Music Police nail their first suspects.

[Lazarus]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4318765.stm

 

[Cynical]

no, i will never be caught....NEVER!

 

[Rubber Bullets]

Well I guess it was bound to happen.

They have gone after some really big abusers, and they have kept the settlements at a rate, although a lot of money for most people, well below the insane amounts that the US equivalent have gone for. I guess we'd still all like something for nothing, but it ain't a right.

 

[Tom]

Anytime they have a problem with me downloading music, I'll point them in the direction of my very large collection of CDs, Vinyl and DVDs.

Besides, no mention of Bittorrent there.

 

[Bodhi]

And to think for ages I felt bad for not sharing any of my files on Kazaa etc. Why now I'm glad I clicked on the "I'm an atisocial **** and arent letting anyone have any of my mp3z!!!!" button.

 

[Whipped]

The BPI said the global campaign led to a 45% decline in activity on the most popular file-sharing network, Fast Track, which is used by Kazaa, since its peak in April 2003.

And the decline couldn't possibly be because most people may have switched to a new file sharing network

 

[Escape]

File sharing will just go deeper underground, it can't be stopped.


It's time for TV shows/films to start being distributed via torrents. Add some commercials and it should be profitable across an international network of millions. I hope the BBC will make programmes available for download, now that they're getting a make-over!(not soaps and crap, but the decent dramas and documentaries)

 

[Tom]

You can already get lots of UK tv shows over BT, from www.uknova.com

They have a rule, as soon as any programme is commercially available, they remove the torrent from their site.

 

[Jonty]

Hi guys

I've today been invited to apply for a placement at the MCPS-PRS Alliance (Mechanical-Copyright Protection Society & Performing Right Society) with regards music copyright issues. The Dark Side™ is calling me

Kind Regards

 

[yaruar]

quite right too, sue the file sharers ;-)

although i would say that as i work for a music technology company (and have access to more mp3's than any of you evah!)

 

[Mazling]

Sue the ILLEGAL file sharers ... which I will probably have to redefine for myself at this rate.

 

[Tom]

Jonty, can you ask them why they charge not much less for 128k bit rate tracks, and don't allow us to download fully uncompressed tracks?

Some of the iTunes songs I've downloaded sound absolutely awful, yet I can get the same songs from a p2p network, at 196kb or above!

 

[Jonty]

Hi Tom

Not that I'll probably end up with them, but I believe the bit rate started out as a technical issue which later turned into bit of a marketing ploy.

For Windows Media, a variable bit rate album can be about 2/3 larger than a standard 128Kbps album, and a lossless album can be around four times larger than that. In the beginning keeping the bit rate low may have been beneficial in terms of bandwidth and such, but now (if you're being cynical) it could be considered a ploy to keep enthusiasts buying physical copies of the songs (which cost more) to gain the better quality.

Mind you, like everything else, if there's enough demand the bit rate will go up. Again, if you're being cynical, the price rise Apple and others are planning could be justified by offering new incentives like higher quality songs.

Kind Regards

 

[Chilly]

I hope the BBC do start a torent like distribution of programmes, because as a lisense payer I could watch them legally if I wanted, timetable allowing, so why not be able to watch them at my leasure instead of at 9pm on tuesday or whatever. The problem comes when people start removing adverts from channel4 programs, which is then definately illegal and also immoral as opposed to sharing bbc prgrammes between existing lisense payers.

 

[Bodhi]

I hope the BBC do start a torent like distribution of programmes, because as a lisense payer I could watch them legally if I wanted, timetable allowing, so why not be able to watch them at my leasure instead of at 9pm on tuesday or whatever. The problem comes when people start removing adverts from channel4 programs, which is then definately illegal and also immoral as opposed to sharing bbc prgrammes between existing lisense payers.

How is it immoral to remove the adverts from commercial TV rips? The TV company gets paid for the advert whether people watch them or not.

 

[Tom]

ITV over the past few years suffered a bit of a crisis as advertising revenues dropped through the floor.

The value of such adverts is reduced if the advertisers perceive that nobody is watching them. Hence, they don't pay what the TV company wants.

I reckon this will be a big problem in future, if more people get Sky+ and Tivo type devices, they will all skip the adverts. Advertisers may demand that manufacturers implement measures to stop the consumer skipping their adverts, just like Disney do with their bloody DVDs.

 

[maxi]

Anytime they have a problem with me downloading music, I'll point them in the direction of my very large collection of CDs, Vinyl and DVDs.

Besides, no mention of Bittorrent there.

Their problem appears to be sharing, not downloading.

 

[Bodhi]

ITV over the past few years suffered a bit of a crisis as advertising revenues dropped through the floor.

The value of such adverts is reduced if the advertisers perceive that nobody is watching them. Hence, they don't pay what the TV company wants.

I reckon this will be a big problem in future, if more people get Sky+ and Tivo type devices, they will all skip the adverts. Advertisers may demand that manufacturers implement measures to stop the consumer skipping their adverts, just like Disney do with their bloody DVDs.

Yes, but do you not also notice the complete lack of anything worth watching on ITV1. Considering I've never seen a single ITV program on a Bittorrent site, i dont think they're losing many viewers through piracy. Just shit TV.

 

[yaruar]

Jonty, can you ask them why they charge not much less for 128k bit rate tracks, and don't allow us to download fully uncompressed tracks?

Some of the iTunes songs I've downloaded sound absolutely awful, yet I can get the same songs from a p2p network, at 196kb or above!

The compression rateis a bit of a ripoff really, i think the mp3 pricings will go down when bandwith goes up and more people demand higher compressions. Although personally i don't care as i have access to over 50k songs in .cbr format

 

[Tom]

Yes, but do you not also notice the complete lack of anything worth watching on ITV1. Considering I've never seen a single ITV program on a Bittorrent site, i dont think they're losing many viewers through piracy. Just shit TV.

Thats more down to the fact that ITV now consists of Granada and erm...Granada. A television enterprise that was started up to compete with the BBC, and to provide regional programming, is now closing down every studio it can, and handing out redundancies across the board, all in the name of profitability.

How ironic then, that the BBC should now begin moving its departments out of London, and taking up the reins of a regional broadcaster