My new template RR5+

Punishment

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This is my new template for rr5+ with spec ...

35+15 Stealth
36+15 Blades
32+15 Envenom <With 1 swapout piece>
44+15 Critical strike
32+15 Celtic Duel<With full autotrain ... 31+15 With my autotrain to level 40>

Now i know some of the resists are low ... but im going Group heal/sists spec ... only QQ i have is 21% crush but its something i must accept for nice stats/melee bonus/+11 cd

All comments welcome good or bad :D

Config Report

Stats

Str: 100 Int: 0 Hits: 376
Con: 85 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 80 Cha: 0
Qui: 42 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 25 Energy: 8 Crush: 21
Cold: 0 Matter: 6 Thrust: 28 (3)
Heat: 25 Spirit: 21 (5) Slash: 25 (2)

Skills

11 Stealth

4 Envenom

11 Critical Strike

11 Celtic Dual

11 Blades

Focus

Cap Increases

5 Dex

5 Qui

172 Hits

25 Str

10 Con

Other Bonuses

11 Melee Damage Bonus

20 AF Bonus

15 Style Damage Bonus

8 Melee Speed Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard Of Valour
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Blades - 99 flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 3 Critical Strike - 99 rough Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 13 Dexterity - 99 imperfect Vapor Essence
Gem 4: 11 Slash Resist - 99 faceted Watery Shielding
Utility: 65.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 13 Constitution - 99 imperfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 4 Blades - 99 flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 11 Heat Resist - 99 faceted Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
Utility: 65.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Blades - 99 rough Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 4 Critical Strike - 99 flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Slash Resist - 99 imperfect Watery Shielding
Gem 4: 76 Hits - 99 perfect Blood Essence
Utility: 68.00

Hands
Name: MS
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 7: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Strength - 99 perfect Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 28 Dexterity - 99 perfect Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 7 Body Resist - 99 imperfect Dusty Shielding
Gem 4: 2 Stealth - 99 uncut Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 61.33

Right Hand
Name: Malice Axe
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Left Hand
Name: Champ offhander
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Celtic Dual
Effect 2: 12 Strength
Effect 3: 12 Quickness
Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 36.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: paidrean
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Dreadstalker jewel
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 12 Dexterity
Effect 2: 3 Stealth
Effect 3: 4 Celtic Dual
Effect 4: 4 Critical Strike
Effect 5: 4 Envenom
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 83.00

Belt
Name: Kracken Tail Belt
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Thrust Resist
Effect 2: 8 Body Resist
Effect 3: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 8 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 44 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.00

Right Ring
Name: RoD
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 12 Dexterity
Effect 2: 3 Stealth
Effect 3: 12 Strength
Effect 4: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00

Left Ring
Name: Heavens
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 38.00

Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of heavenly bodies
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 80 Hits
Effect 3: 48 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 4: 7 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Left Wrist
Name: Zahur Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 60 Hits
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00
 

Neo

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I prefere open MH temps, but tis looks decent. Is NSs vulnerable to crush btw ?
 

Punishment

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Neo said:
I prefere open MH temps, but tis looks decent. Is NSs vulnerable to crush btw ?

Yup we is Ninni :D ... dont tell any of the shadowblades i got low crush sist tho :p

P.S. U > Me ... :(
 

Agrigo

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ITS SH1T 1!!!.
ok didn't read it, but i stand by my comment :p
 

Punishment

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Agrigo said:
ITS SH1T 1!!!.
ok didn't read it, but i stand by my comment :p

Look gimme a friggin break :p

Im 11mb into a 40mb dl for 1.82 after getting my pc back from the shop ... updating my modem drivers @ ZzzzZZZzz speed :(

My 1.82 dl stopping for no reason every 2mb is just teh w00tw00tzorre ... Generic Win32 proccesses have encountered a problem and need to close ... 95% through a 2.6 mb file as part of 1.82 ... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr fucking naaab dialup :s

P.s. <3 @ MY MIGIT
 

Frozensolid

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not that it makes diference to ur temp, but the 2% style dmg on the heavens ring is pve only :p
 

Dracus

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Crush way too low, too much dex (Imo), get more cold, around 10% at least(some n0b leggy users might not swap to heat and go ninja on ur arse) other than that it looks, so-so.

