys so i can SMS if something critical comes up and you don't have to wait for me for 3 hours and wonder where the fuck i am. Sure SMS's cost abit more abroad but for me it's not critical at least..

After 35+ it's not so terrible if we are missing one guy as we aren't getting 5 levels / day anymore like we will get 20 -> 30. Temporare replacements can be taken in for cases like this so 1 guy won't ruin it for rest 7. But in this case he should be powerleveled / should exp on freetime to catch others. But before 35 there shouldn't really be any skippings (note that 20 -> 35 in this group means 4 days MAX)

Starting:

Personally i'd prefer that you'd start at 24 (like i said, i can offer some Pwrlvl altho Vim is only 29..) or do /level 20 and exp to 24 at your freetime before we start. I can instantly join in and help you in group to my level but im not sure would level 29 SM @ lvl24 group ruin the exp..

I checked the hunting guide and it looks ok. Our group did only to lvl36 and then splitted but we did those same mobs on Spots #1 and #2. Did some huge red-ora pull on scout (12+ mobs) and survived :D Was playing PAC healer (Had 3 SM's)

Also it's best to create temporary guild for this, so we easily can communicate even before grouping (Use Guildchat), and can get nice outlook ;) Name suggestions? And after this is done, join your own guild if you have one :)

Training:

We should only train when something critical is gained (READ: SM's get new PBAOE). Train at 24 (Unless we start at 24) so healer gets 13Mend. Train at 27 so SM's get new PBAOE and RM gets PBT (Or RM go train fast [Maybe with suicide as you guys will be at Varulv] to get PBT instantly)], then at 34 again for PBAOE and so forth. No running to train every 2 levels


(Orginally written by Vim)
 
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box4m

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if there is spot for healer, i want in, inform me how to do to join etc pls
 
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old.Atrox

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for the SMs, get a cheap lvl20ish~ staff and add 3x 50focus. You can use this staff all the way to 50

focus doesnt cost imbue points.
 
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Vim

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Originally posted by old.Atrox
for the SMs, get a cheap lvl20ish~ staff and add 3x 50focus. You can use this staff all the way to 50

focus doesnt cost imbue points.

Good advice. Thought that FOCUS does not work if gray staff but might have been wrong..
 
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old.Atrox

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Originally posted by Vim
Good advice. Thought that FOCUS does not work if gray staff but might have been wrong..

Afaik Con doesnt matter, just re-read Sanyas Grabbag post about focus and couldnt find anything about that.
Not that she's never been wrong before thou :)
 
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mordia

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Originally posted by old.Downanael
- If anyone has lvl50 friend in Alb/Hib Prydwen, ask him if he can come ie to Emain to trees behind MPK so you could kill him once or twice for MCL. Vim already has MCL so this is not an issue for me.

Tut tut!
 
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old.Downanael

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Originally posted by mordia
Tut tut!


We just thinking fastest way to exp and with MCL that is :D But looks we getting healer bot with us anyhow
 
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brite

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if your rm doesnt confirm just give me a message
 
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KoreanLover

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I'll take healer spot, my healer is lvl 24.. confirmed ;)

Name is Longlegs. Im 22 pac, 9 mend atm
Oh wait.. i have to hear: In which period of time are we xping? I got work etc. But 4pm to 11 pm or so sounds okay.
 
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old.Downanael

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Originally posted by KoreanLover
I'll take healer spot, my healer is lvl 24.. confirmed ;)

Name is Longlegs. Im 22 pac, 9 mend atm
Oh wait.. i have to hear: In which period of time are we xping? I got work etc. But 4pm to 11 pm or so sounds okay.


Afraid healer's backup been already taken,seems the only open spot if i havent heard from Morc by tomorrow is warrior. We will go around 17:30-around 10:00 cet,depends on days and how people want to do it.


All who have signed up for backup slots remember dont sign up if you think you cant do this,I want only peole who are ready to put time on this.
 
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Galiryn

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if no -tank- spot is taken i can take a savage spot ;)

pm me here if there is :)
 
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Vim

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Originally posted by Galiryn
if no -tank- spot is taken i can take a savage spot ;)

pm me here if there is :)

Faj hasn't confirmed yet it seems..
Hope he comes tho, he has a Healerbot :/
 
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Mmrr

Guest
hey.

Can't make it. :(

some problems IRL.

speak with you later Dow
 
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Vim

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Originally posted by Galiryn
if no -tank- spot is taken i can take a savage spot ;)

pm me here if there is :)

nm he added you already :) Just confirm it..
 
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Vim

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Boooomie aka Gaffel / Boooom / Jag / Mcbuffy taking Healerspot if no confirmation from Xsi
 
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old.Downanael

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jammin0o you in if you still intrested.

Chanced warrior for third SM as noone seems to be intrested for playing warrior
 
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Galiryn

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de-confirming the tank spot


sorry , but i cant anyway ;/
 
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Vim

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So Savage it is. Be 24 (if you are 20 atm come to #midgroup asap, i will PL Boooomie and Gerra from 22 to 24, may also take you to 20 -> 24, we got buffbot and i can pull 4-6 yellows easily without risks..) @ 17:30 front of Varulvhamn!

Join #midgroup @ irc.quakenet.org anyways
 

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