Blade temps are easy Imo, you should be able to do better :)

/Dracus
 

Punishment

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Dracus said:
Crush way too low, too much dex (Imo), get more cold, around 10% at least(some n0b leggy users might not swap to heat and go ninja on ur arse) other than that it looks, so-so.

Blade temps are easy Imo, you should be able to do better :)

/Dracus

Afaik using champ weapon gives 5% passive resists to all melee so effective 26% crush @ all times ... and when i swap to battler for my 3rd envenom same story ... 26% crush :D So not gonna get too hung up on that .

As for cold afaik leather is 5% resistant to cold and ill have 10% self sist up for 15% effective cold ... imo this is enough :D

100 Str
85 con
80 dex <365 on elf buffed/370 on luwi +10 points dex @ creation>

+11 stealth/cs/blades/cd

10/10/8 dmg/style/spd

all sists with self sists up 15-20% @ the lowest ... i think its a good template tbh ... sure its damage oriented ... and also 372 hp ... givf me a better offensive ns blades template and ill go for that tbh
 

Aiteal

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Lazy leggy users are much more likely to be carrying heaters
Lazy mids/albs often use heaters on my ranger, but being that hib RF is bugged and neutral to heat and not resistant its a bigger pain
the 15% cold resist after buff will prolly be fine for a shade

just watch out for hunters with sun spears and that inc 7 sec rear stun spear style
not that you'll see them when their camo is up until its too late :(
 

Kaun_IA

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mmmm... when i get my mincer done on alb.. gonna start useing cold weapons on NSs... couse u guys runn allmost 0 of it... get better results then whit heaters :p
 

Ivynoxia

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:eek6: eek, only those that don't use leg weps have almost 0 of it. bear that in mind :p
 

Elrandhir

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otherwise it looks okay, but resistwise it really stinks, would never use a temp with this low resists myself.

maby not the most important once, but cold >.< and no resist should be below 15 imo and if so I could go with Energy.
 

Neffneff

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leather is 10% resistant to cold.

so...0+10%+10% (CL sist) = 20% effective cold resist.
for heat, 25%+10%-15% = 20% effective heat...omg..would you believe it, swapping to cold leggies on a shade with 0% cold sists is STILL not worth it.

leather also 5% resistant to matter if i recall...so 6%+5%+10% = 21%..still better to use heater.

imo the 8%+10%=18% nrgy sist is enough for the rarity of sun weapon users.

HOWEVER!!! leather is 10% weak to crush..21%-10% = 11%....16% with CL shout...this is BAD!!! fix fix fix!!! you are gonna need capped crush AND the CL melee shout up as an elph to make it the same lvl of pain as a heater.
 

Ivynoxia

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*nods in agreement* :) good analysis intimate.

anyone tested if CL melee resist shout stack with the sun belt melee resist /use?
 

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Punishment said:
My 1.82 dl stopping for no reason every 2mb is just teh w00tw00tzorre ... Generic Win32 proccesses have encountered a problem and need to close ... 95% through a 2.6 mb file as part of 1.82 ... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr fucking naaab dialup :s

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Come into town on weekend and ill give you the patch then ¬.¬
Lousy 56k users going on a guilt trip :<
 

Elrandhir

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well you will have better resists if higher from start right?

All says I will have this high neways as etc etc and etc etc, but you will have better if higher from the beginning ofc, to low resists in any temp stinks, end of story tbh.

And not that hard making an okay temp with nice stats and okay resists also really ;D
 

Punishment

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Neffneff said:
leather is 10% resistant to cold.

so...0+10%+10% (CL sist) = 20% effective cold resist.
for heat, 25%+10%-15% = 20% effective heat...omg..would you believe it, swapping to cold leggies on a shade with 0% cold sists is STILL not worth it.

leather also 5% resistant to matter if i recall...so 6%+5%+10% = 21%..still better to use heater.

imo the 8%+10%=18% nrgy sist is enough for the rarity of sun weapon users.

HOWEVER!!! leather is 10% weak to crush..21%-10% = 11%....16% with CL shout...this is BAD!!! fix fix fix!!! you are gonna need capped crush AND the CL melee shout up as an elph to make it the same lvl of pain as a heater.

I know Neff m8 ive revised template for 18%+10% body as ill have remedy so ...

For 26% Baseline crush ... best an elph can achieve unfortunately ... sexyness makes up for this tho imo :p

And as for the cold sist or the lack of ... u are exactly in the same way of thinking as me ... heat lgms will still hurt as much as cold ... not gonna worry about energy too much tbh .

As for the passive 5% to all melee resists chant i was wrong ... its not on shade weapon , hero one afaik and afew others ...

All said taking into account my resists arent as big an issue as first thought ... its a good template imo ... nice offensive capabilities etc.

If i was playing for survivabilty id play my Hero :(
 

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Elrandhir said:
well you will have better resists if higher from start right?

All says I will have this high neways as etc etc and etc etc, but you will have better if higher from the beginning ofc, to low resists in any temp stinks, end of story tbh.

And not that hard making an okay temp with nice stats and okay resists also really ;D

I dont accept OK templates ... if u read the whole post u will see my resists are tbh acceptable ... the most effective way to hurt my shade with magic/elemental damage is still a heater ... so u can have 26% to all sists and an assasin who wants to do magic/elemtal damage to u will still use as heater to do same damage to u .

The difference between this PoV and ures is that u will still be taking the same damage as me ... but ill have 10/10/8 melee bonus malice/battler /use2 champ proc<once in a wet day> , 372 hp , 85 con , 365 dex buffed ... more than most bladeshades ... which all in all would see me do better in a fight 1v1 against an elemental weilder <Phear my logic>

P.S. I know a shade whose rr9 who doesnt believe in +cs/cd/blades and caps all his sists and also does quite well ... but imo shade is about breaking hearts and leaving a shitstorm within 10 seconds ... not hanging about to get added/ganked ... just my PoV :D
 

Elrandhir

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Punishment said:
I dont accept OK templates ... if u read the whole post u will see my resists are tbh acceptable ... the most effective way to hurt my shade with magic/elemental damage is still a heater ... so u can have 26% to all sists and an assasin who wants to do magic/elemtal damage to u will still use as heater to do same damage to u .

The difference between this PoV and ures is that u will still be taking the same damage as me ... but ill have 10/10/8 melee bonus malice/battler /use2 champ proc<once in a wet day> , 372 hp , 85 con , 365 dex buffed ... more than most bladeshades ... which all in all would see me do better in a fight 1v1 against an elemental weilder <Phear my logic>

P.S. I know a shade whose rr9 who doesnt believe in +cs/cd/blades and caps all his sists and also does quite well ... but imo shade is about breaking hearts and leaving a shitstorm within 10 seconds ... not hanging about to get added/ganked ... just my PoV :D

Not really as I havent done any shade temp, you just grab what you think from the air.

Bet it would be much better then this and if I cba making a Temp for a class I dident play >.< well I don't so i guess I wont be proveing you wrong.

And between I expect things like Melee adds and etc to be more or less MAX also, I don't really nerf anything for the resists in my Temps, you can get both good.
 

Neffneff

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Elrandhir said:
Not really as I havent done any shade temp, you just grab what you think from the air.

Bet it would be much better then this and if I cba making a Temp for a class I dident play >.< well I don't so i guess I wont be proveing you wrong.

And between I expect things like Melee adds and etc to be more or less MAX also, I don't really nerf anything for the resists in my Temps, you can get both good.

you don't know what you are talking about, untill you do i suggest you stop trying to force your un-experienced PoV on people who do, and drop the un-neccesary rudeness.
 

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Neffneff said:
you don't know what you are talking about, untill you do i suggest you stop trying to force your un-experienced PoV on people who do, and drop the un-neccesary rudeness.

Oh dear ... Intimate added again <3
 

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